Need help for my trip

JP Peiren wrote:
Hi, I'm planning a trip in May next year. We are two couples (2 drivers)
This is our schedule:

Day 01 Brussels - Tucson
Day 02 Visit Saguaro NP + Organ Pipe Cactus NM + stay in Scottsdale
Day 03 Scottsdale - Flagstaff - Wallnut Canyon + stay near Petrified Forrest
Day 04 Visit Petrified Forrest + Canyon De Chelley (worth visiting ?) + stay near Mexican Water
Day 05 Visit Mesa Verde + Goosenecks State Park

Goosenecks: worth 5 minutes



+ stay in Moab
Is Antelope Canyon worth visiting ?

yes .... at all costs

Note: they say "visit at middle of day" ... this only matters if
you want a photo, made with a simple camera, of your kids in
sunlight. Otherwise, any time is fine, though you need a tripod for
photos (1 second or longer exposures.) Both lower and upper are
beautiful, and lower opens earlier. You need not see both unless you
are a photo freak. The lower one has ladders and some tight spots.

Just show up at the gates ... don't get a tour from Page.

You are missing Natural Bridges. It is a bit out of the way,
and similar to the larger arches in Arches, but very nice.


Day 06 - 07 Visit Arches, stay in Moab
Day 08 - 09 - 10 Visit Canyonlands + stay in Moab

You don't need this much time unles you do LOTS of hiking.


Day 11 Moab via Capitol Reef + stay near Bryce Canyon (Rubys Inn ?)
Capitol Reef can be slighted.

Day 12 - 13 Visit Bryce Canyon
Day 14 Bryce - Cedar Breaks - stay in Layton or Ogden

This is too much for Bryce. Take the (expensive!) 70 minute
helicopter tour of Escalante-Grand Staircase

Day 15 Layton - Yellowstone NP (is the Old Faithfull a good place to stay ?)
Day 16 - 20 Visit Yellowstone NP
Day 21 Yellowstone - Salt Lake City
Day 22 Salt Lake City

You are missing Zion. You must see Zion. If you must ...
drive from Moab through Grand Reef, stopping only to see the
prtroglyphs and making a quick tour down the road, and head off
all in one day to Bryce, doing a quick drive through. Then the next
day do a helicopter trip if you can afford it, do some hikes, and
head off to Zion. You need at least one and a half and preferably
two days in Zion. You could also try cutting a bit from Canyonlands.
The north part of Canlonlands in not needed.

You might also want to spend more time in Yellowstone. Two days
with parts of the travel days is enough only for a quick look.

Doug McDonald

JP Peiren wrote:
Hi, I'm planning a trip in May next year. We are two couples (2 drivers)
This is our schedule:

Day 01 Brussels - Tucson
Day 02 Visit Saguaro NP + Organ Pipe Cactus NM + stay in Scottsdale
Day 03 Scottsdale - Flagstaff - Wallnut Canyon + stay near Petrified Forrest
Day 04 Visit Petrified Forrest + Canyon De Chelley (worth visiting ?) + stay near Mexican Water
Day 05 Visit Mesa Verde + Goosenecks State Park

Goosenecks: worth 5 minutes



+ stay in Moab
Is Antelope Canyon worth visiting ?

yes .... at all costs

Note: they say "visit at middle of day" ... this only matters if
you want a photo, made with a simple camera, of your kids in
sunlight. Otherwise, any time is fine, though you need a tripod for
photos (1 second or longer exposures.) Both lower and upper are
beautiful, and lower opens earlier. You need not see both unless you
are a photo freak. The lower one has ladders and some tight spots.

Just show up at the gates ... don't get a tour from Page.

You are missing Natural Bridges. It is a bit out of the way,
and similar to the larger arches in Arches, but very nice.


Day 06 - 07 Visit Arches, stay in Moab
Day 08 - 09 - 10 Visit Canyonlands + stay in Moab

You don't need this much time unles you do LOTS of hiking.


Day 11 Moab via Capitol Reef + stay near Bryce Canyon (Rubys Inn ?)
Capitol Reef can be slighted.

Day 12 - 13 Visit Bryce Canyon
Day 14 Bryce - Cedar Breaks - stay in Layton or Ogden

This is too much for Bryce. Take the (expensive!) 70 minute
helicopter tour of Escalante-Grand Staircase

Day 15 Layton - Yellowstone NP (is the Old Faithfull a good place to stay ?)
Day 16 - 20 Visit Yellowstone NP
Day 21 Yellowstone - Salt Lake City
Day 22 Salt Lake City

You are missing Zion. You must see Zion. If you must ...
drive from Moab through Grand Reef, stopping only to see the
prtroglyphs and making a quick tour down the road, and head off
all in one day to Bryce, doing a quick drive through. Then the next
day do a helicopter trip if you can afford it, do some hikes, and
head off to Zion. You need at least one and a half and preferably
two days in Zion. You could also try cutting a bit from Canyonlands.
The north part of Canlonlands in not needed.

You might also want to spend more time in Yellowstone. Two days
with parts of the travel days is enough only for a quick look.

Doug McDonald

Canyon de Chelly is, in my opinion, a better choice than Petrified Forest.
Having said that, the way you are heading east, towards Moab, has you going
a long way out of the way to reach PF and Canyon de Chelly. I would suggest
you would be better off heading straight to Moab, via Page, and try and use
any time saved to see Zion Canyon. Although Moab is a great base, you could
drop a day there, plus the one saved not going to PF and CDC and stay a
couple of days at Zion, only 2.5 hours from Bryce.




"JP Peiren" wrote in message
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Hi, I'm planning a trip in May next year. We are two couples (2 drivers)
This is our schedule:

Day 01 Brussels - Tucson
Day 02 Visit Saguaro NP + Organ Pipe Cactus NM + stay in Scottsdale
Day 03 Scottsdale - Flagstaff - Wallnut Canyon + stay near Petrified
Forrest
Day 04 Visit Petrified Forrest + Canyon De Chelley (worth visiting ?) +
stay near Mexican Water
Day 05 Visit Mesa Verde + Goosenecks State Park + stay in Moab
Is Antelope Canyon worth visiting ?
Day 06 - 07 Visit Arches, stay in Moab
Day 08 - 09 - 10 Visit Canyonlands + stay in Moab
Day 11 Moab via Capitol Reef + stay near Bryce Canyon (Rubys Inn ?)
Day 12 - 13 Visit Bryce Canyon
Day 14 Bryce - Cedar Breaks - stay in Layton or Ogden
Day 15 Layton - Yellowstone NP (is the Old Faithfull a good place to stay
?)
Day 16 - 20 Visit Yellowstone NP
Day 21 Yellowstone - Salt Lake City
Day 22 Salt Lake City
Day 23 Salt Lake City - Brussels

We both have a cacti collection at home. We would like to take pics of
cacti + blooms. Anyone who
knows good places in Arizona ? I saw a lot of blooming cacti between
Phoenix and Page some
years ago.

Any help would be appreciated. Thankx.

Jean Paul

Canyon de Chelly is, in my opinion, a better choice than Petrified Forest.
Having said that, the way you are heading east, towards Moab, has you going
a long way out of the way to reach PF and Canyon de Chelly. I would suggest
you would be better off heading straight to Moab, via Page, and try and use
any time saved to see Zion Canyon. Although Moab is a great base, you could
drop a day there, plus the one saved not going to PF and CDC and stay a
couple of days at Zion, only 2.5 hours from Bryce.




"JP Peiren" wrote in message
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Hi, I'm planning a trip in May next year. We are two couples (2 drivers)
This is our schedule:

Day 01 Brussels - Tucson
Day 02 Visit Saguaro NP + Organ Pipe Cactus NM + stay in Scottsdale
Day 03 Scottsdale - Flagstaff - Wallnut Canyon + stay near Petrified
Forrest
Day 04 Visit Petrified Forrest + Canyon De Chelley (worth visiting ?) +
stay near Mexican Water
Day 05 Visit Mesa Verde + Goosenecks State Park + stay in Moab
Is Antelope Canyon worth visiting ?
Day 06 - 07 Visit Arches, stay in Moab
Day 08 - 09 - 10 Visit Canyonlands + stay in Moab
Day 11 Moab via Capitol Reef + stay near Bryce Canyon (Rubys Inn ?)
Day 12 - 13 Visit Bryce Canyon
Day 14 Bryce - Cedar Breaks - stay in Layton or Ogden
Day 15 Layton - Yellowstone NP (is the Old Faithfull a good place to stay
?)
Day 16 - 20 Visit Yellowstone NP
Day 21 Yellowstone - Salt Lake City
Day 22 Salt Lake City
Day 23 Salt Lake City - Brussels

We both have a cacti collection at home. We would like to take pics of
cacti + blooms. Anyone who
knows good places in Arizona ? I saw a lot of blooming cacti between
Phoenix and Page some
years ago.

Any help would be appreciated. Thankx.

Jean Paul

JP Peiren wrote in
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Hi, I'm planning a trip in May next year. We are two couples (2
drivers) This is our schedule:

Day 01 Brussels - Tucson
Day 02 Visit Saguaro NP + Organ Pipe Cactus NM + stay in Scottsdale
Day 03 Scottsdale - Flagstaff - Wallnut Canyon + stay near Petrified
Forrest Day 04 Visit Petrified Forrest + Canyon De Chelley (worth
visiting ?) + stay near Mexican Water Day 05 Visit Mesa Verde +
Goosenecks State Park + stay in Moab
Is Antelope Canyon worth visiting ?
Day 06 - 07 Visit Arches, stay in Moab
Day 08 - 09 - 10 Visit Canyonlands + stay in Moab
Day 11 Moab via Capitol Reef + stay near Bryce Canyon (Rubys Inn ?)
Day 12 - 13 Visit Bryce Canyon
Day 14 Bryce - Cedar Breaks - stay in Layton or Ogden
Day 15 Layton - Yellowstone NP (is the Old Faithfull a good place to
stay ?) Day 16 - 20 Visit Yellowstone NP
Day 21 Yellowstone - Salt Lake City
Day 22 Salt Lake City
Day 23 Salt Lake City - Brussels

We both have a cacti collection at home. We would like to take pics of
cacti + blooms. Anyone who knows good places in Arizona ? I saw a lot
of blooming cacti between Phoenix and Page some years ago.

Any help would be appreciated. Thankx.

Jean Paul


Yellowstone and Jackson Hole Wyoming are an entirely different part of
the west and hugely differenct climatically. I would add at least one
day to the Yellowstone and see some of the Jackson Hole Teton National
Park area. Actually I could honestly reccomend longer, but then you
would be lsighting the southwest. As to weather you can get freezing
temperatures at night in the Yellowstone area in May (darn near it in
early June) day times will be cooler as well, Arizona and southern Utah
are already heating up by then so pack for two different climate zones.

Old Faithful ldoge I haven't stayed there in 30 years it is quaint has
the advantage of being in the park, but a lot of people stay at W
Yellowstone Montana or Gardiner on the North. When driving to
Yellowstone from SLC you may want to go by way of Idaho Falls Idaho,
Rexburg, St Anthony through Island Park and into W yellowstone then
return via Jackson Hole thus seeing a different route each way. (An
alternative is to take the teon Pass to Jackson from Idaho Falls it is a
very nice drive over a well build mountain road.)

If you hadn't guessed I used to live in Idaho Falls, Idaho ;-) and yes I
am a bit prejudiced but I think honest about it.

JP Peiren wrote in
news

Hi, I'm planning a trip in May next year. We are two couples (2
drivers) This is our schedule:

Day 01 Brussels - Tucson
Day 02 Visit Saguaro NP + Organ Pipe Cactus NM + stay in Scottsdale
Day 03 Scottsdale - Flagstaff - Wallnut Canyon + stay near Petrified
Forrest Day 04 Visit Petrified Forrest + Canyon De Chelley (worth
visiting ?) + stay near Mexican Water Day 05 Visit Mesa Verde +
Goosenecks State Park + stay in Moab
Is Antelope Canyon worth visiting ?
Day 06 - 07 Visit Arches, stay in Moab
Day 08 - 09 - 10 Visit Canyonlands + stay in Moab
Day 11 Moab via Capitol Reef + stay near Bryce Canyon (Rubys Inn ?)
Day 12 - 13 Visit Bryce Canyon
Day 14 Bryce - Cedar Breaks - stay in Layton or Ogden
Day 15 Layton - Yellowstone NP (is the Old Faithfull a good place to
stay ?) Day 16 - 20 Visit Yellowstone NP
Day 21 Yellowstone - Salt Lake City
Day 22 Salt Lake City
Day 23 Salt Lake City - Brussels

We both have a cacti collection at home. We would like to take pics of
cacti + blooms. Anyone who knows good places in Arizona ? I saw a lot
of blooming cacti between Phoenix and Page some years ago.

Any help would be appreciated. Thankx.

Jean Paul


Yellowstone and Jackson Hole Wyoming are an entirely different part of
the west and hugely differenct climatically. I would add at least one
day to the Yellowstone and see some of the Jackson Hole Teton National
Park area. Actually I could honestly reccomend longer, but then you
would be lsighting the southwest. As to weather you can get freezing
temperatures at night in the Yellowstone area in May (darn near it in
early June) day times will be cooler as well, Arizona and southern Utah
are already heating up by then so pack for two different climate zones.

Old Faithful ldoge I haven't stayed there in 30 years it is quaint has
the advantage of being in the park, but a lot of people stay at W
Yellowstone Montana or Gardiner on the North. When driving to
Yellowstone from SLC you may want to go by way of Idaho Falls Idaho,
Rexburg, St Anthony through Island Park and into W yellowstone then
return via Jackson Hole thus seeing a different route each way. (An
alternative is to take the teon Pass to Jackson from Idaho Falls it is a
very nice drive over a well build mountain road.)

If you hadn't guessed I used to live in Idaho Falls, Idaho ;-) and yes I
am a bit prejudiced but I think honest about it.

JP Peiren wrote in
news

Hi, I'm planning a trip in May next year. We are two couples (2
drivers) This is our schedule:

Day 01 Brussels - Tucson
Day 02 Visit Saguaro NP + Organ Pipe Cactus NM + stay in Scottsdale
Day 03 Scottsdale - Flagstaff - Wallnut Canyon + stay near Petrified
Forrest Day 04 Visit Petrified Forrest + Canyon De Chelley (worth
visiting ?) + stay near Mexican Water Day 05 Visit Mesa Verde +
Goosenecks State Park + stay in Moab
Is Antelope Canyon worth visiting ?
Day 06 - 07 Visit Arches, stay in Moab
Day 08 - 09 - 10 Visit Canyonlands + stay in Moab
Day 11 Moab via Capitol Reef + stay near Bryce Canyon (Rubys Inn ?)
Day 12 - 13 Visit Bryce Canyon
Day 14 Bryce - Cedar Breaks - stay in Layton or Ogden
Day 15 Layton - Yellowstone NP (is the Old Faithfull a good place to
stay ?) Day 16 - 20 Visit Yellowstone NP
Day 21 Yellowstone - Salt Lake City
Day 22 Salt Lake City
Day 23 Salt Lake City - Brussels

We both have a cacti collection at home. We would like to take pics of
cacti + blooms. Anyone who knows good places in Arizona ? I saw a lot
of blooming cacti between Phoenix and Page some years ago.

Any help would be appreciated. Thankx.

Jean Paul


Yellowstone and Jackson Hole Wyoming are an entirely different part of
the west and hugely differenct climatically. I would add at least one
day to the Yellowstone and see some of the Jackson Hole Teton National
Park area. Actually I could honestly reccomend longer, but then you
would be lsighting the southwest. As to weather you can get freezing
temperatures at night in the Yellowstone area in May (darn near it in
early June) day times will be cooler as well, Arizona and southern Utah
are already heating up by then so pack for two different climate zones.

Old Faithful ldoge I haven't stayed there in 30 years it is quaint has
the advantage of being in the park, but a lot of people stay at W
Yellowstone Montana or Gardiner on the North. When driving to
Yellowstone from SLC you may want to go by way of Idaho Falls Idaho,
Rexburg, St Anthony through Island Park and into W yellowstone then
return via Jackson Hole thus seeing a different route each way. (An
alternative is to take the teon Pass to Jackson from Idaho Falls it is a
very nice drive over a well build mountain road.)

If you hadn't guessed I used to live in Idaho Falls, Idaho ;-) and yes I
am a bit prejudiced but I think honest about it.

+ stay in Moab
Is Antelope Canyon worth visiting ?

yes .... at all costs

Note: they say "visit at middle of day" ... this only matters if
you want a photo, made with a simple camera, of your kids in
sunlight. Otherwise, any time is fine, though you need a tripod for
photos (1 second or longer exposures.) Both lower and upper are
beautiful, and lower opens earlier. You need not see both unless you
are a photo freak. The lower one has ladders and some tight spots.

I am a freak

Just show up at the gates ... don't get a tour from Page.

You are missing Natural Bridges. It is a bit out of the way,
and similar to the larger arches in Arches, but very nice.


Day 06 - 07 Visit Arches, stay in Moab
Day 08 - 09 - 10 Visit Canyonlands + stay in Moab

You don't need this much time unles you do LOTS of hiking.


Day 11 Moab via Capitol Reef + stay near Bryce Canyon (Rubys Inn ?)
Capitol Reef can be slighted.

Day 12 - 13 Visit Bryce Canyon
Day 14 Bryce - Cedar Breaks - stay in Layton or Ogden

This is too much for Bryce. Take the (expensive!) 70 minute
helicopter tour of Escalante-Grand Staircase

We decided to stay 2 days because we love Bryce ......

Day 15 Layton - Yellowstone NP (is the Old Faithfull a good place to stay ?)
Day 16 - 20 Visit Yellowstone NP
Day 21 Yellowstone - Salt Lake City
Day 22 Salt Lake City

You are missing Zion. You must see Zion. If you must ...
drive from Moab through Grand Reef, stopping only to see the
prtroglyphs and making a quick tour down the road, and head off
all in one day to Bryce, doing a quick drive through. Then the next
day do a helicopter trip if you can afford it, do some hikes, and
head off to Zion. You need at least one and a half and preferably
two days in Zion. You could also try cutting a bit from Canyonlands.
The north part of Canlonlands in not needed.

You might also want to spend more time in Yellowstone. Two days
with parts of the travel days is enough only for a quick look.

Is it possible to stay in 1 hotel during the whole visit or is it better to change hotels ?
We stay at least 5 days in Yellowstone.

Doug McDonald

Thanks for your help Doug.

We have made a trip befo LA - San Diego - Yuma - Phoenix - Montezuma Castle - Page - Grand Canyon
- Monument Valley - Bryce Canyon - Zion NP - Las Vegas - Death Valley - Mojave - Bakersfield -
Visalia - Fresno - Yosemite NP - Modesto - San Francisco - Monterey - Carmel - LA

You see we have visited Zion. Maybe, we should stay 2 days in Canyonlands , 1 in Arches and spend 2
more days in Yellowstone.

Jean Paul

+ stay in Moab
Is Antelope Canyon worth visiting ?

yes .... at all costs

Note: they say "visit at middle of day" ... this only matters if
you want a photo, made with a simple camera, of your kids in
sunlight. Otherwise, any time is fine, though you need a tripod for
photos (1 second or longer exposures.) Both lower and upper are
beautiful, and lower opens earlier. You need not see both unless you
are a photo freak. The lower one has ladders and some tight spots.

I am a freak

Just show up at the gates ... don't get a tour from Page.

You are missing Natural Bridges. It is a bit out of the way,
and similar to the larger arches in Arches, but very nice.


Day 06 - 07 Visit Arches, stay in Moab
Day 08 - 09 - 10 Visit Canyonlands + stay in Moab

You don't need this much time unles you do LOTS of hiking.


Day 11 Moab via Capitol Reef + stay near Bryce Canyon (Rubys Inn ?)
Capitol Reef can be slighted.

Day 12 - 13 Visit Bryce Canyon
Day 14 Bryce - Cedar Breaks - stay in Layton or Ogden

This is too much for Bryce. Take the (expensive!) 70 minute
helicopter tour of Escalante-Grand Staircase

We decided to stay 2 days because we love Bryce ......

Day 15 Layton - Yellowstone NP (is the Old Faithfull a good place to stay ?)
Day 16 - 20 Visit Yellowstone NP
Day 21 Yellowstone - Salt Lake City
Day 22 Salt Lake City

You are missing Zion. You must see Zion. If you must ...
drive from Moab through Grand Reef, stopping only to see the
prtroglyphs and making a quick tour down the road, and head off
all in one day to Bryce, doing a quick drive through. Then the next
day do a helicopter trip if you can afford it, do some hikes, and
head off to Zion. You need at least one and a half and preferably
two days in Zion. You could also try cutting a bit from Canyonlands.
The north part of Canlonlands in not needed.

You might also want to spend more time in Yellowstone. Two days
with parts of the travel days is enough only for a quick look.

Is it possible to stay in 1 hotel during the whole visit or is it better to change hotels ?
We stay at least 5 days in Yellowstone.

Doug McDonald

Thanks for your help Doug.

We have made a trip befo LA - San Diego - Yuma - Phoenix - Montezuma Castle - Page - Grand Canyon
- Monument Valley - Bryce Canyon - Zion NP - Las Vegas - Death Valley - Mojave - Bakersfield -
Visalia - Fresno - Yosemite NP - Modesto - San Francisco - Monterey - Carmel - LA

You see we have visited Zion. Maybe, we should stay 2 days in Canyonlands , 1 in Arches and spend 2
more days in Yellowstone.

Jean Paul

Sounds like a great trip, but have you considered visiting
the Grand Canyon? Personally I'd rank it higher than several
of the places on your list.

James

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