Hypothetical West Coast Cruise

I'll take round trip San Francisco to anywhere.

There are already a few SF to Alaska and back
and SF to Mexico.

I would like to add....
One way San Francisco to Hawaii and around the islands.
One way Hawaii around the islands to San Francisco.

Round trip San Francisco round trip to Hawaii
(without a forced stop in Ensenada, Vancouver or Kiribati)

I would love 3 and 4 day cruises from San Francisco.
Wouldn't even need to stop at a port. Just take her
out to sea and back.

Does it show that San Francisco is my local cruise port?

Hey.... as long as we are not dealing in reality here,
howabout brining a ship to do round trips from
the local Half Moon Bay harbor? I would be willing
to tender out to meet the ship.

(I might even consider swimming.)

Mike


John Sisker wrote:
Here's a hypothetical for you, but if the current restrictions (laws)
were not in existence for at least a service call to a foreign port,
where would you like to cruise to/from on the West Coast? What do you
feel would make an ideal cruise?

Happy sailing...
John Sisker...

"Michael Akana" wrote in message
om...
I'll take round trip San Francisco to anywhere.


That triggered a thought...

How about (with 9:30 Tee times included):

Depart from San Francisco.
Day 1 Pebble Beach (Monterey, CA)
Day 2 At Sea
Day 3 Torrey Pines (San Diego, CA)
Day 4 At Sea
Day 5 Spyglass Hill (Monterey, CA)
Day 6 Bandon Dunes (Bandon, OR)
Day 7 back to San Francisco

--Tom

Michael,

Thanks for bringing this to my attention, and glad to see you included it in
the newsgroup as well. It is good to see that so many were willing to play
this game, even though it is a hypothetical.

John





"Michael Akana" wrote in message
om...
I'll take round trip San Francisco to anywhere.

There are already a few SF to Alaska and back
and SF to Mexico.

I would like to add.... One way San Francisco to Hawaii and around the
islands.
One way Hawaii around the islands to San Francisco.

Round trip San Francisco round trip to Hawaii
(without a forced stop in Ensenada, Vancouver or Kiribati)

I would love 3 and 4 day cruises from San Francisco.
Wouldn't even need to stop at a port. Just take her
out to sea and back.

Does it show that San Francisco is my local cruise port?

Hey.... as long as we are not dealing in reality here,
howabout brining a ship to do round trips from
the local Half Moon Bay harbor? I would be willing
to tender out to meet the ship.
(I might even consider swimming.)

Mike


John Sisker wrote:
Here's a hypothetical for you, but if the current restrictions (laws)
were not in existence for at least a service call to a foreign port, where
would you like to cruise to/from on the West Coast? What do you feel would
make an ideal cruise?

Happy sailing...
John Sisker...

On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:28:03 -0700, John Sisker wrote:

Michael,

Thanks for bringing this to my attention, and glad to see you included it in
the newsgroup as well. It is good to see that so many were willing to play
this game, even though it is a hypothetical.

John

"Michael Akana" wrote in message
om...
I'll take round trip San Francisco to anywhere.

There are already a few SF to Alaska and back
and SF to Mexico.

I would like to add.... One way San Francisco to Hawaii and around the
islands.
One way Hawaii around the islands to San Francisco.

Round trip San Francisco round trip to Hawaii
(without a forced stop in Ensenada, Vancouver or Kiribati)

I would love 3 and 4 day cruises from San Francisco.
Wouldn't even need to stop at a port. Just take her
out to sea and back.

Does it show that San Francisco is my local cruise port?

Hey.... as long as we are not dealing in reality here,
howabout brining a ship to do round trips from
the local Half Moon Bay harbor? I would be willing
to tender out to meet the ship.
(I might even consider swimming.)

Mike


John Sisker wrote:
Here's a hypothetical for you, but if the current restrictions (laws)
were not in existence for at least a service call to a foreign port, where
would you like to cruise to/from on the West Coast? What do you feel would
make an ideal cruise?

Happy sailing...
John Sisker...





But John, Kanita took time out from trolling to play and you didn't even
acknowledge him.

LOL
--
Think first! Before you book a cruise from a two bit lying sleazeball
who uses Usenet as free SPAMADVERTISING ground and for purposeful
attempts at personal character assassination. Are you next? Think twice
before booking with Ray Goldenberg. http://tr.im/hlJv

But John, Kanita took time out from trolling to play and you didn't even
acknowledge him.



So true Chrissy. Yet, when some have already shown their true colors, it is
almost like the boy who cried wolf... it is too late by then.

John

On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:14:04 -0700, Michael Akana
wrote:

I'll take round trip San Francisco to anywhere.

There are already a few SF to Alaska and back
and SF to Mexico.

I would like to add....
One way San Francisco to Hawaii and around the islands.
One way Hawaii around the islands to San Francisco.

Round trip San Francisco round trip to Hawaii
(without a forced stop in Ensenada, Vancouver or Kiribati)

It was mentioned the other day that this is OK under current law,
because it starts and ends in the same US port.

I think I've seen a round trip from either San Francisco or Los
Angeles.

Hey.... as long as we are not dealing in reality here,
howabout brining a ship to do round trips from
the local Half Moon Bay harbor?

How long do you have to brine a ship before the hull becomes tender?

On Mar 24, 5:57*pm, Jack Hamilton wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:14:04 -0700, Michael Akana

wrote:
I'll take round trip San Francisco *to anywhere.

There are already a few SF to Alaska and back
and SF to Mexico.

I would like to add....
One way San Francisco to Hawaii and around the islands.
One way Hawaii around the islands to San Francisco.

Round trip San Francisco round trip to Hawaii
(without a forced stop in Ensenada, Vancouver or Kiribati)

It was mentioned the other day that this is OK under current law,
because it starts and ends in the same US port.

I think I've seen a round trip from either San Francisco or Los
Angeles.

Jack - Round trip from a US port still requires a foreign port of call
if there are ANY stops (cruises to nowhere are OK).

If the voyage is between different US ports, the PSA requires a "far"
foreign port -- not in North America, Central America or Caribbean.
(The ABC islands of Aruba, Bonaire and Curacao are considered part of
South America and thus qualify)

So, as Ray realized after his first cup of coffee, most of the
itineraries in this hypothetical discussion violate the current
regulations.

Mark

On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:52:37 -0700 (PDT), "Mark (SF)"
wrote:

On Mar 24, 5:57*pm, Jack Hamilton wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:14:04 -0700, Michael Akana

wrote:
I'll take round trip San Francisco *to anywhere.

There are already a few SF to Alaska and back
and SF to Mexico.

I would like to add....
One way San Francisco to Hawaii and around the islands.
One way Hawaii around the islands to San Francisco.

Round trip San Francisco round trip to Hawaii
(without a forced stop in Ensenada, Vancouver or Kiribati)

It was mentioned the other day that this is OK under current law,
because it starts and ends in the same US port.

I think I've seen a round trip from either San Francisco or Los
Angeles.

Jack - Round trip from a US port still requires a foreign port of call
if there are ANY stops (cruises to nowhere are OK).

If the voyage is between different US ports, the PSA requires a "far"
foreign port -- not in North America, Central America or Caribbean.
(The ABC islands of Aruba, Bonaire and Curacao are considered part of
South America and thus qualify)

So a round trip to Hawaii from Los Angeles, with a one hour stop in
Ensenada in the middle of the night, would be OK?

On Mar 26, 9:14*am, Jack Hamilton wrote:

So a round trip to Hawaii from Los Angeles, with a one hour stop in
Ensenada in the middle of the night, would be OK?

Yes, currently - and I believe HAL has offered that itinerary
regularly
(I seem to recall threats to stop these convenience calls about a year
ago - likely after pressure from a certain Hawaiian Senator who gets
lots of donations from NCL)

On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:07:02 -0700 (PDT), "Mark (SF)"
wrote:

On Mar 26, 9:14*am, Jack Hamilton wrote:

So a round trip to Hawaii from Los Angeles, with a one hour stop in
Ensenada in the middle of the night, would be OK?

Yes, currently - and I believe HAL has offered that itinerary
regularly
(I seem to recall threats to stop these convenience calls about a year
ago - likely after pressure from a certain Hawaiian Senator who gets
lots of donations from NCL)

I wonder if NCL lost its influence after it pulled two thirds of its
ships from the Hawaii market.