NewYorkTimes: EUROPE IS GOING BROKE:

NewYorkTimes: EUROPE IS GOING BROKE:

"Even Europe’s best-performing large country, Germany, is about 20
percent poorer than the U.S. on a per-person basis (and both countries
have roughly 15 percent of their populations living below the poverty
line). While Norway and Sweden are richer than the U.S., on average,
they are more comparable to wealthy American microeconomies like
Washington, D.C., or parts of Connecticut — both of which are actually
considerably wealthier. A reporter in Greece once complained after I
compared her country to Mississippi, America’s poorest state. She’s
right: the comparison isn’t fair. The average Mississippian is richer
than the average Greek.

Europe is undergoing not one but two simultaneous economic crises. The
first is a rapid, obvious one — all about sovereign debt, a collapsing
currency and austerity measures — that we hear about all the time. The
second is insidious but more important....."

I bet we live better than you, trailer man.

"PJ דובי" a écrit dans le message de groupe de discussion :
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NewYorkTimes: EUROPE IS GOING BROKE:

"Even Europe’s best-performing large country, Germany, is about 20
percent poorer than the U.S. on a per-person basis (and both countries
have roughly 15 percent of their populations living below the poverty
line). While Norway and Sweden are richer than the U.S., on average,
they are more comparable to wealthy American microeconomies like
Washington, D.C., or parts of Connecticut — both of which are actually
considerably wealthier. A reporter in Greece once complained after I
compared her country to Mississippi, America’s poorest state. She’s
right: the comparison isn’t fair. The average Mississippian is richer
than the average Greek.

Europe is undergoing not one but two simultaneous economic crises. The
first is a rapid, obvious one — all about sovereign debt, a collapsing
currency and austerity measures — that we hear about all the time. The
second is insidious but more important....."

PJ ???? wrote:

NewYorkTimes: EUROPE IS GOING BROKE:

"Even Europe’s best-performing large country, Germany, is about 20
percent poorer than the U.S. on a per-person basis (and both countries
have roughly 15 percent of their populations living below the poverty
line). While Norway and Sweden are richer than the U.S., on average,
they are more comparable to wealthy American microeconomies like
Washington, D.C., or parts of Connecticut — both of which are actually
considerably wealthier. A reporter in Greece once complained after I
compared her country to Mississippi, America’s poorest state. She’s
right: the comparison isn’t fair. The average Mississippian is richer
than the average Greek.

Europe is undergoing not one but two simultaneous economic crises. The
first is a rapid, obvious one — all about sovereign debt, a collapsing
currency and austerity measures — that we hear about all the time. The
second is insidious but more important....."

We can't be consistent with 7 billion; what will it be like
with 8 or 9 or 10 billion?

On 01/07/2012 04:40 PM, PJ דובי wrote:
NewYorkTimes: EUROPE IS GOING BROKE:

"Even Europe’s best-performing large country, Germany, is about 20
percent poorer than the U.S. on a per-person basis (and both countries
have roughly 15 percent of their populations living below the poverty
line). While Norway and Sweden are richer than the U.S., on average,
they are more comparable to wealthy American microeconomies like
Washington, D.C., or parts of Connecticut — both of which are actually
considerably wealthier. A reporter in Greece once complained after I
compared her country to Mississippi, America’s poorest state. She’s
right: the comparison isn’t fair. The average Mississippian is richer
than the average Greek.


World health statistics, world rankings:
Life expectancy in years, male
San Marino 82 ranking #1
Greece 78 ranking #18
United States of America 76 ranking #39

Life expectancy in years, female
Japan 86 ranking #1
Greece 83 ranking #17
United States of America 81 ranking #34

Under-five mortality per 1000 live births
San Marino 2 ranking #1
Greece 3 ranking #10
United States of America 8 ranking #45

Prison population per 100,000 (world rankings unknown due to incomplete
statistics)
United States of America 686
Greece 79
Iceland 38


Europe is undergoing not one but two simultaneous economic crises. The
first is a rapid, obvious one — all about sovereign debt, a collapsing
currency and austerity measures — that we hear about all the time. The
second is insidious but more important....."

On Jan 8, 1:57Â*pm, Tom P wrote:
On 01/07/2012 04:40 PM, PJ דובי wrote:

NewYorkTimes: EUROPE IS GOING BROKE:

"Even Europe’s best-performing large country, Germany, is about 20
percent poorer than the U.S. on a per-person basis (and both countries
have roughly 15 percent of their populations living below the poverty
line). While Norway and Sweden are richer than the U.S., on average,
they are more comparable to wealthy American microeconomies like
Washington, D.C., or parts of Connecticut — both of which are actually
considerably wealthier. A reporter in Greece once complained after I
compared her country to Mississippi, America’s poorest state. She’s
right: the comparison isn’t fair. The average Mississippian is richer
than the average Greek.







Europe is undergoing not one but two simultaneous economic crises. The
first is a rapid, obvious one — all about sovereign debt, a collapsing
currency and austerity measures — that we hear about all the time. The
s








World health statistics, world rankings:
Life expectancy in years, male
San Marino Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â*82 ranking #1
Greece Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â*78 ranking #18
United States of America Â* Â* Â* Â*76 ranking #39

Life expectancy in years, female
Japan Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* 86 ranking #1
Greece Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â*83 ranking #17
United States of America Â* Â* Â* Â*81 ranking #34


You are using too broad a brush

wiki Life expectancy

"...countries with African populations have generally not had the same
improvements in mortality rates that have been enjoyed by populations
of Asian, Latin American or European origin. Notably, even in
countries with a majority of European people, such as the United
States, Britain, or Ireland, African people still tend to have shorter
life expectancies than their European counterparts. For example, in
the United States, Euro-Americans are expected to live until age 78.2,
but African Americans only until age 73.6.[33]

In contrast, Asian-Americans live the longest of all ethnic groups in
the United States, with a life expectancy of 87 years,..."




Under-five mortality per 1000 live births
San Marino Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â*2 ranking #1
Greece Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â*3 ranking #10
United States of America Â* Â* Â* Â*8 ranking #45


Center For Disease Control

"...The important role of lifestyle factors in determining infant
mortality risk has gained added recognition through the study of the
health experience of many Hispanic groups, which has challenged a
strict socioeconomic approach to explaining race/ethnic differentials
in infant mortality (Williams and Collins, 1995). The Hispanic
population is characterized by birth outcomes that are more similar to
the non-Hispanic white population than to the African American
population, with whom they share similar socioeconomic risk profiles.
As a result, the more favorable birth outcomes of Hispanics, and in
particular the foreign-born component of the Hispanic population, are
largely attributed to positive cultural/behavioral practices (Scribner
and Dwyer, 1989; Weeks and Rumbaut, 1991; Scribner, 1996). It is
argued that several Hispanic subpopulations may be able to
successfully limit
the harmful effects of their disadvantaged socioeconomic position in
the U.S. through salutary, culturally based behavior such as a healthy
diet and low rates of substance use (Rumbaut and Weeks, 1996). For
this reason, socioeconomic factors may not be as important in
determining
infant mortality risk in populations that are able to buffer the
deleterious consequences attached to a disadvantaged social position.

Conversely, without strong, culturally based support systems to
counteract socioeconomic disadvantages, many economically
disadvantaged women may resort to harmful stress reduction behaviors
such as
cigarette smoking and substance use (Scribner and Dwyer, 1989; James,
1993)...."

Source: 2000-2002 data, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention,
National Center for Health Statistics, National Vital Statistics
System, Linked Birth/Infant Death Data Set

Obesity and African Americans - The Office of Minority Health

"African American women have the highest rates of being overweight or
obese compared to other groups in the U.S. About four out of five
African American women are overweight or obese.1

In 2007, African Americans were 1.4 times as likely to be obese as
Non- Hispanic Whites.

From 2003-2006, African American women were 70% more likely to be
obese than Non-Hispanic White women.

In 2003-2004, African American children between ages 6 -17 were 1.3
times as likely to be overweight than Non-Hispanic Whites."
source:

www.omhrc.gov/templates/content.aspx?ID=6456

OTOH statistics have established that African American males have
comparable incidences of obesity with white non hispanic males.

Many black males I know prefer big women and black women do tend to
comply.




Prison population per 100,000 (world rankings unknown due to incomplete
statistics)
United States of America Â* Â* Â* Â*686
Greece Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â*79
Iceland Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* 38


"The relationship between race and crime in the United States has been
a topic of public controversy and scholarly debate for more than a
century.[1

....The racial composition of the US population as of 2008 was 79.79%
White American (65.60% non-Hispanic and 14.19% Hispanic), 12.84%
African American (12.22% non-Hispanic and 0.62%

.....In 2008 approximately one in every 31 adults (7.3 million) in the
United States was behind bars, or being monitored (probation and
parole). In 2008 the breakdown for adults under correctional control
was as follows: one out of 18 men, one in 89 women, one in 11 African-
Americans (9.2 percent), one in 27 Latinos (3.7 percent), and one in
45 whites (2.2 percent)....."










wiki

It is not wise nor kind to rejoice that other countries are facing financial
problems. This crisis affects the entire world including the USA.
Let's instead hope that we all can work together for a solution to make this
economy better. Spending more than we earn is a problem in all countries.

--Jean



"PJ ????" wrote in message
...
NewYorkTimes: EUROPE IS GOING BROKE:

"Even Europe’s best-performing large country, Germany, is about 20
percent poorer than the U.S. on a per-person basis (and both countries
have roughly 15 percent of their populations living below the poverty
line). While Norway and Sweden are richer than the U.S., on average,
they are more comparable to wealthy American microeconomies like
Washington, D.C., or parts of Connecticut — both of which are actually
considerably wealthier. A reporter in Greece once complained after I
compared her country to Mississippi, America’s poorest state. She’s
right: the comparison isn’t fair. The average Mississippian is richer
than the average Greek.

Europe is undergoing not one but two simultaneous economic crises. The
first is a rapid, obvious one — all about sovereign debt, a collapsing
currency and austerity measures — that we hear about all the time. The
second is insidious but more important....."

On 01/23/2012 06:21 PM, Jean O'Boyle wrote:
It is not wise nor kind to rejoice that other countries are facing financial
problems.

Especially when the USA was the country that created the crisis.

This crisis affects the entire world including the USA.
Let's instead hope that we all can work together for a solution to make this
economy better. Spending more than we earn is a problem in all countries.

--Jean



"PJ wrote in message
...
NewYorkTimes: EUROPE IS GOING BROKE:

"Even Europe’s best-performing large country, Germany, is about 20
percent poorer than the U.S. on a per-person basis (and both countries
have roughly 15 percent of their populations living below the poverty
line). While Norway and Sweden are richer than the U.S., on average,
they are more comparable to wealthy American microeconomies like
Washington, D.C., or parts of Connecticut — both of which are actually
considerably wealthier. A reporter in Greece once complained after I
compared her country to Mississippi, America’s poorest state. She’s
right: the comparison isn’t fair. The average Mississippian is richer
than the average Greek.

Europe is undergoing not one but two simultaneous economic crises. The
first is a rapid, obvious one — all about sovereign debt, a collapsing
currency and austerity measures — that we hear about all the time. The
second is insidious but more important....."

On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 11:21:50 -0600, Jean O'Boyle wrote:

"Even EuropeÂ’s best-performing large country, Germany, is about 20
percent poorer than the U.S. on a per-person basis (and both countries
have roughly 15 percent of their populations living below the poverty
line). While Norway and Sweden are richer than the U.S., on average,

FMI 2010

1. Luxembourg 108,831 USD/person
2. Norway 84,443 USD/person
4. Switzerland 67,245 USD/person
6. Denmark 56,147 USD/person
8. Sweden 48,874 USD/person
9. United States 47,283 USD/person
10. Netherlands 47,172 USD/person
11. Canada 46,214 USD/person
12. Eire 46,688 USD/person
13. Austria 44,986 USD/person
14. Finland 44,488 USD/person
17. Belgium 42,630
18. France 41,018
19. Germany 40,631

In five European countries the GNI per inhabitant is greater than in the
US, Luxembourg +129%, Sweden +3%, Other countries are not so far away
behind Netherlands -0.1%, Belgium -10%, Germany -14%

There are less American tourists each year, they are more and more
superseded in number by Asians.

Wrong attribution....I did not post the below. It was posted by
PJ ????

--Jean

"Paul Aubrin" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 11:21:50 -0600, Jean O'Boyle wrote:

"Even Europe’s best-performing large country, Germany, is about 20
percent poorer than the U.S. on a per-person basis (and both countries
have roughly 15 percent of their populations living below the poverty
line). While Norway and Sweden are richer than the U.S., on average,

FMI 2010

1. Luxembourg 108,831 USD/person
2. Norway 84,443 USD/person
4. Switzerland 67,245 USD/person
6. Denmark 56,147 USD/person
8. Sweden 48,874 USD/person
9. United States 47,283 USD/person
10. Netherlands 47,172 USD/person
11. Canada 46,214 USD/person
12. Eire 46,688 USD/person
13. Austria 44,986 USD/person
14. Finland 44,488 USD/person
17. Belgium 42,630
18. France 41,018
19. Germany 40,631

In five European countries the GNI per inhabitant is greater than in the
US, Luxembourg +129%, Sweden +3%, Other countries are not so far away
behind Netherlands -0.1%, Belgium -10%, Germany -14%

There are less American tourists each year, they are more and more
superseded in number by Asians.