Cruises - Passports ?!?!

I am a newly naturalized US Citizen and applied for my US Passport
last week. I don't expect an air trip outside of the Western
Hemisphere any time soon. However, I was thinking about a cruise and
was wondering if anyone has insight into what documentation is
required by the cruiseline when leaving and CBP when arriving back in
the US.

Would the above requirements be similar to travel by land to Canada?
I am a Canadian Citizen as well and I have that passport in my
possession.

Is driver's licence and a copy of my pending application receipt
(which I am still waiting for) sufficient to cross to Canada as well
as to sail to the Caribbean as it is to fly?

Any thoughts would be helpful!

On Jun 20, 12:42 pm, J wrote:
I am a newly naturalized US Citizen and applied for my US Passport
last week.

If you can wait for your cruise until your passport shows up, then do
that. It'll just be easier. In the meantime, I recommend you take a
look at past threads on this topic, right here on rec.travel.cruises.
There have been several, over the last week or two - including threads
that explain the latest requirements for cruise travel, which have
been modified recently, because of the backlog of passport
applications currently in house.

You say that you still hold a Canadian passport. Any reason you can't
travel on that? I don't know the ins and outs of dual citizenship, but
if you still have a current Canadian passport, do you really need the
U.S. one to travel out of the country?

Lee

LeeNY wrote:
On Jun 20, 12:42 pm, J wrote:
I am a newly naturalized US Citizen and applied for my US Passport
last week.

If you can wait for your cruise until your passport shows up, then do
that. It'll just be easier. In the meantime, I recommend you take a
look at past threads on this topic, right here on rec.travel.cruises.
There have been several, over the last week or two - including threads
that explain the latest requirements for cruise travel, which have
been modified recently, because of the backlog of passport
applications currently in house.

You say that you still hold a Canadian passport. Any reason you can't
travel on that? I don't know the ins and outs of dual citizenship, but
if you still have a current Canadian passport, do you really need the
U.S. one to travel out of the country?

Lee


The rule is if you are a Dual Citizen between Canada and the USA you
have to declare you US citizenship when entering the USA and your
Canadian Citizenship when entering Canada UNLESS you have given up one.

When entering the USA and being a USA citizen if you do not declare that
you are a US citizen then you are subject to a immediate $500 fine.

I have triple citizenship (don't ask) and 2 of them are Canada and the
USA. I have leaned the rules the hard way so to speak.

Also note the Passport Rule for January 1 2008 has now been relaxed till
July 1 2008 as of today because of the backlog.

Phil

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In article .com,
wrote:

Is driver's licence and a copy of my pending application receipt
(which I am still waiting for) sufficient to cross to Canada as well
as to sail to the Caribbean as it is to fly?

You can only use a receipt of pending application to fly to the
Caribbean. You can't use it to sail.

--
Charles

Charles wrote:
In article .com,
wrote:

Is driver's licence and a copy of my pending application receipt
(which I am still waiting for) sufficient to cross to Canada as well
as to sail to the Caribbean as it is to fly?

You can only use a receipt of pending application to fly to the
Caribbean. You can't use it to sail.

Which makes no sense at all! We sent our passports in for renewal and do
not have acceptable birth certificates. I know I can get new birth
certificates from vitalcheck.com, but that is going to be $20.50/person.
Those of us who are cruising should also be allowed to use the receipt
of pending application just like those who are flying.

sue

Sue and Kevin Mullen wrote:

Those of us who are cruising should also be allowed to use the receipt
of pending application just like those who are flying.

Definitely. I suspect this is a situation that the braintrust in
Washington never thought of. Perhaps you should complain to your
congressperson and see if they can get something changed.
They're not going to realize that there is a problem until they
hear about it.

Bill

On Jun 20, 5:34 pm, Phil wrote:
LeeNY wrote:
On Jun 20, 12:42 pm, J wrote:
I am a newly naturalized US Citizen and applied for my US Passport
last week.

If you can wait for your cruise until your passport shows up, then do
that. It'll just be easier. In the meantime, I recommend you take a
look at past threads on this topic, right here on rec.travel.cruises.
There have been several, over the last week or two - including threads
that explain the latest requirements for cruise travel, which have
been modified recently, because of the backlog of passport
applications currently in house.

You say that you still hold a Canadian passport. Any reason you can't
travel on that? I don't know the ins and outs of dual citizenship, but
if you still have a current Canadian passport, do you really need the
U.S. one to travel out of the country?

Lee

The rule is if you are a Dual Citizen between Canada and the USA you
have to declare you US citizenship when entering the USA and your
Canadian Citizenship when entering Canada UNLESS you have given up one.

When entering the USA and being a USA citizen if you do not declare that
you are a US citizen then you are subject to a immediate $500 fine.

I have triple citizenship (don't ask) and 2 of them are Canada and the
USA. I have leaned the rules the hard way so to speak.

Canada seems to be a bit more stringent on this requirement if you are
entering Canada to live, work, study, or anything else that a non-
Canadian citizen cannot normally do. Plus, Canada doesn't seem to
have a problem with a dual Canadian travelling to Canada with a non-
Canadian passport as long as he can also present proof of his Canadian
citizenship along with it, such as a certificate of Canadian
citizenship.

The US, on the other hand, always wants a US citizen to show a US
passport, and not a foreign passport.

Bill wrote:

Sue and Kevin Mullen wrote:

Those of us who are cruising should also be allowed to use the receipt
of pending application just like those who are flying.

Definitely. I suspect this is a situation that the braintrust in
Washington never thought of. Perhaps you should complain to your
congressperson and see if they can get something changed.
They're not going to realize that there is a problem until they
hear about it.

Right now it is "only" 8 weeks since we sent our passports to be renewed
and a little over 10 weeks untill cruise day. I think we will get our
passports back in time, but if the time gets too close without them,
then I will be in touch with our TA and the crusise line.

sue

Is driver's licence and a copy of my pending application receipt
(which I am still waiting for) sufficient to cross to Canada as well
as to sail to the Caribbean as it is to fly?

You can only use a receipt of pending application to fly to the
Caribbean. You can't use it to sail.

Of course, you don't need a passport to sail, yet. The passport
requirement is only in effect for AIR travel. People sailing to the
Caribbean can still enter the US using their birth certificates with a
photo ID, or a naturalization certificate.

So, for people who have not yet applied for a passport, or who have
applied for a renewal passport (where they don't have to send in proof
of citizenship), they don't have to worry. The people who may have a
problem are those who have applied for their first passport, and who
do not have proof of citizenship in their possession because it was
submitted with their application.

wrote:

So, for people who have not yet applied for a passport, or who have
applied for a renewal passport (where they don't have to send in proof
of citizenship), they don't have to worry.

My passport has been my proof of citizenship for the past 9ish years,
but I had to send it in to get it renewed. So people who have sent for a
renewal do have to worry about what to use!!

sue