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Old February 16th, 2005, 12:52 AM
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On 15 Feb 2005 13:10:10 -0800, "
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"They stopped being new a long time ago. In fact, they never were
new."


yep, I agree you they were never "new" but also to say they stopped
being new long ago, by the same reasoning, wouldnt san fran n longer

be
considered northern cali?


apples and oranges. "They" who stopped calling it the new
world are not the "they" which still call it northern Cal.
The former no longer found it useful. The latter still find
it a useful distinction, even if it is inaccurate. I suspect
if there ever comes a need to differentiate between southern,
middle, and northern, adjustments will be made as such.


For instance, if the semi-serious, semi-jocular movement to break
the state into three parts ever succeeds.

To date, there is little need. (Although I'd bet you in
some deep dark recess of DOT or some other state function,
the names are different).

You'd be surprised what folks "out west" consider to
be "New England". You'd be surprised what folks in
New England consider to be "out west". Folks from
NYC get occasionally frustrated when people say
"downtown" for "in town" because they actually come from
somplace that has a down, middle and up. (A distinction
in some places between up-west and up east as well).
They are titles, not physical descriptions.


After living in Arizona and Washinton (state) for some years, I
got a job in eastern Kansas. Folks in Kansas always bristled when
I refered to it as "here in the East".

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Old February 16th, 2005, 12:54 AM
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:34:54 -0500, "Claim Guy"
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It is quite clearly central.....


Do you think it could be as simple as the fact that it is about 280 miles
due north to Oregon and 480 miles due southeast to Mexico?

That would...um.....yup, put in well into the top half of the state.

If that isn't to your liking, I would vote for "Mid-north Central Coastal
California". That description is getting us where we need to be on this
topic.


San Luis Obispo is Central California, kind of the boundary
between northern and southern California. Someone once said the
boundary is where the newspaper delivered to homes changes from
the San Francisco Chronicle to the Los Angeles Times.



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Old February 16th, 2005, 12:55 AM
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On 15 Feb 2005 13:47:04 -0800, "
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well....here in massachusetts we would never call worcester "western
massachusetts", although proportionately, it is similar to your numbers
for san fran being north....

I didnt want to start a whole big thing, I was just curious if it was
people who didnt know how far north cali actualy went after san
fran....


If you've ever driven it you'd know why we ignore it. It's
nothing but scenery.

it has always bugged me that people call it northern, thats all....


People who complain about it being Northern California bug me.

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Old February 16th, 2005, 12:58 AM
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On 15 Feb 2005 14:19:06 -0800, "
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its funny what bugs people....

i have a friend who moved out to san jose and says he only hears the
word "cali" used to describe his new state....but he has also started
speaking genericly about how he lives in northern cali.....


I lived in the Bay Area from 1985 to 2001 and never heard a
resident there call it "cali". Your friend must have moved into a
nouveau Californian neighborhood. Probably talks about the nearby
city "Frisco", too.


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Old February 16th, 2005, 01:00 AM
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wrote:
...brains are not something floridians are known for.....a
state that cant figure out how to use a punch ballot can
hardly be counted on to provide geographical descriptors.


I resemble that remark. We, Floridians, have as much brains
as say, Texas.... ummm, well okay, point made. -R-


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Old February 16th, 2005, 01:02 AM
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"Hatunen" wrote in message
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On 15 Feb 2005 14:19:06 -0800, "
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its funny what bugs people....

i have a friend who moved out to san jose and says he only hears the
word "cali" used to describe his new state....but he has also started
speaking genericly about how he lives in northern cali.....


I lived in the Bay Area from 1985 to 2001 and never heard a
resident there call it "cali". Your friend must have moved into a
nouveau Californian neighborhood. Probably talks about the nearby
city "Frisco", too.


They should revive that proposed $25 fine for anyone call the city "Frisco".



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Old February 16th, 2005, 01:03 AM
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I dont think anyone with a sense of geography refers to either maryland
or virginia as being southern states........they are clearly
Mid-atlantic.....


It's not geography but history and political science. Check out the Mason
Dixon line.

but then again, brains are not something floridians are known for.....a
state that cant figure out how to use a punch ballot can hardly be
counted on to provide geographical descriptors.....

Chuck



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Old February 16th, 2005, 01:29 AM
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in any news story on a national program, they wont say storms battered
the south if maryland or va is involved, they will say, the mid
atlantic is at risk for high winds, etc......

I dont think you could find more than 2 or 3 people in ten who would
refer to maryland as being a southern state, regardless of where the
mason dixon was drawn......

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Old February 16th, 2005, 01:37 AM
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I dont think anyone with a sense of geography refers to either maryland
or virginia as being southern states........they are clearly
Mid-atlantic.....


I grew up in New York State sort of near Syracuse. We always called
Maryland and Virginia southern states because they were south of the
Mason-Dixon Line in the Civil War. When we drove to Ocean City,
Maryland, we were in the South for sure, no doubt about it.
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Old February 16th, 2005, 01:42 AM
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I dont think you could find more than 2 or 3 people in ten who would
refer to maryland as being a southern state, regardless of where the
mason dixon was drawn......


You obviously didn't grow up in northern PA or New York State nearby.
 




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