Passport Question???

Rita wrote in
:



God Bless America and Everywhere Else, Just Dickie

Well, I for one don't believe for a minute the Iraq war is
keeping me safe and free and I hate to see all the young
lives being lost there. I'd be happy for anyone of our
service people who could get out of there, even briefly.




Amen. If we all support every military operation designed to protect our
freedoms we will end up in a military dictatorship with no freedom shouting
slogans like War is Peace and Love is Hate

Rita,
You are missing my point... There ARE plenty of Americans as well as
other nationalities protecting freedom in Iraq. They are soldiers and
contract civilians protecting each other's freedom as well as the Iraqi
civilians right to live and prosper. Do you think the daily updates on US
news are fabricated? There are evil people in Iraq that will kill or mame
anyone, even children, to regain power in that region. Even anti-war people
would agree that Saddam was an evil tyrant. Put whatever conspiracy theory
you subscribe to aside, when the war first started it was a war to dismantle
an evil murderous dictator. Whatever side you are on now as far as pro-war
or anti-war, I will tell you that the soldiers that are over there aren't
thinking about who's wrong or right. They are thinking about not getting
themselves, their brothers or sisters shot or blown up or worse, killed.
When people join the military, they know they are putting there lives on the
line everyday, during peace time with the most dangerous, intensive training
of any career and at war time for obvious reasons. As my Stepfather has put
it in the past, actually it was stated when he had to leave home to serve in
the first Gulf war, "My job is to make sure that the USA is a safe and free
place for you and the rest of your family and also to protect the lives of
my brothers and sisters in arms because they would do the same for me."

Can we get back on the topic of my Passport questions instead of having Gulf
war debates?

Thanks, Just Dickie



"Rita" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 26 May 2005 23:20:41 GMT, "Just Dickie"

wrote:

Actually, No, I don't want him to stay there. His life is in danger every
single minute of every day but, on the same hand, his job is keeping
America
and it's people safe and free. I personally don't agree with us or anyone
other than the Iraqis being in Iraq, but that still doesn't change the
fact
that we (Most importantly my Dad) are there and we will be there until
there
is some sense of safety and most importantly, freedom, liberty and
democracy. That's us crazy Americans for ya... Most of us are willing to
do
anything for our people's freedom and we will help other land's people do
anything for theirs.

I have the utmost respect for anyone in any Military service in any free
nation even if I don't agree with a lot of things about the respective
government.

God Bless America and Everywhere Else, Just Dickie

Well, I for one don't believe for a minute the Iraq war is
keeping me safe and free and I hate to see all the young
lives being lost there. I'd be happy for anyone of our
service people who could get out of there, even briefly.

I sent my passport in for renewal (San Francisco office) five weeks ago.
Did not ask or pay for expedited service. Got it back 3 weeks ago. They
don't seem particularly slow these days. My husband did pay for expedited
service for his, got it back in a week.

Good luck.

On Fri, 27 May 2005 03:08:07 GMT, Rita wrote:



And I don't know what you can do about your passport.
The last time I needed one in a hurry I went to Rockefeller
Center passport office in NYC and stood on line and got
mine renewed. But then I live in NYC.

That office is long gone. From the State Dept web site:

NEW YORK Passport Agency
376 Hudson Street
New York, NY 10014
Hours: 7:30 a.m. - 3:00 p.m., local time, M-F, excluding Federal
holidays
Automated Appointment Number: 1-877-487-2778

NOTE: New York Passport Agency serves customers who are traveling
within 2 weeks (14 days), or who need foreign visas for travel. An
appointment is required.

Brian

On Fri, 27 May 2005 03:08:07 GMT, Rita wrote:



And I don't know what you can do about your passport.
The last time I needed one in a hurry I went to Rockefeller
Center passport office in NYC and stood on line and got
mine renewed. But then I live in NYC.

That office is long gone. From the State Dept web site:

NEW YORK Passport Agency
376 Hudson Street
New York, NY 10014
Hours: 7:30 a.m. - 3:00 p.m., local time, M-F, excluding Federal
holidays
Automated Appointment Number: 1-877-487-2778

NOTE: New York Passport Agency serves customers who are traveling
within 2 weeks (14 days), or who need foreign visas for travel. An
appointment is required.

Brian

Rita said her relatives in Iraq were thus:
"his job is keeping America
and it's people safe and free".

That is a load of crap, bigtime!.

Keeping USA safe and free is a state of mind of which "you lot" in US
have a phobia , that borders on the insanity.
What your government has done around the world since "shrub"
got there has made America more unsafe and your administration
has certainly run rough shod over your (and others) so called rights
so your "Freedoms" guaranteed by your constitution are being curtailed
in the name of security.
Security in US airports is a big joke, and so is your the homeland security
mob.
The private mob that do your airport screening are a bigger joke and
I suspect they employ perverts as well seeing as they frisk women down for
what I suspect is the thrill of a "grope".
Fortress America...
"soon we will be able to turn the water tap on and fill up the castle."

Homeland security would be better at finding someone "under the bed than
McCarthy did when he was looking for REDS under the bed
and took US citizens rights and trod upon them . History repeating itself

Someone yells patriotism and you lot go mad, name calling anyone
"traitor or unpatriotic" who dares to suggest they may be wrong.

When will you lot stop listening to your crap US media who are
pussy footing to the currnt administration and get to know something
about the rest of the world.
Yur PBS network media is doing better at getting the fact to the people than
the
mainstream media, and CNN is a bloody joke.

In 10-15 years US will be a third world power whereas India & China
will be more powerful than US unless US wakes up to itself and stops beating
everyone they dislike up
(but only when they want the oil for your wasteful and energy hungry US)

You don't have "all knowing" knowledge (about the world outside US)
as you (US) seem to suggest to the rest of the world and you
(US citizens generally) are a very colloquial lot.
Not too many of your citizens even know where most countries you have troops
in are on the world map and they appear to know very little about anything
outside of the continental USA.
(even those I have met whilst travelling around the world are very short on
knowledge of anywhere other than where they have travelled to lately)
They always read "USA today" instead of finding out about where they are
by reading the local newspapers.

Hence 50+ a small bit % of you put an idiot & simpleton into the
white house like "shrub". You believe everything the lying Bast*** says.
Slimey as they come, would slip easily under the door stopper.
Four years is a long time for the world to wait to get rid of him.
You also need to sack Wolfowitz as he is the architect of your
"If we dont like 'em send in the army and belt 'em up" policy.
Iraq is your current Vietnam and we all know what happened there,
....you got your ass licked and you went home with your tail between your
legs.
US Should never have gone into Vietnam and assisted the corrupt Sth
Vietnmese govt.
France had tried to get that lot sorted out long ago, and they knew better
than your lot.

US supports corrupt/ dictatoral regimes when it suits their own economic
need,
otherwise they close a blind eye to this type of stuff that goes on around
the world
where people are being starved and killed (just like in Iraq in early
1990's)
every day of the year and it is still happening in other places far worse
than in Iraq.
Learn to challenge your Government and not believe every "spin doctors"
words that
comes out of shrubs mouth.

BTW I live in a democracy and we are free to give our government hell and we
do
if they need it.
JohnH

"Rita" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 26 May 2005 23:20:41 GMT, "Just Dickie"

wrote:

Actually, No, I don't want him to stay there. His life is in danger every
single minute of every day but, on the same hand, his job is keeping
America
and it's people safe and free. I personally don't agree with us or anyone
other than the Iraqis being in Iraq, but that still doesn't change the
fact
that we (Most importantly my Dad) are there and we will be there until
there
is some sense of safety and most importantly, freedom, liberty and
democracy. That's us crazy Americans for ya... Most of us are willing to
do
anything for our people's freedom and we will help other land's people do
anything for theirs.

I have the utmost respect for anyone in any Military service in any free
nation even if I don't agree with a lot of things about the respective
government.

God Bless America and Everywhere Else, Just Dickie

Well, I for one don't believe for a minute the Iraq war is
keeping me safe and free and I hate to see all the young
lives being lost there. I'd be happy for anyone of our
service people who could get out of there, even briefly.

Rita said her relatives in Iraq were thus:
"his job is keeping America
and it's people safe and free".

That is a load of crap, bigtime!.

Keeping USA safe and free is a state of mind of which "you lot" in US
have a phobia , that borders on the insanity.
What your government has done around the world since "shrub"
got there has made America more unsafe and your administration
has certainly run rough shod over your (and others) so called rights
so your "Freedoms" guaranteed by your constitution are being curtailed
in the name of security.
Security in US airports is a big joke, and so is your the homeland security
mob.
The private mob that do your airport screening are a bigger joke and
I suspect they employ perverts as well seeing as they frisk women down for
what I suspect is the thrill of a "grope".
Fortress America...
"soon we will be able to turn the water tap on and fill up the castle."

Homeland security would be better at finding someone "under the bed than
McCarthy did when he was looking for REDS under the bed
and took US citizens rights and trod upon them . History repeating itself

Someone yells patriotism and you lot go mad, name calling anyone
"traitor or unpatriotic" who dares to suggest they may be wrong.

When will you lot stop listening to your crap US media who are
pussy footing to the currnt administration and get to know something
about the rest of the world.
Yur PBS network media is doing better at getting the fact to the people than
the
mainstream media, and CNN is a bloody joke.

In 10-15 years US will be a third world power whereas India & China
will be more powerful than US unless US wakes up to itself and stops beating
everyone they dislike up
(but only when they want the oil for your wasteful and energy hungry US)

You don't have "all knowing" knowledge (about the world outside US)
as you (US) seem to suggest to the rest of the world and you
(US citizens generally) are a very colloquial lot.
Not too many of your citizens even know where most countries you have troops
in are on the world map and they appear to know very little about anything
outside of the continental USA.
(even those I have met whilst travelling around the world are very short on
knowledge of anywhere other than where they have travelled to lately)
They always read "USA today" instead of finding out about where they are
by reading the local newspapers.

Hence 50+ a small bit % of you put an idiot & simpleton into the
white house like "shrub". You believe everything the lying Bast*** says.
Slimey as they come, would slip easily under the door stopper.
Four years is a long time for the world to wait to get rid of him.
You also need to sack Wolfowitz as he is the architect of your
"If we dont like 'em send in the army and belt 'em up" policy.
Iraq is your current Vietnam and we all know what happened there,
....you got your ass licked and you went home with your tail between your
legs.
US Should never have gone into Vietnam and assisted the corrupt Sth
Vietnmese govt.
France had tried to get that lot sorted out long ago, and they knew better
than your lot.

US supports corrupt/ dictatoral regimes when it suits their own economic
need,
otherwise they close a blind eye to this type of stuff that goes on around
the world
where people are being starved and killed (just like in Iraq in early
1990's)
every day of the year and it is still happening in other places far worse
than in Iraq.
Learn to challenge your Government and not believe every "spin doctors"
words that
comes out of shrubs mouth.

BTW I live in a democracy and we are free to give our government hell and we
do
if they need it.
JohnH

"Rita" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 26 May 2005 23:20:41 GMT, "Just Dickie"

wrote:

Actually, No, I don't want him to stay there. His life is in danger every
single minute of every day but, on the same hand, his job is keeping
America
and it's people safe and free. I personally don't agree with us or anyone
other than the Iraqis being in Iraq, but that still doesn't change the
fact
that we (Most importantly my Dad) are there and we will be there until
there
is some sense of safety and most importantly, freedom, liberty and
democracy. That's us crazy Americans for ya... Most of us are willing to
do
anything for our people's freedom and we will help other land's people do
anything for theirs.

I have the utmost respect for anyone in any Military service in any free
nation even if I don't agree with a lot of things about the respective
government.

God Bless America and Everywhere Else, Just Dickie

Well, I for one don't believe for a minute the Iraq war is
keeping me safe and free and I hate to see all the young
lives being lost there. I'd be happy for anyone of our
service people who could get out of there, even briefly.

"John H" wrote in
:

Rita said her relatives in Iraq were thus:
"his job is keeping America
and it's people safe and free".


fwiw and to correct he record Rita didn't say that, Just Dickie did. Rita
takes a stand that seems increasingly unpopular where I live surrounded as
I am with ribbons proclaiming support our tropps and god bless president
Buch and our brave troops.

I am a Vietnam Vet. I didn't believe for a minute that we were supporting
anything but corruption in Saigon, I worked too closely with Vietnamese
troops (individually nice people) to believe otherwise. I feel that
opposition to that war was right and this one even more so.

Rita wrote:


I was not debating you, simply stating my opinion.
But so long as this war persists, expect that many,
many are not happy campers. We don't see the situation
as you do -- not even close. And I feel deeply for our
troops who are dying by the day, and just as deeply
disgusted with the rah rah stuff from those who
choose to support this unnecessary adventure in Iraq.



I am far more disgusted with people like you who don't worry about the
3000 people ALL INNOCENT SAVE 19 OF THEM ... killed on Sept. 11, 2001,
and worry about how ewe can guarantee, as best we can, that it will
never happen again. That guarantee cannot be obtained by doing
nothing, and "diplomacy" is nothing. It can only be done by
ging to where the source of evil is and rooting it out. That ius
what we are doing.


Remember that every death ... be is an American soldier,
a contractor abducted and beheaded by ISlamic terrorists,
one of the terrorists or their sympathizers themselves,
or an ordinary Afghan or Iraqi caught in the crossfire,
owes that deathe to the evil forces of Islam and
islamic fundamentalism. We in the US merely respond to
the attack on us. Israelis respond to teh attack on them.
The blame lies in Islam.

Doug McDonald

Doug McDonald wrote:

Rita wrote:


I was not debating you, simply stating my opinion.
But so long as this war persists, expect that many,
many are not happy campers. We don't see the situation
as you do -- not even close. And I feel deeply for our
troops who are dying by the day, and just as deeply
disgusted with the rah rah stuff from those who
choose to support this unnecessary adventure in Iraq.



I am far more disgusted with people like you who don't worry about the
3000 people ALL INNOCENT SAVE 19 OF THEM ... killed on Sept. 11, 2001,
and worry about how ewe can guarantee, as best we can, that it will
never happen again. That guarantee cannot be obtained by doing
nothing, and "diplomacy" is nothing. It can only be done by
ging to where the source of evil is and rooting it out. That ius
what we are doing.


Remember that every death ... be is an American soldier,
a contractor abducted and beheaded by ISlamic terrorists,
one of the terrorists or their sympathizers themselves,
or an ordinary Afghan or Iraqi caught in the crossfire,
owes that deathe to the evil forces of Islam and
islamic fundamentalism. We in the US merely respond to
the attack on us. Israelis respond to teh attack on them.
The blame lies in Islam.

Doug McDonald


I am also concerned by the deaths of the poor folks lost on Shrub's
magical adventure. An adventure into a place with no history of
involvement in long range terrorism, no involvement in 9/11 (unlike
shrubs buddies in saudi) and a major target of the folks sponsoring 9/11.

As to the involvement of Islam some are involved and some are not. The
fairly secular folks in Iraq were not. The right wing nuts in Saudi
certainly were. Did the neo cons just get lost or are they
geographically and politically challenged?