ID at check-in

On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 23:24:28 -0500, AZ Nomad
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 21:14:43 -0700, MI wrote:



On 10/2/08 9:06 PM, in article
, "AZ Nomad"
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 23:50:58 -0400, pltrgyst
wrote:

I've never had an airline copy information from my driver's license, or ask
for
it when selling me a ticket or issuing a boarding pass. And that includes
United
and Southwest among them.

Checking ID before issueing a boarding pass is universal.
That includes all the airlines.

That is true, but they just look at it. They don't record it nor should
they. A passport is used to identify someone. Not even immigration officers
record it when you enter a country. They look at it and stamp it. Period.

I never said they record it.

I was taking exception to pltrgyst's statement that they don't even ask for it
when selling a ticket or issueing a boarding pass.

They have always asked for my passport when getting a boarding
pass for a foreign country. Even before 9/11. They wanted to make
sure you had one that was current so they, the airline, wouldn't
have to bring you right back from a country that required a
passport.

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On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 21:14:43 -0700, MI wrote:




On 10/2/08 9:06 PM, in article
, "AZ Nomad"
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 23:50:58 -0400, pltrgyst
wrote:

I've never had an airline copy information from my driver's license, or ask
for
it when selling me a ticket or issuing a boarding pass. And that includes
United
and Southwest among them.

Checking ID before issueing a boarding pass is universal.
That includes all the airlines.

That is true, but they just look at it. They don't record it nor should
they. A passport is used to identify someone. Not even immigration officers
record it when you enter a country. They look at it and stamp it. Period.

US Immigration (and many other countries) often swipe the passport
through a reader. That records all the info they need.

In message "Cari"
was claimed to have wrote:

It's not an invasion of privacy if it saves your life.

Something can still be an invasion of privacy if it saves your life.
Weighing which is more important is an individual preference.

"Marsha" wrote in message ...
Patrick Hernan wrote:
I stayed at a major hotel in Las Vegas recently. At check-in they wanted
a credit card and picture ID. I gave them a credit card and my driver's
license as an ID. Before I knew it she entered my driver's license number
into the hotel computer. This has never happened to me before. When I
objected she said "everybody does it now" but that is certainly not my
experience. This really seems like an invasion of privacy in the time of
identity theft. I can only imagine how many employees have access to that
computer. Even when I travel abroad hotel clerks usually don't take down
my passport number. As an American traveling in America this seems
outrageous. Has anyone else had a similar experience?

I've stayed in probably 12 different hotels in the last year, some as
recently as two weeks ago, and not a single one of them asked for picture
ID. I would have refused to give it to them anyway. If they insisted, I
would have held onto it while they looked at it, but never would have
given it to them.

Marsha/Ohio


And if your credit card was stolen and used youd be the first one to
complain that no one asked for ID when the purchases were made!!

"MI" wrote in message
...



On 10/2/08 9:06 PM, in article
, "AZ Nomad"
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 23:50:58 -0400, pltrgyst
wrote:

I've never had an airline copy information from my driver's license, or
ask
for
it when selling me a ticket or issuing a boarding pass. And that
includes
United
and Southwest among them.

Checking ID before issueing a boarding pass is universal.
That includes all the airlines.

That is true, but they just look at it. They don't record it nor should
they. A passport is used to identify someone. Not even immigration
officers
record it when you enter a country. They look at it and stamp it. Period.
--
Martha Canada

I think you'll find they DO record your passport details when you enter
another country! its swiped through their machine and records your entry!
Bieng a regular traveller around the world from the UK, the last time i went
to the US immigration told me exactly how many times id been to the USA in
the lastt 12 months when i was routinely questioned!

On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:38:40 -0700, Patrick Hernan
wrote:



I stayed at a major hotel in Las Vegas recently. At check-in they wanted
a credit card and picture ID. I gave them a credit card and my driver's
license as an ID. Before I knew it she entered my driver's license
number into the hotel computer. This has never happened to me before.
When I objected she said "everybody does it now" but that is certainly
not my experience. This really seems like an invasion of privacy in the
time of identity theft. I can only imagine how many employees have
access to that computer. Even when I travel abroad hotel clerks usually
don't take down my passport number. As an American traveling in America
this seems outrageous. Has anyone else had a similar experience?

My experience--I stay in motels like Comfort, Quality, Days, Ramada,
Holiday, etc. around 80-100 nights a year--is that this practice is
far more common in the west (west of a vague line somewhere from the
Missouri River to the Rockies) than it is east of there. In the east,
it is most common in military base towns, and college/university
towns. The prevalence of this requirement is clearly spreading to
more and more places.

Most motels don't note the details of the ID, just inspect it and
return it. Personally, I never use a driver's license as the picture
ID. Illinois (and most if not all states) also issues a picture ID
card, with ID requirements the same as for a DL, it just doesn't grant
the privilege of driving. I always use that card.

"MI" wrote in message
...



On 10/2/08 9:06 PM, in article
, "AZ Nomad"
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 23:50:58 -0400, pltrgyst
wrote:

I've never had an airline copy information from my driver's license, or
ask
for
it when selling me a ticket or issuing a boarding pass. And that
includes
United
and Southwest among them.

Checking ID before issueing a boarding pass is universal.
That includes all the airlines.

That is true, but they just look at it. They don't record it nor should
they. A passport is used to identify someone. Not even immigration
officers
record it when you enter a country. They look at it and stamp it. Period.

Wrong. Your passport is scanned into the computer. When Customs scans your
passport, your entire history comes up for them.

On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 05:10:05 GMT, (Graz) wrote:

On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 21:14:43 -0700, MI wrote:




On 10/2/08 9:06 PM, in article
, "AZ Nomad"
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 23:50:58 -0400, pltrgyst
wrote:

I've never had an airline copy information from my driver's license, or ask
for
it when selling me a ticket or issuing a boarding pass. And that includes
United
and Southwest among them.

Checking ID before issueing a boarding pass is universal.
That includes all the airlines.

That is true, but they just look at it. They don't record it nor should
they. A passport is used to identify someone. Not even immigration officers
record it when you enter a country. They look at it and stamp it. Period.

US Immigration (and many other countries) often swipe the passport
through a reader. That records all the info they need.

Although not yet absolutely required, we use our passports to
re-enter the USA from Mexico. They always get swiped. Through the
reader, that is.

--
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* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *

On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 10:04:24 +0100, "topof"
wrote:

And if your credit card was stolen and used youd be the first one to
complain that no one asked for ID when the purchases were made!!

Nonsense. When an American credit card is stolen you, the
cardholder , are not responsible for any charges run up by the
thief.

My wallet got lifted on the Paris Metro ten years ago. The
thieves used my credit card to run up about $600 in purchases,
but I was not responsible for any of it.

--
************* DAVE HATUNEN ) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *

"Cari" wrote in message
...

"Patrick Hernan" wrote in message
...


I stayed at a major hotel in Las Vegas recently. At check-in they wanted
a credit card and picture ID. I gave them a credit card and my driver's
license as an ID. Before I knew it she entered my driver's license number
into the hotel computer. This has never happened to me before. When I
objected she said "everybody does it now" but that is certainly not my
experience. This really seems like an invasion of privacy in the time of
identity theft. I can only imagine how many employees have access to that
computer. Even when I travel abroad hotel clerks usually don't take down
my passport number. As an American traveling in America this seems
outrageous. Has anyone else had a similar experience?

Fairly standard in Las Vegas as the occupant of the room MUST be 21 or
over and the way to identify this in the USA is by drivers licence.
Foreign visitors must hand over their passport and have those details
entered in the computers. If you refmember back to 9.11, Mohammed Atta
and his fellow terrorists briefly stayed in Vegas a few months before the
attack, unfortunately the motel's photocopies was 'not working' at the
time and no details were recorded. If they had been, things might have
been very different.

It's not an invasion of privacy if it saves your life.

Whilst I for one don't give a damn about the hotel entering my passport
number into their computer, I can't see a single possible way in which doing
so can lead to my life being saved. (Please stop regurgitating unfounded
Government spin!)

tim