9 Days in Europe, flying into Brussels and out of Munich(Suggestions)

Trip is in early October.

My initial thought was 3 days in Belgium and 6 in Germany with being
based in Brussels/Antwerp couple of day trip and then train to
Cologne.

In Germany wanted to visit Berlin, a little of the Rhine and Munich.

I know 9 days is too little time but.. Love food and drink, so will be
doing lots of beer drinking esp in Belgium, some culture whether
architechture/building and also just walkign around and finding out
more of history etc.

Shri

Too little time for Berlin which needs at least 3 days and München which
needs at least 2 days.
Stay around Cologne and visit the Rhine villages, Bonn, Mainz, Trier....
You could even visit the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg or go down as far as
Frankfurt .
Also the other great Ruhr cities, one day in each of them.
Cologne is not far from Maastricht in Holland and Liège in Belgium, + day
at least.
Aachen is on the way and needs one day beer included.


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Trip is in early October.

My initial thought was 3 days in Belgium and 6 in Germany with being
based in Brussels/Antwerp couple of day trip and then train to
Cologne.

In Germany wanted to visit Berlin, a little of the Rhine and Munich.

I know 9 days is too little time but.. Love food and drink, so will be
doing lots of beer drinking esp in Belgium, some culture whether
architechture/building and also just walkign around and finding out
more of history etc.

Shri

Shri wrote:
Trip is in early October.

My initial thought was 3 days in Belgium and 6 in Germany with being
based in Brussels/Antwerp couple of day trip and then train to
Cologne.

In Germany wanted to visit Berlin, a little of the Rhine and Munich.

I know 9 days is too little time but.. Love food and drink, so will be
doing lots of beer drinking esp in Belgium, some culture whether
architechture/building and also just walkign around and finding out
more of history etc.


You're right. Nine days isn't enough time. Rather than waste what
little time you have on travel you would probably be better off to pick
one destination and perhaps make short trips from there.

If you are starting off in Antwerp you might be better off to scoot up
to the Netherlands or down to Paris.

If you go to Munich you might consider day trips to
Garmish-Partenkirchen, Fussen or Rothernburg ob der Tauber.


You have far too little time to be wasting it on travel days.

In message , Dave Smith
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Shri wrote:
Trip is in early October.
My initial thought was 3 days in Belgium and 6 in Germany with being
based in Brussels/Antwerp couple of day trip and then train to
Cologne.
In Germany wanted to visit Berlin, a little of the Rhine and Munich.
I know 9 days is too little time but.. Love food and drink, so will
be
doing lots of beer drinking esp in Belgium, some culture whether
architechture/building and also just walkign around and finding out
more of history etc.


You're right. Nine days isn't enough time. Rather than waste what
little time you have on travel you would probably be better off to pick
one destination and perhaps make short trips from there.

If you are starting off in Antwerp you might be better off to scoot up
to the Netherlands or down to Paris.

If you go to Munich you might consider day trips to
Garmish-Partenkirchen, Fussen or Rothernburg ob der Tauber.


You have far too little time to be wasting it on travel days.

Why not let the OP decide: some people like to see a little of several
places; some prefer a lot of a few.

Check the Deutsche Bahn website for train times, and see what you can do
taking trains late in the afternoon or early in the morning, to avoid
wasting a day. Or look at Germanwings or other local airlines: Cologne
Berlin or Berlin Munich would be about an hour, but add in time to/from
airports etc.

For the Rhine: a boat trip one way from Cologne, train back would make
a nice day.

2 days Brussels, 2 Cologne, 3 Berlin, 2 Munich?

Side trips can be more time-consuming than seeing the cities and then
going directly between main cities. Rothernburg is beautiful, but not a
first choice if you would rather be in Berlin.

But you have to decide which places you really want.


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Sheila Page wrote:
In message , Dave Smith


You're right. Nine days isn't enough time. Rather than waste what
little time you have on travel you would probably be better off to
pick one destination and perhaps make short trips from there.

If you are starting off in Antwerp you might be better off to scoot up
to the Netherlands or down to Paris.

If you go to Munich you might consider day trips to
Garmish-Partenkirchen, Fussen or Rothernburg ob der Tauber.


You have far too little time to be wasting it on travel days.

Why not let the OP decide: some people like to see a little of several
places; some prefer a lot of a few.

The OP acknowledged that he knows that it really isn't enough time. That
is why I suggested going to one or the other and making day trips from
there.




Check the Deutsche Bahn website for train times, and see what you can do
taking trains late in the afternoon or early in the morning, to avoid
wasting a day. Or look at Germanwings or other local airlines: Cologne
Berlin or Berlin Munich would be about an hour, but add in time to/from
airports etc.

For the Rhine: a boat trip one way from Cologne, train back would make
a nice day.

2 days Brussels, 2 Cologne, 3 Berlin, 2 Munich?


Do the math. That adds up to 9 days, and it does not account for travel
time.




Side trips can be more time-consuming than seeing the cities and then
going directly between main cities. Rothernburg is beautiful, but not a
first choice if you would rather be in Berlin.


Bear in mind that the OP was talking about 6 days in Germany and was
thinking of going to Berlin and Munich and seeing the Rhine. It is a 5-6
hour drive from Berlin to Munich, and probably at least as long by
train. He could fly but getting to the airport and hour or two early,
collecting luggage, getting into the city.... it all chews into his
limited time.


But you have to decide which places you really want.

That is why he was given some advice.

On Sep 21, 5:30*pm, Dave Smith wrote:
Sheila Page wrote:
In message , Dave Smith

You're right. Nine days isn't enough time. *Rather than waste what
little time you have on travel you would probably be better off to
pick one destination and perhaps make short trips from there.

If you are starting off in Antwerp you might be better off to scoot up
to the Netherlands or down to Paris.

If you go to Munich you might consider day trips to
Garmish-Partenkirchen, Fussen or Rothernburg ob der Tauber.

You have far too little time to be wasting it on travel days.

Why not let the OP decide: *some people like to see a little of several
places; some prefer a lot of a few.

The OP acknowledged that he knows that it really isn't enough time. That
is why I suggested going to one or the other and making day trips from
there.



Check the Deutsche Bahn website for train times, and see what you can do
taking trains late in the afternoon or early in the morning, to avoid
wasting a day. *Or look at Germanwings or other local airlines: *Cologne
Berlin or Berlin Munich would be about an hour, but add in time to/from
airports etc.

For the Rhine: *a boat trip one way from Cologne, train back would make
a nice day.

2 days Brussels, 2 Cologne, 3 Berlin, 2 Munich?

Do the math. That adds up to 9 days, and it does not account for travel
time.

Side trips can be more time-consuming than seeing the cities and then
going directly between main cities. *Rothernburg is beautiful, but not a
first choice if you would rather be in Berlin.

Bear in mind that the OP was talking about 6 days in Germany and was
thinking of going to Berlin and Munich and seeing the Rhine. It is a 5-6
hour drive from Berlin to Munich, and probably at least as long by
train. He could fly but getting to the airport and hour or two early,
collecting luggage, getting into the city.... it all chews into his
limited time.

But you have to decide which places you really want.

That is why he was given some advice.

Already done Paris so thinking only Belgium/Germany and flying out of
Munich so need to end up there. Other than that and wanting to spend
2-3 days in Belgium, (not sure whether its Brussels or Antwerp with
may be 1 day trip to ?? thrown in) and remainder in Germany, so need
suggestions on how to spend the 3 days in Belgium and top things to do
in Germany on a 5'ish day trip, have to end up in Munich though.

S

On Sep 21, 5:30*pm, Dave Smith wrote:
Sheila Page wrote:
In message , Dave Smith

You're right. Nine days isn't enough time. *Rather than waste what
little time you have on travel you would probably be better off to
pick one destination and perhaps make short trips from there.

If you are starting off in Antwerp you might be better off to scoot up
to the Netherlands or down to Paris.

If you go to Munich you might consider day trips to
Garmish-Partenkirchen, Fussen or Rothernburg ob der Tauber.

You have far too little time to be wasting it on travel days.

Why not let the OP decide: *some people like to see a little of several
places; some prefer a lot of a few.

The OP acknowledged that he knows that it really isn't enough time. That
is why I suggested going to one or the other and making day trips from
there.



Check the Deutsche Bahn website for train times, and see what you can do
taking trains late in the afternoon or early in the morning, to avoid
wasting a day. *Or look at Germanwings or other local airlines: *Cologne
Berlin or Berlin Munich would be about an hour, but add in time to/from
airports etc.

For the Rhine: *a boat trip one way from Cologne, train back would make
a nice day.

2 days Brussels, 2 Cologne, 3 Berlin, 2 Munich?

Do the math. That adds up to 9 days, and it does not account for travel
time.

Side trips can be more time-consuming than seeing the cities and then
going directly between main cities. *Rothernburg is beautiful, but not a
first choice if you would rather be in Berlin.

Bear in mind that the OP was talking about 6 days in Germany and was
thinking of going to Berlin and Munich and seeing the Rhine. It is a 5-6
hour drive from Berlin to Munich, and probably at least as long by
train. He could fly but getting to the airport and hour or two early,
collecting luggage, getting into the city.... it all chews into his
limited time.

But you have to decide which places you really want.

That is why he was given some advice.

PS not done with Paris but have spent 5'ish days so would like to see
some new places. Of course one can go back to Paris forever.

There are high speed trains between Brussels and Cologne. So that would
be a good entry point for Germany from Belgium.

http://cannes-or-bust.com/

Shri wrote:
On Sep 21, 5:30 pm, Dave Smith wrote:
Sheila Page wrote:
In message , Dave Smith
You're right. Nine days isn't enough time. Rather than waste what
little time you have on travel you would probably be better off to
pick one destination and perhaps make short trips from there.
If you are starting off in Antwerp you might be better off to scoot up
to the Netherlands or down to Paris.
If you go to Munich you might consider day trips to
Garmish-Partenkirchen, Fussen or Rothernburg ob der Tauber.
You have far too little time to be wasting it on travel days.
Why not let the OP decide: some people like to see a little of several
places; some prefer a lot of a few.
The OP acknowledged that he knows that it really isn't enough time. That
is why I suggested going to one or the other and making day trips from
there.



Check the Deutsche Bahn website for train times, and see what you can do
taking trains late in the afternoon or early in the morning, to avoid
wasting a day. Or look at Germanwings or other local airlines: Cologne
Berlin or Berlin Munich would be about an hour, but add in time to/from
airports etc.
For the Rhine: a boat trip one way from Cologne, train back would make
a nice day.
2 days Brussels, 2 Cologne, 3 Berlin, 2 Munich?
Do the math. That adds up to 9 days, and it does not account for travel
time.

Side trips can be more time-consuming than seeing the cities and then
going directly between main cities. Rothernburg is beautiful, but not a
first choice if you would rather be in Berlin.
Bear in mind that the OP was talking about 6 days in Germany and was
thinking of going to Berlin and Munich and seeing the Rhine. It is a 5-6
hour drive from Berlin to Munich, and probably at least as long by
train. He could fly but getting to the airport and hour or two early,
collecting luggage, getting into the city.... it all chews into his
limited time.

But you have to decide which places you really want.
That is why he was given some advice.

Already done Paris so thinking only Belgium/Germany and flying out of
Munich so need to end up there. Other than that and wanting to spend
2-3 days in Belgium, (not sure whether its Brussels or Antwerp with
may be 1 day trip to ?? thrown in) and remainder in Germany, so need
suggestions on how to spend the 3 days in Belgium and top things to do
in Germany on a 5'ish day trip, have to end up in Munich though.

S

On 2009-09-22, Shri wrote:

Already done Paris so thinking only Belgium/Germany and flying out of
Munich so need to end up there. Other than that and wanting to spend
2-3 days in Belgium, (not sure whether its Brussels or Antwerp with
may be 1 day trip to ?? thrown in) and remainder in Germany, so need
suggestions on how to spend the 3 days in Belgium and top things to do
in Germany on a 5'ish day trip, have to end up in Munich though.

The best to get an overview of a trip, is not to count in "days", but
in "nights". Write down how many nights at each destination. 3 nights
in one place is 2 full days plus whatever is left on arrival and
departure days.

Travelling times by train:
Brussels - Cologne: 2 hours
Cologne - Berlin: 4 hours, 20 minutes
Berlin - Munich: 6 hours (though many connections are slower)

For Berlin - Munich you could consider flying; look at Air Berlin and
GermanWings for cheap fares.

I would suggest something along the lines of:
Cologne: 1 night (you can see a lot on your arrival day)
Berlin: 3 nights
Munich: 2 nights

If your flight out of Munich is late in the day, consider buying an
all-zones all-day pass to the Munich transport network, and go to one
of the lakes for a couple of hours. The pass is only a few cents more
than the one-way ticket to the airport.

Runge17:
Too little time for Berlin which needs at least 3 days and München which
needs at least 2 days.
Stay around Cologne and visit the Rhine villages, Bonn, Mainz, Trier....
You could even visit the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg or go down as far as
Frankfurt .


I second that. Either you want to see Berlin and Munich, or you do
Cologne, Luxembourg and perhaps Rhine villages on your way to Munich.
In Belgium, I would recommend a day trip to Bruges.

Of course, it depends on what you want to do and/or see (apart from the
beer). Are you into culture and history? Or rather landscapes, walking
and meeting people?
Are you someone who likes to get up early, or do you rather enjoy night
life? Which would you pick if you had to make one: go shopping for 2-3
hours in a medieval town or enjoy a vinyard tour with sampling?


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Erick