Huge mess with Emirates

"Alfred Molon" wrote in message
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In article , Alfred Molon
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"Several" cancelled flights is a big mess? You must live a really
sheltered life.

Have never experienced a mess like this since I have started travelling
to Asia in 1999. And for intercontinental flights there are anyway
different standards than for short haul flights, where you can just take
the next one a couple of hours later. It's a different story when
jetlagged and tired people who have been travelling all night find
themselves stranded in a place very far away from home.

And let me add that 27000 people, tired and jetlagged in-between
intercontinental flights were affected, with travel schedules delayed by
up to 24 hours. You think that that is normal?

27000 people is an awful lot of people for a single airline hub airport like
Dubai

How on earth did the air con cope?

It's also about 100 large aircraft stuffed full of people with not many
spare seats.


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William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

"William Black" kirjoitti
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27000 people is an awful lot of people for a single airline hub airport
like Dubai

How on earth did the air con cope?

It's also about 100 large aircraft stuffed full of people with not many
spare seats.

It is funny how about each emirate has their own "international" airport.
For instance the distance between the Dubai and Sharjah airports as a crow
flies is no more than 18 kilometers. On the other hand, the conglomerate of
Dubai, Sharjah and Ajman is so large and rapidly expanding that perhaps it
is reasonable to have two airports (Sharjah is still fairly small though).

"Markku Grönroos" wrote in message
ti.fi...

"William Black" kirjoitti
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27000 people is an awful lot of people for a single airline hub airport
like Dubai

How on earth did the air con cope?

It's also about 100 large aircraft stuffed full of people with not many
spare seats.

It is funny how about each emirate has their own "international" airport.
For instance the distance between the Dubai and Sharjah airports as a crow
flies is no more than 18 kilometers. On the other hand, the conglomerate
of Dubai, Sharjah and Ajman is so large and rapidly expanding that perhaps
it is reasonable to have two airports (Sharjah is still fairly small
though).

It seems to have a lot more to do with politics than anything else.

Bahrain has an empty airport full of unemployed secret policemen and bored
duty free salesmen.

Whoever runs these places obviously has more money than sense and thinks
they need a flash airport to be a 'proper country'.

They're not actually fooling anyone.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

In article i, Markku
Grönroos says...

"William Black" kirjoitti
.. .


27000 people is an awful lot of people for a single airline hub airport
like Dubai

How on earth did the air con cope?

It's also about 100 large aircraft stuffed full of people with not many
spare seats.

Dubai airport has 33 million passengers/year (2007) which translates
into 90000 passengers/day.
Emirates has 2350 flights/week which translates into 335 flights/day.
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Alfred Molon
http://www.molon.de - Photos of Asia, Africa and Europe

"Alfred Molon" wrote in message
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In article i, Markku
Grönroos says...

"William Black" kirjoitti
.. .


27000 people is an awful lot of people for a single airline hub airport
like Dubai

How on earth did the air con cope?

It's also about 100 large aircraft stuffed full of people with not many
spare seats.

Dubai airport has 33 million passengers/year (2007) which translates
into 90000 passengers/day.
Emirates has 2350 flights/week which translates into 335 flights/day.

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All terminating in Dubai?

27,000 extra people kicking about the place would make it uninhabitable for
just about everyone there.

The place is always full to overflowing as it is.

Ever tried to find an empty seat there?

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

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On Nov 19, 4:47 am, "Viviane" wrote:
That sounds very unpleasant. I wouldn't touch Emirates with a barge
pole.
From my trips to Asia and seeing their crew, it seems to be full of Brits
who wouldn't be able to get a job with any other airline.


They had a very good reputation up until a few years ago, but both the
Emirates airline and the Dubai airport have grown very rapidly, and
maybe they haven't been able to maintain their formerly high standards.

Flew once with them never again our route was London to Jakarta with wife
and baby we knew about the stop in Dubaii and the 4 hour transit time no
problem.
We didnt know about the next stop in Columbo which consisted of a 3 hour
wait and not being allowed to leave the plane.
Crew also came around and took away the baby cots so we had 3 hours with
baby on lap.
Next stop was Bangkok for an hour then Singapore were we had to disembark
then immediately board . Someone lost there passport so there was a further
delay.
We finaly arrived in Jakarta the journey took 36 hours and was a nightmare .
I managed to get some money back and took the return with a different
airline.
Would never use a middle eastern airline again .
Now just use Singapore,malaysia,cathay,thai,brunei.

"pied piper" wrote in message
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On Nov 19, 4:47 am, "Viviane" wrote:
That sounds very unpleasant. I wouldn't touch Emirates with a barge
pole.
From my trips to Asia and seeing their crew, it seems to be full of
Brits
who wouldn't be able to get a job with any other airline.


They had a very good reputation up until a few years ago, but both the
Emirates airline and the Dubai airport have grown very rapidly, and
maybe they haven't been able to maintain their formerly high standards.

Flew once with them never again our route was London to Jakarta with wife
and baby we knew about the stop in Dubaii and the 4 hour transit time no
problem.
We didnt know about the next stop in Columbo which consisted of a 3 hour
wait and not being allowed to leave the plane.
Crew also came around and took away the baby cots so we had 3 hours with
baby on lap.
Next stop was Bangkok for an hour then Singapore were we had to disembark
then immediately board . Someone lost there passport so there was a
further delay.
We finaly arrived in Jakarta the journey took 36 hours and was a nightmare
.
I managed to get some money back and took the return with a different
airline.
Would never use a middle eastern airline again .
Now just use Singapore,malaysia,cathay,thai,brunei.

I have flown London-Jakarta return with Emirate several times, maybe 5 times
total (and have flown with them many times on other shorter routes).
Routes have changed a bit over the years but in my experience there are/were
2 basic routes Dubai-Jakarta:
(1) Dubai-Colombo-Singapore-Jakarta. This is a slow route and I have never
been allowed off the plane either. But I have never been stuck there for 3
hours either, usually about 1 hour I think, so I guess you were unlucky.

(2) Dubai-KualaLumpur-Jakarta. Much quicker.

I think there is now a non-stop Dubai-Jkt flight now but not every day

I have never gone via Bangkok on that route and have not seen Bangkok listed
on the Jakarta route. I wonder if there was a mechanical problem which could
not be fixed at Colombo and they diverted to a service facility at Bangkok.
It is hard to see why London-Jakarta would take 36 hours unless there was
some sort of breakdown. It is usually about 20 hours.

I prefer going with Singapore airlines on that route as it is quicker and
with better flight times for me.
But I find Emirates good too and I think you must have been very unlucky on
that flight.

I have not flown with them for a couple of years so can't comment on the
complaints about Dubai airport delays in the original post.

One post said Emirates is crewed by Brits. Not my experience and not many
Brits would have the language ability that Emirates offers on flights I have
been on. On my flights they have always had mixed crew nationalities to get
a wide range of languages and on some flights they announced the range of
languages they could handle, quite a contrast to the usual British Airways
flights.



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In article , RAK says...

One post said Emirates is crewed by Brits.

At least the cabin crew is international, as can be easily seen. No idea
what nationality the pilots have.
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http://www.molon.de - Photos of Asia, Africa and Europe

Ah, so BA hasn't improved on the language front! I haven't flown them for
years. I remember years ago having to interpret for the English speaking
only crew the needs of a passenger who could only speak French. The thing
that amazed me was that it was a flight from London to Paris. I would have
expected at least one crew member able to speak French.

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"pied piper" wrote in message
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On Nov 19, 4:47 am, "Viviane" wrote:
That sounds very unpleasant. I wouldn't touch Emirates with a barge
pole.
From my trips to Asia and seeing their crew, it seems to be full of
Brits
who wouldn't be able to get a job with any other airline.


They had a very good reputation up until a few years ago, but both the
Emirates airline and the Dubai airport have grown very rapidly, and
maybe they haven't been able to maintain their formerly high standards.

Flew once with them never again our route was London to Jakarta with wife
and baby we knew about the stop in Dubaii and the 4 hour transit time no
problem.
We didnt know about the next stop in Columbo which consisted of a 3 hour
wait and not being allowed to leave the plane.
Crew also came around and took away the baby cots so we had 3 hours with
baby on lap.
Next stop was Bangkok for an hour then Singapore were we had to disembark
then immediately board . Someone lost there passport so there was a
further delay.
We finaly arrived in Jakarta the journey took 36 hours and was a
nightmare .
I managed to get some money back and took the return with a different
airline.
Would never use a middle eastern airline again .
Now just use Singapore,malaysia,cathay,thai,brunei.

I have flown London-Jakarta return with Emirate several times, maybe 5
times total (and have flown with them many times on other shorter routes).
Routes have changed a bit over the years but in my experience there
are/were 2 basic routes Dubai-Jakarta:
(1) Dubai-Colombo-Singapore-Jakarta. This is a slow route and I have never
been allowed off the plane either. But I have never been stuck there for 3
hours either, usually about 1 hour I think, so I guess you were unlucky.

(2) Dubai-KualaLumpur-Jakarta. Much quicker.

I think there is now a non-stop Dubai-Jkt flight now but not every day

I have never gone via Bangkok on that route and have not seen Bangkok
listed on the Jakarta route. I wonder if there was a mechanical problem
which could not be fixed at Colombo and they diverted to a service
facility at Bangkok. It is hard to see why London-Jakarta would take 36
hours unless there was some sort of breakdown. It is usually about 20
hours.

I prefer going with Singapore airlines on that route as it is quicker and
with better flight times for me.
But I find Emirates good too and I think you must have been very unlucky
on that flight.

I have not flown with them for a couple of years so can't comment on the
complaints about Dubai airport delays in the original post.

One post said Emirates is crewed by Brits. Not my experience and not many
Brits would have the language ability that Emirates offers on flights I
have been on. On my flights they have always had mixed crew nationalities
to get a wide range of languages and on some flights they announced the
range of languages they could handle, quite a contrast to the usual
British Airways flights.



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