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How to pack light, some tips
"Magda" wrote in message ... On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:24:56 -0400, in rec.travel.europe, "Rog'" arranged some electrons, so they looked like this: ... Any ideas (for my wife) on how to pack for these limits: ... US-Europe... 23kg (50lbs) ea. (2 allowed); ... Inside Europe... a total of 20 kg (44 lbs); and ... Inside Greece... a total of 15lkg. (33lbs.).... ... plus a carry-on. ... I said, pack for the least weight allowed, which went ... over like a lead-balloon. =R= Let her pack as much as she wants and cope *all alone* with the consequences (carry the load herself, pay the penalties from her pocket, etc.). It will teach her a lesson in common sense. You don't understand: for MOST of us married people, our finances are COMBINED...when we married we COMBINED our fortunes, as it were. So it makes NO difference whose wallet the overweight fees comes out of...the source is the same. |
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"Alan S" wrote in message ... On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 04:41:34 -0000, wrote: A better idea is to copy just the pages that one wants That's a good alternative, especially if you only need a few pages. James It seems a little wrong to chop down an extra forest rather Chop down an extra FOREST? Give me a ****ING break, dipwad. than just cut out and carry the bits I want. To each their own. Cheers, Alan, Australia -- http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/ latest: Slovenia http://loraltraveloz.blogspot.com/ latest: Mossman Gorge in the Daintree Rainforest |
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"sharx35" wrote:
You don't understand: for MOST of us married people, our finances are COMBINED...when we married, we COMBINED our fortunes, as it were. So it makes NO difference whose wallet the overweight fees comes out of...the source is the same. A few years ago, my wife and I were in a shop in Brussels, and she arrived at the counter with her hands full. At that point, I pulled out a CC, handed it to the shopkeeper and said, "My job is to pay." He nodded and replied, "As it is of husbands, everywhere." |
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tim..... wrote:
[..] At a hotel I was in last week "Guests are not allowed to wash clothes in this bathroom" I guess that she was fed up with people like you. In that case that this would be a problem I'd simply change the accommodation. If somebody feels fed up because I wash my underwear & socks while I'm in the shower I'd not see this as my problem ... Underwear weighs almost nothing! But it is useless ... why should I carry more than 1 clean? While I use the clean one the other one gets dry ... Manfred |
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"Rog'" wrote in message ... "sharx35" wrote: You don't understand: for MOST of us married people, our finances are COMBINED...when we married, we COMBINED our fortunes, as it were. So it makes NO difference whose wallet the overweight fees comes out of...the source is the same. A few years ago, my wife and I were in a shop in Brussels, and she arrived at the counter with her hands full. At that point, I pulled out a CC, handed it to the shopkeeper and said, "My job is to pay." He nodded and replied, "As it is of husbands, everywhere." Ah, it works both ways. All our funds, except for RRSPs (Canadian equivalent of IRAs--law requires that they be in ONE person's name) are in JOINT NAMES. When the 1st person dies, ownership, o fnon-RRSP property, including real estate or investments, reverts to the survivor with NO taxes having to be paid until the death of the surviving spouse. |
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Alan S wrote:
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 07:24:27 -0700, [..] I did 11000km through Europe in 9 weeks by car on the 2003 trip; And you are proud of that? I might have lasted the first 1000 on a bike but I suspect my wife would have quit at the 500 mark if she had started at all:-) You would have seen much more interesting things on your first 100km on bike ... do you really think your trip gets more valuable the more km you do? The ride from Brisbane to Singapore would have been fun. Pedalo? Definitely! ... At least in Indonesia it is absolutely no problem to take your bike on a bus ... Manfred |
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:41:36 +0200, Manfred Aigner
wrote: Alan S wrote: On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 07:24:27 -0700, [..] I did 11000km through Europe in 9 weeks by car on the 2003 trip; And you are proud of that? Proud? Odd concept for travel. We enjoyed it, which is more important to me. We obviously enjoy different things. That doesn't make either of us wrong or right. And you are critical of that? I might have lasted the first 1000 on a bike but I suspect my wife would have quit at the 500 mark if she had started at all:-) You would have seen much more interesting things on your first 100km on bike Would I? Your opinion, not mine. Mostly we took back roads. Some places we drove fast, some slow, some we walked a lot. Some we places we stayed a week, some an hour. 11000km in 9 weeks is only an average of 175km per day, or 2-3 leisurely hours drive. Not exactly flashing by the countryside. We never felt rushed, we set our own pace. ... do you really think your trip gets more valuable the more km you do? Valuable? Another odd concept for travel. No, it was neither more nor less valuable. Nor was it more valuable because we went 35000 flying miles around the world. It just happened that those flights were necessary to see Europe and the USA from here in a reasonable timescale. More costly, yes, but not more valuable. You seem to feel that all travelers should share your concepts of pride and value. The ride from Brisbane to Singapore would have been fun. Pedalo? Definitely! ... At least in Indonesia it is absolutely no problem to take your bike on a bus ... But difficult to pedal across the Timor Sea...or from my place to Darwin. Manfred Cheers, Alan, Australia -- http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/ latest: Slovenia http://loraltraveloz.blogspot.com/ latest: Mossman Gorge in the Daintree Rainforest |
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"Chris Blunt" kirjoitti om... On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:58:18 +0300, Markku Grönroos wrote: "Spehro Pefhany" kirjoitti viestissä:nl3jc3pki22123egcss1f7vrbitem9vb0v@4ax .com... I carry a small bottle of shampoo, because I don't like the free stuff. Maybe 200ml, which could last for several weeks. Not having a mobile phone seems silly. Why? When travelling on holiday, you need a phone. I don't need one. I find a phone to keep in touch with people even more useful when I'm traveling than it is at home. It also serves as a camera, an alarm clock, a GPS, and a way to check my emails. Something so compact that does all that and only weighs around 100g easily justifies being taken along on any trips I make. Fortunately I don't have to be available for other people at work by phone. Actually I seldom carry a phone when I am out of home. When I am back I just check the calls. If wandering in wilderness, a phone may be a good piece in security terms, but on the other hand I have never went deep in to wild vistas all my own. |
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"Spehro Pefhany" kirjoitti om... You never visit anyone when you're on holiday? Not too often so that arrangements should be done by phone. You don't have anyone depending on you back home? No. And even if I had, I don't see why I should carry a phone along. You don't need to make reservations at a restaurant when you're travelling? I have never done so. You don't ever trip a credit card security flag and have to call? It has happened to me that the vendor (typically a car renter) has not been able to make a credit card provision at first. Anyways they have always had a phone in the office. Any single one of those makes carrying a modern GSM phone well worth it, assuming you're mostly travelling where they will work. I have arranged my travels so that there is little need to be instantly available. When I want to be in touch to outside world I lease a computer for a moment to send and receive mail. Sometimes it can be beneficial to book for mass transportation in advance by phone but I leave this to the hotel personnel. That's why they are there in the first place (typically the language barrier hinders me to contact the agent anyways). |
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Alan S wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:41:36 +0200, Manfred Aigner wrote: Alan S wrote: On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 07:24:27 -0700, [..] I did 11000km through Europe in 9 weeks by car on the 2003 trip; And you are proud of that? Proud? Odd concept for travel. We enjoyed it, which is more important to me. We obviously enjoy different things. That doesn't make either of us wrong or right. Yes we do! And it is not a question of wrong or right! And you are critical of that? No, as long as I do not need to join ;-) .. would be probably as hard for me to sit 200km in a car as it would be for you to join me on a biketour ... [..] You would have seen much more interesting things on your first 100km on bike Would I? Your opinion, not mine. Yes, I'm sure about that. Traveling by car or motorbike is too fast. Walking or traveling on bike gives you the chance to observe the environment and get a feeling about the landscape. Arriving to any place after some physical exercise is a much better experience that getting off a car. I'd compare it with climbing a mountain or reaching the top with a cable car. You're by both ways on the top, but the experience is a completely different one ... Mostly we took back roads. Some places we drove fast, some slow, some we walked a lot. Some we places we stayed a week, some an hour. 11000km in 9 weeks is only an average of 175km per day, or 2-3 leisurely hours drive. Not exactly flashing by the countryside. We never felt rushed, we set our own pace. You do 175km mostly on back roads a day? In 2-3 hours? That is an average of 175/2.5 70km, which is really a lot on back roads ... I'dnot enjoy ... ... do you really think your trip gets more valuable the more km you do? Valuable? Another odd concept for travel. Really? Odder than measuring km/days? Off course is a good trip valuable, as a weekend at home and lazy Sunday in bad can be .. No, it was neither more nor less valuable. Nor was it more valuable because we went 35000 flying miles around the world. It just happened that those flights were necessary to see Europe and the USA from here in a reasonable timescale. Ah, that is the problem. You try to bunch as many countries as possible into a limited time frame ... well, if you enjoy that ;-) More costly, yes, but not more valuable. there are other values than costs in $$ .. but well ... You seem to feel that all travelers should share your concepts of pride and value. No, please not ;-), but I simply do not understand what could be the nice thing of rushing through a country, stopping by in a tourist trap and looking out for the next hotel sign The ride from Brisbane to Singapore would have been fun. Pedalo? Definitely! ... At least in Indonesia it is absolutely no problem to take your bike on a bus ... But difficult to pedal across the Timor Sea...or from my place to Darwin. Well, this is probably as difficult as with a car! But once you mastered Darwin-Kupang you would not have any problem with Kupang-Larantuka, Labuhanbajo-Sumbawa etc. :-) |
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