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Old March 13th, 2014, 02:23 PM posted to alt.home.repair,rec.travel.air,misc.consumers
Home Guy
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Default MH370 - have they checked all passengers for flying experience,military service?

I wonder if they've done a background check of all passengers in terms
of flying experience, flight training, military service...

They need to publish the list of passengers - so the internet can do a
"crowd-source" background check and possibly they get some useful info
that wouldn't or didn't turn up using their normal investigative
methods.

It would have been useful (although somewhat creepy) to get a mug-shot
at the boarding gate of each passenger as they have their tickets
scanned and photo-id checked. The photo's don't need to be coordinated
with name or any text input, and the camera's memory card is only 1 or 2
gb and just gets recycled (uses same memory over and over again, new
pictures over-writing old ones). The only info that goes with each
picture is the time/date stamp.

When an incident happens, authorities go to the gate and pull the memory
card out of the camera. Otherwise, the camera is not connected to
network, is not accessible and therefore can't be tampered with,
pictures stolen or hacked, etc.

Release the pictures along with the name they think belongs to each
photo to the public.

Let the public weigh in on whether or not the info is correct, and
anything of interest about each person (ie - attended but flunked out of
flying school, former navy seal, CIA contractor, huge gambling debt,
recently obtained life insurance policy, divorced / lost custody of
kids, etc).
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Old March 13th, 2014, 02:37 PM posted to alt.home.repair,rec.travel.air,misc.consumers
Kurt Ullman
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Default MH370 - have they checked all passengers for flying experience, military service?

In article , Home Guy "Home"@Guy. com
wrote:

It would have been useful (although somewhat creepy) to get a mug-shot
at the boarding gate of each passenger as they have their tickets
scanned and photo-id checked. The photo's don't need to be coordinated
with name or any text input, and the camera's memory card is only 1 or 2
gb and just gets recycled (uses same memory over and over again, new
pictures over-writing old ones). The only info that goes with each
picture is the time/date stamp.


They would (and do) have the security cameras and the airline's
computers I would think would have the time when the boarding pass was
scanned. Easy Peasy.


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but what they conceal is vital."
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Old March 13th, 2014, 05:07 PM posted to alt.home.repair,rec.travel.air,misc.consumers
Adam Kubias
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Default MH370 - have they checked all passengers for flying experience,military service?

On 2014-03-13 9:23 AM, Home Guy wrote:
I wonder if they've done a background check of all passengers in terms
of flying experience, flight training, military service...

They need to publish the list of passengers - so the internet can do a
"crowd-source" background check and possibly they get some useful info
that wouldn't or didn't turn up using their normal investigative
methods.

It would have been useful (although somewhat creepy) to get a mug-shot
at the boarding gate of each passenger as they have their tickets
scanned and photo-id checked. The photo's don't need to be coordinated
with name or any text input, and the camera's memory card is only 1 or 2
gb and just gets recycled (uses same memory over and over again, new
pictures over-writing old ones). The only info that goes with each
picture is the time/date stamp.

When an incident happens, authorities go to the gate and pull the memory
card out of the camera. Otherwise, the camera is not connected to
network, is not accessible and therefore can't be tampered with,
pictures stolen or hacked, etc.

Release the pictures along with the name they think belongs to each
photo to the public.

Let the public weigh in on whether or not the info is correct, and
anything of interest about each person (ie - attended but flunked out of
flying school, former navy seal, CIA contractor, huge gambling debt,
recently obtained life insurance policy, divorced / lost custody of
kids, etc).

The American media has spun this into a story of a terrorist attack by
focusing on the stolen passports. What percentage of Malaysia-China
flight don't have passengers using false passports? Probably 50%, its
not a big deal. Its how SE asians get around since if you use a
Phillipino passport (for example) then you can't get a visa in any country.

Just take a chill pill, Yankees. Believe or not, I feel safer knowing
that every American citizen does not have NSA-style access to my
personal information - whether or not I'm on a missing plane.


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Old March 13th, 2014, 05:23 PM posted to alt.home.repair,rec.travel.air,misc.consumers
Oren[_2_]
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Default MH370 - have they checked all passengers for flying experience, military service?

On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 12:07:08 -0400, Adam Kubias
wrote:

The American media has spun this into a story of a terrorist attack by
focusing on the stolen passports. What percentage of Malaysia-China
flight don't have passengers using false passports? Probably 50%, its
not a big deal. Its how SE asians get around since if you use a
Phillipino passport (for example) then you can't get a visa in any country.


No. We have just not ruled out a terrorist attack. That would silly
at this point, before the truth is known.

Just take a chill pill, Yankees. Believe or not, I feel safer knowing
that every American citizen does not have NSA-style access to my
personal information - whether or not I'm on a missing plane.


You do live in Niagara Falls, Canada, right?
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Old March 13th, 2014, 05:31 PM posted to alt.home.repair,rec.travel.air,misc.consumers
Bob F
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Default MH370 - have they checked all passengers for flying experience, military service?

Adam Kubias wrote:
The American media has spun this into a story of a terrorist attack by
focusing on the stolen passports. What percentage of Malaysia-China
flight don't have passengers using false passports? Probably 50%, its
not a big deal. Its how SE asians get around since if you use a
Phillipino passport (for example) then you can't get a visa in any
country.
Just take a chill pill, Yankees. Believe or not, I feel safer knowing
that every American citizen does not have NSA-style access to my
personal information - whether or not I'm on a missing plane.


So the fact that the plane was hundreds of miles off course when last seen
doesn't make you think terrorist?


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Old March 13th, 2014, 07:03 PM posted to alt.home.repair,rec.travel.air,misc.consumers
Adam Kubias
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Default MH370 - have they checked all passengers for flying experience,military service?

On 2014-03-13 12:23 PM, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 12:07:08 -0400, Adam Kubias
wrote:

The American media has spun this into a story of a terrorist attack by
focusing on the stolen passports. What percentage of Malaysia-China
flight don't have passengers using false passports? Probably 50%, its
not a big deal. Its how SE asians get around since if you use a
Phillipino passport (for example) then you can't get a visa in any country.


No. We have just not ruled out a terrorist attack. That would silly
at this point, before the truth is known.

Just take a chill pill, Yankees. Believe or not, I feel safer knowing
that every American citizen does not have NSA-style access to my
personal information - whether or not I'm on a missing plane.


You do live in Niagara Falls, Canada, right?


Yes, but do you know my passport number?
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Old March 13th, 2014, 07:07 PM posted to alt.home.repair,rec.travel.air,misc.consumers
Oren[_2_]
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Default MH370 - have they checked all passengers for flying experience, military service?

On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 14:03:50 -0400, Adam Kubias
wrote:

On 2014-03-13 12:23 PM, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 12:07:08 -0400, Adam Kubias
wrote:

The American media has spun this into a story of a terrorist attack by
focusing on the stolen passports. What percentage of Malaysia-China
flight don't have passengers using false passports? Probably 50%, its
not a big deal. Its how SE asians get around since if you use a
Phillipino passport (for example) then you can't get a visa in any country.


No. We have just not ruled out a terrorist attack. That would silly
at this point, before the truth is known.

Just take a chill pill, Yankees. Believe or not, I feel safer knowing
that every American citizen does not have NSA-style access to my
personal information - whether or not I'm on a missing plane.


You do live in Niagara Falls, Canada, right?


Yes, but do you know my passport number?


No yet.
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Old March 14th, 2014, 07:00 AM posted to alt.home.repair,rec.travel.air,misc.consumers
Gordon Burditt[_13_]
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Default MH370 - have they checked all passengers for flying experience, military service?

The American media has spun this into a story of a terrorist attack by
focusing on the stolen passports. What percentage of Malaysia-China
flight don't have passengers using false passports? Probably 50%, its
not a big deal. Its how SE asians get around since if you use a
Phillipino passport (for example) then you can't get a visa in any country.


I thought they quit mentioning stolen passports a couple of days
ago (Dec 11), since they announced that they had tracked the people
using them to be people seeking asylum, not terrorists.

Just take a chill pill, Yankees. Believe or not, I feel safer knowing
that every American citizen does not have NSA-style access to my
personal information - whether or not I'm on a missing plane.


I am still suspicious of terrorists or what used to be called
"hijackers" (with the usual destination for USA hijacked planes
being Cuba, since there wasn't another legal way to get there.)
The current theories seem to involve the plane taking a rather
radical change from its planned course. What explains that?
Hijacking or terrorism does, not necessarily having anything to do
with stolen passports. What else? It's a bit early in the
investigation to rule out terrorism.
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Old March 15th, 2014, 10:34 AM posted to alt.home.repair,rec.travel.air,misc.consumers
micky
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Default MH370 - have they checked all passengers for flying experience, military service?

On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 01:00:48 -0500, (Gordon
Burditt) wrote:

The American media has spun this into a story of a terrorist attack by
focusing on the stolen passports. What percentage of Malaysia-China


They focused on the stolen passports, but only said terrorism was a
possibility. There are btw two kinds of terrorists, those affiliated
with a bigger group, and those out for some fun of their own.

Who is turning things off in the plane and redirecting it if not a
terrorist. Oh, maybe a rogue pilot. That would be sub-category 2-a of
terrorist.

flight don't have passengers using false passports? Probably 50%, its
not a big deal. Its how SE asians get around since if you use a
Phillipino passport (for example) then you can't get a visa in any country.


I thought they quit mentioning stolen passports a couple of days
ago (Dec 11), since they announced that they had tracked the people
using them to be people seeking asylum, not terrorists.

Just take a chill pill, Yankees. Believe or not, I feel safer knowing
that every American citizen does not have NSA-style access to my
personal information - whether or not I'm on a missing plane.


I am still suspicious of terrorists or what used to be called
"hijackers" (with the usual destination for USA hijacked planes
being Cuba, since there wasn't another legal way to get there.)


Couldn't they go to Mexico and from there to Cuba. Maybe they didnt'
know that? Or maybe Mexico cooperated with the US and wouldn't let
them?

The current theories seem to involve the plane taking a rather
radical change from its planned course. What explains that?
Hijacking or terrorism does, not necessarily having anything to do
with stolen passports. What else? It's a bit early in the
investigation to rule out terrorism.


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Old March 15th, 2014, 11:16 AM posted to alt.home.repair,rec.travel.air,misc.consumers
nam sak
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Default MH370 - have they checked all passengers for flying experience, military service?

You sound about as well informed as the Malaysians.

It had enough fuel to maybe get to India.

For Cuba or Mexico they would have needed a connecting flight.



Couldn't they go to Mexico and from there to Cuba. Maybe they didnt'
know that? Or maybe Mexico cooperated with the US and wouldn't let
them?

 




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