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In article , RICK DAVIS
wrote: To mass produce a product is also the only way some people can afford beautiful art to enjoy. But when you say its not art your wrong. Your just being a boorish snob. Who are you the Art Police to deem what is art and what isn't? No, just that my definition of art does not include mass produced factory products. Mass production is commodity production done by loborers. It was not created by an artist or craftsman The factory product may very well be beautiful but that does not make it art. My definition of art is that the work is made or crafted by the artist. If you want to call that snobbish so be it. There must some positive aspect to the auctions or they wouldn't be a popular as they are. Sure. It is positive for the cruise line and the auction company. They reap a nice profit from items that are cheap to produce. Popularity doesn't prove anything in itself. As PT. Barnum used to say, there is a sucker born every minute. -- Charles |
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The factory product may very well be beautiful but that does not make
it art. Peanut Charles: The point is to appreciate it. Don't be a dope. I love my original art AND I love my purchases from the various ships. Is one more authentic than the other? Yup. But heck, I even appreciate the frames I have. Don't be such a snobby art whore -- just enjoy. And while someone else might not appreciate art as we do, maybe someone will get a thrill from taking part in the experience of buying art on board. Maybe it will even guide them into going into a real gallery for the first time. Just enjoy your cruises and all they have to offer. Don't be such a petty puss! |
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Got my 2 kinkades for $20.00 bought 2 jig saw puzzlws put them together
and used puzzle saver,framed them and when someone sees them they do not know the difference,unless they get very very close,and we enjoy them just as much as a lithograph of his art (.a cruise lover.) |
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Congratulations Charles on being able to only afford original
masterpieces from great artists. That must be the only art you have hanging in your home. Other wise you have no art. Would you care to list all the great master you have hanging? You are such a snob! You must be a lot of fun to eat dinner with. The only sucker here is you...and your twisted beliefs. If there was any fraud here it would not continue on cruise line after cruise line, ship after ship, year after year. I've proven you wrong and you can't accept it. Now I challenge you to prove fraud as you have claimed. Prove where any of this art is fraud or copies. Or are you just talking out of your blow hole? Every item shown is presented as a copy, collectors portfolio, lithograph, syrolithograph, original, animation cell, sports memorabilia, autograph or sketch (did I forget one). What part of the auction went over your head when your heard everything is a Xerox Copy? Or were you too busy chugging down the free champagne because it free? Give everyone here a break will ya. Next cruise go back to an auction and listen. Then go back to your inside cabin on deck 3 and read the material they give you. Its free...and learn something. Quit talking out out bum hole and pay attention. Then pull that lump of coal out of your butt...it will never turn into a diamond you tight as*. |
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Peanut Charles -
You're really stupid. And you don't make many good points, do you? No, you don't. And you use far too many fragments. |
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"RICK DAVIS" wrote in message ... Congratulations Charles on being able to only afford original masterpieces from great artists. Original doesn't mean masterpiece or great artist. There are many artists who paint wonderful pieces at affordable prices. They even use the sales to pay mortgages, buy food for their families, etc. You don't need to spend millions or even thousands to get a nice original piece. And it's not made in some sweat shop art factory ten thousand copies at a time. The same couple hundred bucks you might spend on a ship can buy an original from a local gallery. --Tom That must be the only art you have hanging in your home. Other wise you have no art. Would you care to list all the great master you have hanging? You are such a snob! You must be a lot of fun to eat dinner with. The only sucker here is you...and your twisted beliefs. If there was any fraud here it would not continue on cruise line after cruise line, ship after ship, year after year. I've proven you wrong and you can't accept it. Now I challenge you to prove fraud as you have claimed. Prove where any of this art is fraud or copies. Or are you just talking out of your blow hole? Every item shown is presented as a copy, collectors portfolio, lithograph, syrolithograph, original, animation cell, sports memorabilia, autograph or sketch (did I forget one). What part of the auction went over your head when your heard everything is a Xerox Copy? Or were you too busy chugging down the free champagne because it free? Give everyone here a break will ya. Next cruise go back to an auction and listen. Then go back to your inside cabin on deck 3 and read the material they give you. Its free...and learn something. Quit talking out out bum hole and pay attention. Then pull that lump of coal out of your butt...it will never turn into a diamond you tight as*. |
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Why would someone who appears to have never posted anywhere before February
3rd and now has a grand total of 9 posts suddenly start calling people names. Charles and I don't always get along, but I would never call him stupid. If your note #10 is as nasty as the last few, I'll never see note #11. -- DG in Cherry Hill, NJ wrote in message oups.com... Peanut Charles - You're really stupid. And you don't make many good points, do you? No, you don't. And you use far too many fragments. |
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"Tom K" wrote in message
... Original doesn't mean masterpiece or great artist. There are many artists who paint wonderful pieces at affordable prices. They even use the sales to pay mortgages, buy food for their families, etc. You don't need to spend millions or even thousands to get a nice original piece. And it's not made in some sweat shop art factory ten thousand copies at a time. The same couple hundred bucks you might spend on a ship can buy an original from a local gallery. --Tom Whatever "art" I had in the house my wife and I shared I gave to my daughter and replaced it with movie posters. When I moved here in 1988 I did my living room in original pastels by unknown artists and one by a guy named Reynolds, whose drawing of a horse was bought by my wife in 1958 and now hangs in my kid's apartment. The den and hallway are Disney classic posters, a Disney cell, and the only thing I have that might be of value, an original MGM poster for "That's Entertainment", and a signed poster by the stars of "Chaplin".. My bedroom is stuff I bought from the Smithsonian when Danni lived in Washington. My point is that art is and should be in the eye of the beholder. If you like it, and it fits, then buy it. Making this post "on topic", I have seen art on ships that I would have brought into my home if I had the room. -- DG in Cherry Hill, NJ |
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On 2/9/06 9:58 AM RICK DAVIS consulted a Magic 8 Ball and declared:
My Thomas Kinkade's were purchased for hundreds less on board than in the local gallery. Many hundreds less. I took the paperwork and bill of sale into my local gallery and was informed by the gallery it was a fantastic deal and they could have never sold me what I bought for at the price I bought for. So its not all smoke and mirrors. Shortly after I bought "Quiet Evening" it sold out. It has increased in value and is a signed & numbered limited edition. You buy art to enjoy. You also invest in a nice frame to accent what you enjoy looking at. Just like you landscape your yard to accent your house. Some people pay more (professional vs. do it yourself) than others.....and its obvious. All well and good if you happen to like the work of a "paint-by-numbers" artist. Kinkade is Andy Warhol's pop-art with sentiment. Mass produced. -- ________ To email me, Edit "blog" from my email address. Brian M. Kochera "Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once!" View My Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951 |
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