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Driver Licensing not about highway safety
"Alohacyberian" wrote:
"proffsl" wrote: "Alohacyberian" wrote: Operation of motor vehicles isn't a "right". The operation of a motor vehicle on public highways is a Right, that is being circumvented by a police power requiring Licensing. It isn't the police who require driver licenses; Your phrase above shows no understanding of a police power at all. Foremost, police powers aren't "who"s, but instead they are "what"s. they are only enforcing the laws they don't make. Police powers do not refer to police. Police powers do not enforce anything. You need to study up on how laws are enacted and for what reason, Ad Hominem Directives issued by the same person who wrote the above. Amazing! It would be much easier for you to study your local driver license manual and try to pass the test this time rather than go on the Usenet and plea for laws to be changed for those who flunk the tests. More Ad Hominems by someone who seems only to exercise their imagined psychic powers as a means of generating baseless personal attacks. |
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Driver Licensing is all about highway safety
On Oct 21, 9:36 am, proffsl wrote:
"Alohacyberian" wrote: "proffsl" wrote: "Alohacyberian" wrote: Operation of motor vehicles isn't a "right". The operation of a motor vehicle on public highways is a Right, Sorry, you don't know the legal meaning of a "right". Baseless Ad Hominem. "The Idaho Supreme Court, however, has held that the right to operate a motor vehicle on public highways is a matter of constitutional dimension. In Adams v. City of Pocatello , 91 Idaho 99, 101, 416 P.2d 46, 48 (1966), the Court declared that the right to drive "is a right or liberty, the enjoyment of which is protected by the guarantees of the federal and state constitutions. Consequently, the courts of this state must regard the right to drive a motor vehicle on public highways as constitutionally protected." - State of Idaho v. Mark Wilder (2003) -http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data2/idahostatecases/app/1033/wilder.pdf This case UPHELD licensing -- Wilder's conviction stood. It was not overturned. Yet you keep presenting this case as though it supports you. It does not. It support us. You left out the part of the ruling, as you always do, that included licensing as part of the exercise of the right to travel by auto. Wilder violated that and this case you cite UPHELD his conviction for not having a license. How can you carry on in such an embarrassing manner knowing this? All yor cites are belong to us. |
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Driver Licensing is all about highway safety
On Oct 21, 10:52 am, proffsl wrote:
"Alohacyberian" wrote: It would be much easier for you to study your local driver license manual and try to pass the test this time rather than go on the Usenet and plea for laws to be changed for those who flunk the tests. More Ad Hominems by someone who seems only to exercise their imagined psychic powers as a means of generating baseless personal attacks. You are the one who initiates personal attacks. You also exercise your imagined psychic powers to try to rewrite your cites, which contradict you, or to fabricate them completely as you did in last year's version of your doomed argument. |
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Driver Licensing not about highway safety
"proffsl" wrote in message
oups.com... "Alohacyberian" wrote: "proffsl" wrote: "Alohacyberian" wrote: Operation of motor vehicles isn't a "right". The operation of a motor vehicle on public highways is a Right, Sorry, you don't know the legal meaning of a "right". Baseless Ad Hominem. My response is not baseless and has nothing to do with ad hominem (which apparently is another definition which escapes you). Getting a driver license is not a "right" in the legal sense of the word. Period. If you think it's a right, then you don't know the legal meaning of the word, which is probably why you never say anything new, but, can only repeat yourself ad nauseam. Which is also probably why you stated, "Baseless Ad Hominem," because you are unable to refute the statement. Nevertheless over this period of time, I'm sure you can count the number of people whom you've persuaded to your views. LOL! KM -- (-:alohacyberian:-) At my website view over 3,600 live cameras or visit NASA, the Vatican, the Smithsonian, the Louvre, CIA, FBI, and NBA, the White House, Academy Awards, 150 language translators! Visit Hawaii, Israel and more at: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/ |
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Driver Licensing not about highway safety
"proffsl" wrote in message
ups.com... "Alohacyberian" wrote: "proffsl" wrote: "Alohacyberian" wrote: Operation of motor vehicles isn't a "right". The operation of a motor vehicle on public highways is a Right, that is being circumvented by a police power requiring Licensing. It isn't the police who require driver licenses; Your phrase above shows no understanding of a police power at all. "Police power" isn't relevant to my statement above. Police don't make the laws, no do they, as policemen require anything; they merely enforce the requirements set by lawmakers. Pretty simple, huh? KM -- (-:alohacyberian:-) At my website view over 3,600 live cameras or visit NASA, the Vatican, the Smithsonian, the Louvre, CIA, FBI, and NBA, the White House, Academy Awards, 150 language translators! Visit Hawaii, Israel and more at: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/ |
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Driver Licensing not about highway safety
On Oct 5, 3:09 pm, "Alohacyberian" wrote:
"Dave Smith" wrote in message ... Alohacyberian wrote: Maybe someone told him if he keeps posting the same rant, eventually he'll win a driver license. ;-) KM Yeah, that about sums it up. He apparently has some sort of issue with the driver examination process in his jurisdiction and thinks that bringing up the same flawed logic and non-supporting evidence is going to get him behind a steering wheel. If his driving skills are the same as his illogic, it's best he doesn't get a driver license. KM -- (-:alohacyberian:-) At my website view over 3,600 live cameras or visit NASA, the Vatican, the Smithsonian, the Louvre, CIA, FBI, and NBA, the White House, Academy Awards, 150 language translators! Visit Hawaii, Israel and more at: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/ Have you gotten your license back since your drunk driving convictions? You know, the ones you talked about in the AA newsgroup? "I too was court ordered to attend AA meetings" KM |
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TrollAIDS Forges On!
"alohacyberian" wrote in message
oups.com... On Oct 5, 3:09 pm, "Alohacyberian" wrote: E B Yawn KM -- (-:alohacyberian:-) At my website view over 3,600 live cameras or visit NASA, the Vatican, the Smithsonian, the Louvre, CIA, FBI, and NBA, the White House, Academy Awards, 150 language translators! Visit Hawaii, Israel and more at: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/ |
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TrollAIDS Forges On!
"Alohacyberian" wrote in message ... "alohacyberian" wrote in message oups.com... On Oct 5, 3:09 pm, "Alohacyberian" wrote: E B Yawn KM Yet another prime example of Keith's employment before us all of the Keith Martin of non sequiturs, red herrings, and ad hominems. And he continues the KM2 of ignoring issues/questions addressed to him, as per my question to him: "Do you agree that a maker of a statement is accountable for that statement? A simple 'yes' or 'no' from you will suffice." and my challenging him to back his statement that Hilo has no more rain than in the UK. I daresay that one can perceive the truthfulness, honesty, and reliability of Keith's statements in his persistent ducking of issues/questions directed at him. And do note the total lack of substantiation on his part, particularly when challenged. Still, he for the time being has eschewed the Alvin Toda of crawling back under that rock of his and - as per my accountability question - that six year old kid's taunt of his: "Yes or no. KM." Bottom line, Keith ducks even basic, fundamental, straightforward questions/issues as he babbles on and on as in his post here. Quack, quack! |
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Driver Licensing not about highway safety
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proffsl wrote: "Alohacyberian" wrote: "proffsl" wrote: "Alohacyberian" wrote: Operation of motor vehicles isn't a "right". The operation of a motor vehicle on public highways is a Right, Sorry, you don't know the legal meaning of a "right". Baseless Ad Hominem. "The Idaho Supreme Court, however, has held that the right to operate a motor vehicle on public highways is a matter of constitutional dimension. In Adams v. City of Pocatello , 91 Idaho 99, 101, 416 P.2d 46, 48 (1966), the Court declared that the right to drive "is a right or liberty, the enjoyment of which is protected by the guarantees of the federal and state constitutions. Consequently, the courts of this state must regard the right to drive a motor vehicle on public highways as constitutionally protected." - State of Idaho v. Mark Wilder (2003) -http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data2/idahostatecases/app/1033/wilder.pdf You left out the part of the ruling, as you always do, that included licensing as part of the exercise of the right to travel by auto. Licensing is not a part of our Right to operate a motor vehicle on public highways. Licensing is a part of the police power being unreasonably imposed upon our Right to operate a motor vehicle on public highways. |
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Driver Licensing Not about highway safety
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proffsl wrote: "Alohacyberian" wrote: It would be much easier for you to study your local driver license manual and try to pass the test this time rather than go on the Usenet and plea for laws to be changed for those who flunk the tests. More Ad Hominems by someone who seems only to exercise their imagined psychic powers as a means of generating baseless personal attacks. You are the one who initiates personal attacks. You are lying. |
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