Point to point vs savers pass (2 months with 14 days) Europe

I'm about to take a 3 months trip to europe with my bf. Our itenary
starts in this order:
1) spain (madrid, toledo lisbon, sevilla, cordoba, granada, valencia
visit family, balcelona)-
2) provence france (3 days)-
3) italy (1 month cinque terre, lake como, vinece, florence, siena,
day trips trought out hill towns, rome, civiata, sorrento, day trips
around sorrento, and sicilli)-
4) germany munich(2 days)-
5) holand amsterdam (2 days)-
6) belgium bruge( 2days)-
7) paris and surrounding area (3 days)- france Loire(2 days)-
8) spain pamplona and basque country (3 weeks spend with bf's family,
after that we will visit segovia, avila,cuenca and back to madrid)

My question is, given my itenary, is it more economical to get point
to point tickets? or get somekind of pass like savers pass for 2
months with 14 days??

its really hard to find out exactly how much the tickets cost. i try :
http://bahn.hafas.de/bin/query.exe/en , althought they have detail
schedules, they don't have prices for many local train routes.

Could anyone give me any suggestion?

thanks

Amanda

(Amanda) wrote in message . com...
I'm about to take a 3 months trip to europe with my bf. Our itenary
starts in this order:
1) spain (madrid, toledo lisbon, sevilla, cordoba, granada, valencia
visit family, balcelona)-
2) provence france (3 days)-
3) italy (1 month cinque terre, lake como, vinece, florence, siena,
day trips trought out hill towns, rome, civiata, sorrento, day trips
around sorrento, and sicilli)-
4) germany munich(2 days)-
5) holand amsterdam (2 days)-
6) belgium bruge( 2days)-
7) paris and surrounding area (3 days)- france Loire(2 days)-
8) spain pamplona and basque country (3 weeks spend with bf's family,
after that we will visit segovia, avila,cuenca and back to madrid)

My question is, given my itenary, is it more economical to get point
to point tickets? or get somekind of pass like savers pass for 2
months with 14 days??

The pass might make sense in your case, since cost of the cross-border
trips will add up very quickly. (Trips within Italy and Spain are
mostly inexpensive.)

its really hard to find out exactly how much the tickets cost. i try :
http://bahn.hafas.de/bin/query.exe/en , althought they have detail
schedules, they don't have prices for many local train routes.

Could anyone give me any suggestion?

http://www.raileurope.com/us/rail/fa...ules/index.htm

On 26 Apr 2004 22:37:23 -0700 Amanda said...

My question is, given my itenary, is it more economical to get point
to point tickets? or get somekind of pass like savers pass for 2
months with 14 days??

its really hard to find out exactly how much the tickets cost. i try :
http://bahn.hafas.de/bin/query.exe/en , althought they have detail
schedules, they don't have prices for many local train routes.

Could anyone give me any suggestion?

For fares it's best to look at the sites of the national railways
concerned:

Spain: http://horarios.renfe.es/hir/ingles.html
France & International routes to/from France: http://www.voyages-sncf.com
Italy: http://www.trenitalia.com/home/en/index.htm
Belgium: http://www.b-rail.be/rnvn/E/formul/index.html

The German site should give you some fares to/from Germany as well as all
internal ones.

Hope this helps.

--
Phil Richards
London, UK
Home page: http://www.philrichards1.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk

On 27 Apr 2004 05:09:37 -0700 Iceman said...

Could anyone give me any suggestion?

http://www.raileurope.com/us/rail/fa...ules/index.htm

Agree a doddle to get fares quick and easy but they're only in USD at
rather much more (double?) than the rates you pay locally in EUR.

--
Phil Richards
London, UK
Home page: http://www.philrichards1.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk

My question is, given my itenary, is it more economical to get point
to point tickets?

The Rick Steves site is great for this. He has maps for both longer
European stretches as far as individual country stretches that shows a
ballpark price in U.S. dollars. If it's even close, I would get a
pass--particularly if a 1st class pass is close in price to the individual
2nd class fares you see quoted at the site. His quotes are, of course,
very approximate, but if it's close--the pass can be worth it just to save
hassles.
http://www.ricksteves.com/rail/howrailworks.htm