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"Canada" The Deserters Choice
"gman99" wrote in message ... "Boycott Canada" wrote: "Canada" The Deserters Choice. Why be a man, when you can crawl with the snakes. Run to Canada... The Deserters Choice.... Yes, please do, we don't mind accepting the intelligent Americans...the more the merrier... Sure. Every time an American deserter with a IQ of 90 runs to canada, It razes all of canada's IQ average by 20 points |
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"Canada" The Deserters Choice
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:58:45 GMT, "Boycott Canada"
wrote: "gman99" wrote in message ... "Boycott Canada" wrote: "Canada" The Deserters Choice. Why be a man, when you can crawl with the snakes. Run to Canada... The Deserters Choice.... Yes, please do, we don't mind accepting the intelligent Americans...the more the merrier... Sure. Every time an American deserter with a IQ of 90 runs to canada, It razes all of canada's IQ average by 20 points Sorry, it's spelt "raises" -- you are hereby disqualified and returned to the US. BTW, this is a USA-Canada travel group. Take your moaning and BS elsewhere. --- Mike from Ottawa |
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"Canada" The Deserters Choice
"Mike from Ottawa" wrote in message ... On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:58:45 GMT, "Boycott Canada" wrote: "gman99" wrote in message ... "Boycott Canada" wrote: "Canada" The Deserters Choice. Why be a man, when you can crawl with the snakes. Run to Canada... The Deserters Choice.... Yes, please do, we don't mind accepting the intelligent Americans...the more the merrier... Sure. Every time an American deserter with a IQ of 90 runs to canada, It razes all of canada's IQ average by 20 points Sorry, it's spelt "raises" -- you are hereby disqualified and returned to the US. BTW, this is a USA-Canada travel group. Take your moaning and BS elsewhere. --- Mike from Ottawa So Mikie...I wona post here. Shove that up your spell checker |
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"Canada" The Deserters Choice
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 00:15:26 GMT, "Boycott Canada"
wrote: snip So Mikie...I wona post here. Shove that up your spell checker At the very least, it's "wanna" -- you're still a reject, and illiterate at that. Run along, little troll. --- Mike from Ottawa |
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"Canada" The Deserters Choice
"Boycott Canada" wrote in message ... After all....Canada is almost as communistic country in the west, thanks to Cuba... Look how good that's going Castro...If it were not for the sorry assed canadians supporting him with all the tourist trade he'd have been gone a long time ago... FU canada Yeah, the Miami Cubans sending millions upon millions in remittances every year haven't helped Castro at all. Good point. Chris |
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"Canada" The Deserters Choice
127.0.0.1 wrote: On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 03:08:20 GMT, Brian Wickham wrote: On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 00:57:25 GMT, "Boycott Canada" wrote: "Canada" The Deserters Choice. Why be a man, when you can crawl with the snakes. Run to Canada... The Deserters Choice.... Why be a man when your Daddy's friends can get you into the National Guard ahead of the waiting list? what NG unit has a waiting list? but why let facts get in the way of a good anti bush rant Until the draft was abolished most guard units had a waiting list of kids trying to avoid Vietnam. Of course today you join the guard and get sent to Iraq. |
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"Canada" The Deserters Choice
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:58:45 GMT, "Boycott Canada" wrote:
Yes, please do, we don't mind accepting the intelligent Americans...the more the merrier... Sure. Every time an American deserter with a IQ of 90 runs to canada, It razes all of canada's IQ average by 20 points "Razes"? Apparently you're one they threw back, eh? -- Larry |
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"Canada" The Deserters Choice
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 07:28:37 -0400, 127.0.0.1 wrote:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 03:08:20 GMT, Brian Wickham wrote: On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 00:57:25 GMT, "Boycott Canada" wrote: "Canada" The Deserters Choice. Why be a man, when you can crawl with the snakes. Run to Canada... The Deserters Choice.... Why be a man when your Daddy's friends can get you into the National Guard ahead of the waiting list? what NG unit has a waiting list? but why let facts get in the way of a good anti bush rant Apparently, 127.0.0.1, you were not involved in the draft in the Vietnam era. Anyone who received a draft notice and then tried to enlist in the Guard or Reserves soon found out that there were no slots open and they would have to go on a waiting list. There were a few slots open for selected occupations that were hard to fill. Having a 1st Class Radio License I could have gotten one in a local Air Force Reserve unit but decided that 6 years of bull**** was less desirable than 2 years. Result - a tour in Vietnam. FYI, even if you tried to enlist after receiving a draft notice you soon found out that the school you wanted was filled for the next six months. The only reason to enlist was to get a guaranteed school assignment. I'm not counting the five guys who actually wanted to be infantrymen, or the Marines which is a wholly different mind set. (I have two relatives who were Marines, one a career man. So don't think I'm dumping on the Marines. I even know a guy who joined the Marines after he had been in the Peace Corps which meant he didn't owe any military service!) Bush got accepted for pilot training over many other applicants who had higher scores, and were in every way more acceptable. Does that amount to jumping the list? I think so. And then to top it off he "volunteered" for stateside duty and managed to miss his flight physical, which sabotaged any flying career he may have been pretending to want. And yes, maybe on an individual basis I'm not that keen on those who ran to Canada, but I do believe they gave up something. When drafted you had choices 1. go willingly 2. enlist for a school 3. try to get into the guard or reserves before your report date 4. appeal the decision a. prove you didn't really deserve to go i. sole support ii. medically unfit iii. a raft of other legal reasons b. fake the board with phony x-rays 5. Run to Canada, for whatever motives. Those who ran to Canada either didn't know a doctor willing to give them someone else's x-rays because they weren't in that higher social cast, or they had deep principles that drove them to give up a pretty good life with their friends and family in this country. My ZIP code had the highest compliance for the draft during Vietnam. It also had the highest rate of deaths in Vietnam. My grammar school alone had eight dead, one of them a Medal of Honor winner. I have many people I grew up with that went to Vietnam, and some to Germany. And the neighborhood has another, live, Medal of Honor winner. Yet this is one more Vietnam veteran who has no problem with those who went to Canada. Why don't we talk about the upper middle class, and rich, boys who found it quite easy with the connivance of their parents and doctors to lie their way out of the draft. Are they too different from the rich boys who got nice cushy slots in guard units? Both methods involve a measure of dishonesty. It may have been against the law to go to Canada but it wasn't sneaky. It was an act that all could see. John Kerry was a rich boy. He seemed to understand his duty. President George Bush's father flew in combat. I wonder what his feelings are about his son's lack of a sense of duty? I feel sorry for him because I know what he may be thinking. My stepfather flew 30 combat missions as a gunner in the 8th Air Force. He lived through hell and came home to tell me that the louder the patriot, the bigger the coward. George Bush Sr. must know that. I feel sorry for him and the sacrifices he made in the Pacific to be so dishonored by such a callow son. And I'll tell you something else about the National Guard. The local Guard units are social clubs. The local pols and real estate men run them and decide who will join. These days it doesn't make much difference but during the draft era there was a lot of pressure on Guard units from would-be applicants. They had to create waiting lists but most of these lists were fictions meant to keep out the nobodies. The sons of all the local prominent people sailed right in on some pretext or another if they lost a deferment and were put in jeopardy of being drafted. These were the same people who were the loudest supporters of "our fighting men in Vietnam". They are the same people today who loudly support Bush. Phony patriots, quivering cowards. Are there any of you NGs out there willing to speak up and tell the truth about Guard units back in the 1960s? It's time to come clean and admit we were all afraid to go, but some took easy routes out that were made available to them. Brian Wickham, Sgt 1968-69 CMAC, Republic of Vietnam |
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"Canada" The Deserters Choice
Boycott Canada wrote:
"gman99" wrote: Yes, please do, we don't mind accepting the intelligent Americans...the more the merrier... Sure. Every time an American deserter with a IQ of 90 runs to canada, It razes all of canada's IQ average by 20 points By the 10th time, Canada's IQ will have seen a 200-point increase. I knew that being opposed to pointless wars was smart, but I had no idea it rubbed off so well. miguel -- Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu |
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"Canada" The Deserters Choice
"Frank F. Matthews" wrote in message
... 127.0.0.1 wrote: Until the draft was abolished most guard units had a waiting list of kids trying to avoid Vietnam. Of course today you join the guard and get sent to Iraq. Gimme a break. Many National Guardsmen were sent to Vietnam, particularly pilots. So when and where did you serve in Vietnam? KM -- (-:alohacyberian:-) At my website there are 3000 live cameras or visit NASA, play games, read jokes, send greeting cards & connect to CNN news, NBA, the White House, Academy Awards or learn all about Hawaii, Israel and mo http://keith.martin.home.att.net/ |
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