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Old December 3rd, 2008, 11:39 AM posted to rec.travel.air
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Default Demand that US presidential electors investigate Obama'seligibility

On Dec 1, 2:02*pm, Kev wrote:
On Dec 1, 6:26*am, wrote:





On Dec 1, 4:51*am, Shawn Hirn wrote:


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wrote:
On Dec 1, 1:26*am, "Bob Myers" wrote:
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Remind your US presidential electors about their constitutional duty
to investigate Obama's eligibility before it's too late and the
economic crisis becomes the least of your problems.


And then, since John McCain was born in the Canal Zone -
which was never U.S. territory - they'd have to investigate
HIS eligibility as well. *So, the only logical deduction we
can make is that you're a Nader supporter, right?


Bob M.


Listen, clown! This is not about McCain. Secondly, McCain never denied
his birth in Panama. Obama insists on being born in Hawaii while being
fully aware that he was not born in Hawaii. This is a fraudulent/
criminal claim. McCain was never hiding his birth place and released
all his birth records.


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Question #1 - *Back in the 60s Hawaii allowed parents to register
their children born outside USA. Now, Hawaii provides computer
printouts called "Certification of Live Birth" and Obama has the same
one and calls it "birth certificate". How do you know if *Obama was
born in Hawaii?


* *I don't. *I also know it doesn't matter. *His mother was 'Merikin
so he
is. *Where he was born was of little concern because he was here when
he turned 18 and quickly established his citizenship.

Question #2 - If Obama was born in Hawaii, how come he never mentioned
the name of his birth place like a hospital name? Does it mean he
cannot pronounce Hawaiian names?


* * Name the first US President born in a hospital. *It may surprise
you.
My wife doesn't know where she was born. *It was somewhere in
Brooklyn but it was not uncommon to be born in midwife facilities
not too far back.


Question #3 - If a federal agency like FBI or Secret Service ever
investigated Obama's original birth records then Obama would be the
first one to tell us. But he never said a word. Hawaii officials never
said a word.


* "Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino says she and
the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally
verified that
the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate."


Do you have a sufficient IQ to actually grasp what this news release
says?

All it says is that Hawaii has "Obama’s original birth certificate".
It does not say anything whether this "Obama’s original birth
certificate" is from Hawaii or Kenya or from Indonesia. Under the
Hawaii laws, a parent could use an original birth certificate from
another country to register a child in Hawaii and get today
"Certification of Live Birth". People actually born in Hawaii do not
get such "Certification of Live Birth", they get another document
with
different name.


Considering all the public pressure on Hawaii officials to confirm
Obama's birth in Hawaii, they would start any response with
confirmation that Obama was born in Hawaii. Instead, they give you
carefully worded garbage so that your low IQ brain can swallow it and
Obama propaganda machine can beat into your worthless brain until you
repeat it like a low IQ moron.


Obama had a background check but not for a natural-born
status. How do you know anybody investigated his birth?


* * Name the last president to have their birth "investigaged".

Oh, and the newspaper of the day: "A birth announcement for
Barack Obama Jr was also published in the Honolulu Advertiseron
13 August 1961, reporting a 4 August 1961 birth date for the child
of Mr. and Mrs. Barack Obama"

Question #4 - Hawaii officials have said that Obama's original
documents are on file without saying Obama was born in Hawaii or any
details.


* Not exactly. *They said they have seen the certificate. *That's
pretty much the end of the story.



The mainstream media have never reported to you their actual
statements. Instead the media has lied to you by saying that Hawaii
officials have verifed his birth. To make it easier on you pick your
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Old December 3rd, 2008, 07:13 PM posted to rec.travel.air
Kev[_4_]
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Default Demand that US presidential electors investigate Obama'seligibility

On Dec 3, 5:39*am, wrote:
On Dec 1, 2:02*pm, Kev wrote:

On Dec 1, 6:26*am, wrote:

[snip]
Question #3 - If a federal agency like FBI or Secret Service ever
investigated Obama's original birth records then Obama would be the
first one to tell us. But he never said a word. Hawaii officials never
said a word.


* "Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino says she and
the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally
verified that
the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate."


Do you have a sufficient IQ to actually grasp what this news release
says?

All it says is that Hawaii has "Obama’s original birth certificate".


IN Hawaii

It does not say anything whether this "Obama’s original birth
certificate" is from Hawaii or Kenya or from Indonesia.


Yes, it does. It clearly lists his place of birth as Hawaii.

Under the
Hawaii laws, a parent could use an original birth certificate from
another country to register a child in Hawaii and get today
"Certification of Live Birth". People actually born in Hawaii do not
get such "Certification of Live Birth", they get another document
with different name.


No, they don't. There is a long form and a short form but one
can only get copies of the short form. When you get a passport,
it lists your place of birth, regardless of your nationality status
or when it was acquired. I know people whose places of birth
are from various european countries. It clearly lists them as
such, yet they are natural born Americans.

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  #13  
Old December 3rd, 2008, 10:26 PM posted to rec.travel.air
Bob Myers
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Default Demand that US presidential electors investigate Obama's eligibility

What is very funny - or at least it would be, were it not so pathetic -
about the recent attempt to bring up the Obama birth certificate myth
once again is simply that at this point, there *can't* be anything to it.
The
GOP just got done spending literally HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS
of dollars trying to defeat Obama - and you don't think that if there
was even the slightest question of this eligibility for the Presidency,
at least a little of that would have been spent to show it and shout it from
every rooftop?

He's the President-elect. On Jan. 20th, he will be sworn in as the
44th President. Deal with it.

Bob M.


  #14  
Old December 4th, 2008, 04:21 AM posted to rec.travel.air
Robert Cohen
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Default Demand that US presidential electors investigate Obama'seligibility

On Dec 3, 1:13*pm, Kev wrote:
On Dec 3, 5:39*am, wrote:





On Dec 1, 2:02*pm, Kev wrote:


On Dec 1, 6:26*am, wrote:

[snip]
Question #3 - If a federal agency like FBI or Secret Service ever
investigated Obama's original birth records then Obama would be the
first one to tell us. But he never said a word. Hawaii officials never
said a word.


* "Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino says she and
the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally
verified that
the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate."


Do you have a sufficient IQ to actually grasp what this news release
says?


All it says is that Hawaii has "Obama’s original birth certificate".


* *IN Hawaii

It does not say anything whether this "Obama’s original birth
certificate" is from Hawaii or Kenya or from Indonesia.


* Yes, it does. *It clearly lists his place of birth as Hawaii.

Under the
Hawaii laws, a parent could use an original birth certificate from
another country to register a child in Hawaii and get today
"Certification of Live Birth". People actually born in Hawaii do not
get such "Certification of Live Birth", they get another document
with different name.


* No, they don't. *There is a long form and a short form but one
can only get copies of the short form. *When you get a passport,
it lists your place of birth, regardless of your nationality status
or when it was acquired. *I know people whose places of birth
are from various european countries. *It clearly lists them as
such, yet they are natural born Americans.

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  #18  
Old December 4th, 2008, 02:33 PM posted to rec.travel.air
Kurt Ullman
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Default Demand that US presidential electors investigate Obama's eligibility

In article ,
"Rog'" wrote:


I'd bet that many of these right-wing nut-jobs would favor a
constitutional amendment so Arnold, the Governator, could
run. Wherever Obama was born, at least he can speak
descipherable English. IMO, the ability to use a voice-
activated telephone menu system should be a requirement.


Not any more. That lad has even managed to give RINOs a bad name...
  #19  
Old December 5th, 2008, 03:19 AM posted to rec.travel.air
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Default Demand that US presidential electors investigate Obama's eligibility

On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 05:32:30 -0500, Kurt Ullman
wrote:


Yeah but then The Conspiracy Theorists would state that McCain's
eligibility was also suspect since he was born in the Panama Canal Zone
where Dad was stationed at the time.


They might say that but it wouldn't be an issue since both of his
parents were adult American citizens when he was born.

  #20  
Old December 6th, 2008, 03:33 PM posted to rec.travel.air
Robert Cohen
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Default Demand that US presidential electors investigate Obama'seligibility

On Dec 5, 11:39*pm, Shawn Hirn wrote:
In article
,





wrote:
On Dec 1, 4:51*am, Shawn Hirn wrote:
In article
,


wrote:
On Dec 1, 1:26*am, "Bob Myers" wrote:
wrote in message


...


Remind your US presidential electors about their constitutional duty
to investigate Obama's eligibility before it's too late and the
economic crisis becomes the least of your problems.


And then, since John McCain was born in the Canal Zone -
which was never U.S. territory - they'd have to investigate
HIS eligibility as well. *So, the only logical deduction we
can make is that you're a Nader supporter, right?


Bob M.


Listen, clown! This is not about McCain. Secondly, McCain never denied
his birth in Panama. Obama insists on being born in Hawaii while being
fully aware that he was not born in Hawaii. This is a fraudulent/
criminal claim. McCain was never hiding his birth place and released
all his birth records.


Obama produced a birth certificate showing his citizenship. End of story.-
Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Question #1 - *Back in the 60s Hawaii allowed parents to register
their children born outside USA. Now, Hawaii provides computer
printouts called "Certification of Live Birth" and Obama has the same
one and calls it "birth certificate". How do you know if *Obama was
born in Hawaii?


The State of Hawaii has certified Obama's birth certificate (including
the copy on his web site). There are also Hawaiian newspapers from
August of 1961, that announced Obama's birth. This is a red herring.

I saw on CNN tonight that Justice Thomas decided to ask all nine Supreme
Court justices to decide if they should hear this case. They're
scheduled to decide on Monday and the odds of them killing the case are
a virtual certainty. Why? The legal definition of a "naturally born
citizen" is nebulous at best. The Supreme Court is also unlikely to undo
the election, especially with such a landslide vote in Obama's favor.- Hide quoted text -

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The definition of "natural born"......hmmmmm...as Justice O.W. Holmes
famously acknowledges, the Supreme
Court decides/defines what legalistic reality is when he says: "The
Constitution is what the Supreme Court says it is,"

George Romney Senior, a good guy circa 1960s, was apparently born in
Mexico and John McCain in a Panama Canal military hospital, and one
can wager a few Democrats would be challenging "natural born" if
situation were reversed
 




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