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Old April 6th, 2005, 12:08 AM
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Old April 6th, 2005, 01:59 AM
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This will apply to Canadians at the END of 2006. In addition, US citizens
will need their US passport to get back into the USA!

Perhaps it will be a requirement (by the Canadian government) for US
citizens to show their passport for entry into Canada - no more "special
treatment for US citizens.

Such is life in a post 9/11 world :-( Just another piece of paper to carry.
I used to just carry paper money while crossing between Canada and the USA -
now I carry plastic and my passport ;-) Crossing is still uneventful - and
why not IF you are trouble-free?

Ken
Winnipeg, Canada
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Old April 6th, 2005, 01:59 AM
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This will apply to Canadians at the END of 2006. In addition, US citizens
will need their US passport to get back into the USA!

Perhaps it will be a requirement (by the Canadian government) for US
citizens to show their passport for entry into Canada - no more "special
treatment for US citizens.

Such is life in a post 9/11 world :-( Just another piece of paper to carry.
I used to just carry paper money while crossing between Canada and the USA -
now I carry plastic and my passport ;-) Crossing is still uneventful - and
why not IF you are trouble-free?

Ken
Winnipeg, Canada
news wrote:

http://www.macleans.ca/topstories/po...sp?content=n04
0579A


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Old April 6th, 2005, 08:28 AM
Gary L. Dare
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Ken Pisichko wrote:

This will apply to Canadians at the END of 2006. In addition, US citizens
will need their US passport to get back into the USA!

Perhaps it will be a requirement (by the Canadian government) for US
citizens to show their passport for entry into Canada - no more "special
treatment for US citizens.



This shouldn't be marketed by Ottawa as "retaliatory" but as supportive ...
after all, those Americans admitted without a passport would be unable to
get home without a protracted hassle since all passport processing is now
done within the US. Lose a passport abroad and you're given a permit to
get home (happened to a colleague in Paris last year).

Such is life in a post 9/11 world :-( Just another piece of paper to carry.



Right idea but, if you've travelled through a US airport, bad
implementation.
The right answer would be negotiating a security perimeter, at least with
Canada and Bermuda (so many rich Americans live there, it's not funny).

While a US passport proves that you are an American citizen, it doesn't
prove that you aren't a terrorist. Zarqawi's key aide was found to be a
naturalized US citizen ...

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/...ide/index.html

And the recruiter of Jose Padilla turns out to be a Washington, DC
public schools superintendent!

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7340464/site/newsweek/

Among 'born' Americans, there is Timothy McVie ... or Ryan Anderson,
a WA National Guardsmen who tried selling his deployment orders on
jihadi websites online ...

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/09/01/so...ted/index.html

gld

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Old April 6th, 2005, 08:28 AM
Gary L. Dare
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Ken Pisichko wrote:

This will apply to Canadians at the END of 2006. In addition, US citizens
will need their US passport to get back into the USA!

Perhaps it will be a requirement (by the Canadian government) for US
citizens to show their passport for entry into Canada - no more "special
treatment for US citizens.



This shouldn't be marketed by Ottawa as "retaliatory" but as supportive ...
after all, those Americans admitted without a passport would be unable to
get home without a protracted hassle since all passport processing is now
done within the US. Lose a passport abroad and you're given a permit to
get home (happened to a colleague in Paris last year).

Such is life in a post 9/11 world :-( Just another piece of paper to carry.



Right idea but, if you've travelled through a US airport, bad
implementation.
The right answer would be negotiating a security perimeter, at least with
Canada and Bermuda (so many rich Americans live there, it's not funny).

While a US passport proves that you are an American citizen, it doesn't
prove that you aren't a terrorist. Zarqawi's key aide was found to be a
naturalized US citizen ...

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/...ide/index.html

And the recruiter of Jose Padilla turns out to be a Washington, DC
public schools superintendent!

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7340464/site/newsweek/

Among 'born' Americans, there is Timothy McVie ... or Ryan Anderson,
a WA National Guardsmen who tried selling his deployment orders on
jihadi websites online ...

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/09/01/so...ted/index.html

gld

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Old April 6th, 2005, 08:28 AM
Gary L. Dare
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Ken Pisichko wrote:

This will apply to Canadians at the END of 2006. In addition, US citizens
will need their US passport to get back into the USA!

Perhaps it will be a requirement (by the Canadian government) for US
citizens to show their passport for entry into Canada - no more "special
treatment for US citizens.



This shouldn't be marketed by Ottawa as "retaliatory" but as supportive ...
after all, those Americans admitted without a passport would be unable to
get home without a protracted hassle since all passport processing is now
done within the US. Lose a passport abroad and you're given a permit to
get home (happened to a colleague in Paris last year).

Such is life in a post 9/11 world :-( Just another piece of paper to carry.



Right idea but, if you've travelled through a US airport, bad
implementation.
The right answer would be negotiating a security perimeter, at least with
Canada and Bermuda (so many rich Americans live there, it's not funny).

While a US passport proves that you are an American citizen, it doesn't
prove that you aren't a terrorist. Zarqawi's key aide was found to be a
naturalized US citizen ...

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/...ide/index.html

And the recruiter of Jose Padilla turns out to be a Washington, DC
public schools superintendent!

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7340464/site/newsweek/

Among 'born' Americans, there is Timothy McVie ... or Ryan Anderson,
a WA National Guardsmen who tried selling his deployment orders on
jihadi websites online ...

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/09/01/so...ted/index.html

gld

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Old April 6th, 2005, 04:50 PM
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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 19:59:07 -0500, Ken Pisichko wrote:
This will apply to Canadians at the END of 2006. In addition, US citizens
will need their US passport to get back into the USA!


I'd like to know WTF they're going to do to U.S. citizens returning to the
U.S. without a passport. Make them refuges? Send them to Guantanimo for
life?
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Old April 6th, 2005, 10:54 PM
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On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:50:11 -0500, TCS
wrote:

On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 19:59:07 -0500, Ken Pisichko wrote:
This will apply to Canadians at the END of 2006. In addition, US citizens
will need their US passport to get back into the USA!


I'd like to know WTF they're going to do to U.S. citizens returning to the
U.S. without a passport. Make them refuges? Send them to Guantanimo for
life?


Personally I don't think they will be able to implemet their timeline.
Less than 20% of US citizens have or have had a passport and unless
they pour tons of money into the passport offices they will never be
able to keep up with the demand
Then again, so many US citizens don't ever consider travelling outside
of their own country, that perhaps it will be a non event.
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Old April 6th, 2005, 11:21 PM
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Americans will also need a passport to come to Canada.




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On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:50:11 -0500, TCS
wrote:

On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 19:59:07 -0500, Ken Pisichko wrote:
This will apply to Canadians at the END of 2006. In addition, US

citizens
will need their US passport to get back into the USA!


I'd like to know WTF they're going to do to U.S. citizens returning to

the
U.S. without a passport. Make them refuges? Send them to Guantanimo for
life?


Personally I don't think they will be able to implemet their timeline.
Less than 20% of US citizens have or have had a passport and unless
they pour tons of money into the passport offices they will never be
able to keep up with the demand
Then again, so many US citizens don't ever consider travelling outside
of their own country, that perhaps it will be a non event.



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Old April 6th, 2005, 11:21 PM
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Americans will also need a passport to come to Canada.




wrote in message
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On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:50:11 -0500, TCS
wrote:

On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 19:59:07 -0500, Ken Pisichko wrote:
This will apply to Canadians at the END of 2006. In addition, US

citizens
will need their US passport to get back into the USA!


I'd like to know WTF they're going to do to U.S. citizens returning to

the
U.S. without a passport. Make them refuges? Send them to Guantanimo for
life?


Personally I don't think they will be able to implemet their timeline.
Less than 20% of US citizens have or have had a passport and unless
they pour tons of money into the passport offices they will never be
able to keep up with the demand
Then again, so many US citizens don't ever consider travelling outside
of their own country, that perhaps it will be a non event.



 




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