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US-born California man on No Fly List forced to re-enter USA - on foot!



 
 
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Old June 11th, 2012, 01:13 PM posted to rec.travel.air
Fly Guy
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Default US-born California man on No Fly List forced to re-enter USA - on foot!

Why isin't the constitutionality of the no fly list being challenged in
the US?

The next time you find that it's your own name on the NFL, you might get
slightly more concerned about this than you are now.

The obvious question here is - how was this guy able to fly *out* of the
US on his out-bound flight?

It's a little known fact that the NFL was a condition demanded by the
insurance industry of the US gov't as a prerequisite to continue to
provide insurance coverage for the US airline industry. AIG was bailed
out for the same reason (they are critically involved in airline
insurance).

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http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/...y-list-status/

SAN DIEGO (CBS) — A Southern California-born Muslim man was back home on
Friday after he discovered he was on the U.S. government’s “no-fly” list
and had to walk back over the border on foot.

KNX Tom Reopelle reports Kevin Iraniha had just received his masters’
degree from a college in Costa Rica.

San Diego State University graduate Iraniha, 27, was preparing to return
to his home in Point Loma when TSA officials informed him of his
“no-fly” status. His brother Johan said the family was not provided any
details on Kevin’s flight status. “Basically, he was told he could not
fly,” he said. “They didn’t give him any information, they said to go to
the U.S. Embassy.”

Officials from the U.S. Embassy then told Iraniha that in order to get
back home, he would have to fly into Tijuana and then walk across the
border on foot.

Iraniha’s brother Johan was furious that his brother was subjected to
such treatment. “I definitely am angry, I’m very upset about it and I
want to do as much as I can but I also wanna make sure that he’s here so
we can definitely tackle the situation together, so I could see how he
feels, how he was treated,” said Johan.

An FBI spokesperson has confirmed with KNX 1070 NEWSRADIO that a
“no-fly” status cannot prevent any U.S. citizen from reentering the
country on foot.

A family member did confirm to a San Diego-area station that Iraniha had
traveled to Egypt during the uprising that led to the ouster of Hosni
Mubarak last year, but denied he was “the revolutionary type”.
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Old June 11th, 2012, 03:24 PM posted to rec.travel.air
Bert[_2_]
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Default US-born California man on No Fly List forced to re-enter USA - on foot!

In Fly Guy wrote:

It's a little known fact that the NFL was a condition demanded by the
insurance industry of the US gov't as a prerequisite to continue to
provide insurance coverage for the US airline industry.


How did you come to know this "little known fact?"

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Old June 12th, 2012, 12:20 AM posted to rec.travel.air
Fly Guy
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Default US-born California man on No Fly List forced to re-enter USA - onfoot!

Bert wrote:

It's a little known fact that the NFL was a condition demanded
by the insurance industry of the US gov't as a prerequisite to
continue to provide insurance coverage for the US airline
industry.


How did you come to know this "little known fact?"



http://www.iata.org/pressroom/docume...1-aviation.pdf

The Impact of 9.11 on Airline War Risk Insurance

On September 17 2001, all aviation insurers issued a seven-day notice of
cancellation of the air transport industry’s third party war risk
insurance. This action was unprecedented and threatened the shutdown of
the entire aviation industry.

The private sector quickly returned to the market, but at a considerably
greater cost to airlines—an additional $2 billion in premiums for far
more limited coverage than that provided by some states. Some states
took stop-gap measures to aid airlines during the initial period. For
example, the Federal Aviation Administration continues to provide war
risk insurance to meet US airlines’ needs. This, however, has created
distortions in the commercial marketplace, putting non-US airlines at a
competitive disadvantage.

Efforts by the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) to
revise the Rome Convention to create a victim compensation fund
concluded in 2009. The revised Convention needs 35 signatories in order
to come into force and to date just eight ICAO member states have signed
it.

As a result, the airline industry remains extremely vulnerable to a
future disruption of cancellation of war risk insurance.

Checkpoint of the Futu

The checkpoint combines two distinct elements: classification of
passengers through risk assessment, and advanced screening technology.
Risk assessment of passengers is a vital step towards focusing on
catching dangerous people not just dangerous items. Passengers
approaching the checkpoint will be directed to one of three lanes,
depending on the information scanned from their passport or ticket.

Known Travelers’, who have registered and completed background checks
with government authorities will have expedited access through known
traveler lanes.

‘Normal’ passengers will be sent through a standard security lane.

‘Enhanced security’ travelers, about whom little advance information is
available or who are on a government checklist, will be sent to a lane
where they are searched more thoroughly. A random element will ensure
that it is impossible to cheat the system.
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Old June 12th, 2012, 07:16 PM posted to rec.travel.air
Bert[_2_]
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Default US-born California man on No Fly List forced to re-enter USA - on foot!

In Fly Guy wrote:

Bert wrote:

It's a little known fact that the NFL was a condition demanded
by the insurance industry of the US gov't as a prerequisite to
continue to provide insurance coverage for the US airline
industry.


How did you come to know this "little known fact?"



http://www.iata.org/pressroom/docume...1-aviation.pdf


Nothing about a secret, spook-agency run no-fly list in there.

But thanks anyway.

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St. Paul, MN
 




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