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  #91  
Old June 2nd, 2004, 10:56 PM
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On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 14:43:15 +0000, Xomicron wrote:

Padraig Breathnach wrote in
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Xomicron wrote:

Padraig Breathnach wrote in
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Xomicron wrote:

The US is not at war with Afghanistan.

Then its armed forces were not faced by any illegal combatants.

What makes terrorists legal combatant?


What terrorists? Those who were fighting US troops in Afghanistan when
the US was not at war with Afghanistan?


Also known as illegal combatants.


The US troops?

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Old June 2nd, 2004, 11:10 PM
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On 2 Jun 2004 05:26:14 GMT, Barney wrote:

"Mark Fagan" had
al.com:

It is merely an announcement to local people that since you are so
much more polite, and might even know a little of their language,
that Canadians are deserving of being treated better!

It could also be that Canadians visiting foreign countries don't refer
to the residents as foreigners and demand they speak english.


I noticed this as well while we were in Germany. WE came across a group
of Americans when one stated, Why don't they speak English?
Unfornately some Americans just can not conceive that in some countries
in the world some if not most of the people there do not spaek English.

They
don't go to a local restaurant and demand food as served at home. They
usualy don't spend the day telling their hosts how things are so much
better at home and try to make up for bad manners with a huge tip.


I recall while we were in London on a cruise on the Thames. There were
Germans speaking very quietly amongst themsleves, Japanese speaking
quitely amonst themselvers and us who were quiet and talking amonst
ourselves and enjoying the atmosphere. Then a family of Americans came
aboard. Everyone on board knew they were Americans beacuse the
Americans made sure everyone knew and boy they were talking loud and
they were actually talking amonst themselves but disturbing everyone
else on board with their loudness..

Of course now some American poster is going to prove my point:


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Old June 2nd, 2004, 11:19 PM
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On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 14:25:58 -0500, ANONYMOUSE wrote:



GWB Jr.


who's this "GWB Jr."?

some canadian?

It seems to me, the US is at War against Afghanistan


these united States have not been at war since 1945.


Nice exercise in semantics. The US did not lose a war in Vietnam because
they have decided that technically it was not a war, presumably?

They never invaded Iraq either, right?


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Old June 2nd, 2004, 11:22 PM
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Xomicron wrote in message ...

You may hate us but you're still our bitches.


Your ID handle is from some Futurama episode...lame.
When USA is self-sufficient in terms of their
energy demands, yes. Until then, no. Remember what
happened in California and their power problems?
How about last summer, and First Energy of Ohio?
  #95  
Old June 2nd, 2004, 11:24 PM
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On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 15:16:36 +0000, Barney wrote:


Well my experience found that those who are rude and impolite are
mostly American. I realize only a few can spoil it for others. I
have met Americans in Canada that even refered to this country as a
"third world country"


To be fair though, I suspect Americans stand out for a bunch of reason,
starting with there being more of them.

People may just not notice those who behave. Probably think they are
Canadian :-).

Another issue: surely this sort of observation will bepend upon places and
destinations, and what type of tourism.

BTW, last time I saw obnoxious tourists in a restaurant, in Jasper it was,
they group of overly noisy folks, behaving like in conquered land, was
French. Then, digressing since these are not tourists, there is always a
group of overly loudy elderly Cantonese ladies in the back of the city
bus. Again, if they expected other folks to understand them, they would
probably make themselves less obnoxious too.

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Old June 2nd, 2004, 11:31 PM
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Van wrote:

I recall while we were in London on a cruise on the Thames. There were
Germans speaking very quietly amongst themsleves, Japanese speaking
quitely amonst themselvers and us who were quiet and talking amonst
ourselves and enjoying the atmosphere. Then a family of Americans came
aboard. Everyone on board knew they were Americans beacuse the
Americans made sure everyone knew and boy they were talking loud and
they were actually talking amonst themselves but disturbing everyone
else on board with their loudness..

You might make a similar observation of Spanish people and, to an
extent, of Italians. They speak more loudly than some other national
groupings. It's a cultural difference -- not good, not bad, just
different.

Even among Americans, there are regional differences. In some areas,
loud talk is the norm; in other areas, it is not.

--
PB
The return address has been MUNGED
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Old June 2nd, 2004, 11:35 PM
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Dave Smith wrote in
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Xomicron wrote:

A terrorist isn't a terrorist unless it can be proven he/she
attempted to, or otherwise assisted, a crime.
Considering that those who go through with the action almost always
wind up dead, it is moot to charge them after the fact. But when you
enter foreign soil hunting for a 'terrorist'- especially uninvited,
you are committing an act of war.
GWB Jr. even stated that "We are at war against terrorism" (he also
said he was at war against evil, which makes him as fanatic as the
ones he hunts) It seems to me, the US is at War against Afghanistan,
and therefore MUST uphold the Geneva Convention.


The US is not at war with Afghanistan.


Then how do Americans get to determine that the people they are fighting
there are illegal combatants.


The Geneva Convention defines what a legal combatant is.
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Old June 2nd, 2004, 11:50 PM
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"Barney" wrote in message
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"PTRAVEL" had
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"Barney" wrote in message
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B had
writtennews:ms5rb0hb1907n1jmbdq6bpl9bi3agu8vbn@4ax .com:



I once had the bad luck to ride in a train for two hours in
front of a loud and ignorant Canadian in Italy. Don't fool
yourself. -----------
Barbara Vaughan

It is embarrassing. Most Canadians feel embarrassed about our
countrymen that do that, but most Americans don't even know how
rude it is.


What an incredibly ridiculous thing to say. How do you know what
"most" Americans do when abroad? How do you even know if they're
Americans.


Because they say they are American!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(Usually the first
thing they say)


Again, how do you extrapolate from that to "most Americans"? I'm an
American, and I don't announce the fact (unless someone asks), nor do I
conduct myself rudely. And my extrapolation, based on the Americans that I
know (which number, I suspect, vastly exceeds those that you know) is that
most Americans are _not_ rude when they travel.



I traveled extensivly and many times with Americans. Most time I
tried to disassociate myself from them but alas! I worked with them
as well.


And I have traveled extensively, and many times with Americans. I can count
on half the fingers of one hand the number of times I've seen identifiable
American tourists acting badly.

Happily, my experience of Candians and Canada has been far more welcoming
and warm than your rather bigoted and xenophobic manner would indicate As I
said previously, your sig says it all.


--
__________________________________________________ ________
"I'm not into name calling. That's best left to the Morons and
Idiots"



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Old June 2nd, 2004, 11:52 PM
Xomicron
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Van wrote in
:

They don't go to a local restaurant and demand food as served at home.
They usualy don't spend the day telling their hosts how things are so
much better at home and try to make up for bad manners with a huge tip.


I recall while we were in London on a cruise on the Thames. There were
Germans speaking very quietly amongst themsleves, Japanese speaking
quitely amonst themselvers and us who were quiet and talking amonst
ourselves and enjoying the atmosphere. Then a family of Americans came
aboard. Everyone on board knew they were Americans beacuse the
Americans made sure everyone knew and boy they were talking loud and
they were actually talking amonst themselves but disturbing everyone
else on board with their loudness..


That's a cultural thing. Americans tend to be more outgoing than most
Europeans.
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Old June 2nd, 2004, 11:56 PM
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"devil" wrote in message
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On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 15:16:36 +0000, Barney wrote:


Well my experience found that those who are rude and impolite are
mostly American. I realize only a few can spoil it for others. I
have met Americans in Canada that even refered to this country as a
"third world country"


To be fair though, I suspect Americans stand out for a bunch of reason,
starting with there being more of them.

People may just not notice those who behave. Probably think they are
Canadian :-).

Another issue: surely this sort of observation will bepend upon places and
destinations, and what type of tourism.

BTW, last time I saw obnoxious tourists in a restaurant, in Jasper it was,
they group of overly noisy folks, behaving like in conquered land, was
French. Then, digressing since these are not tourists, there is always a
group of overly loudy elderly Cantonese ladies in the back of the city
bus. Again, if they expected other folks to understand them, they would
probably make themselves less obnoxious too.

An interesting observation, because I've always found the Cantonese language
to be rather loud and harsh. My wife, who is Chinese and whose primary
language is Mandarin (though she can also speak Cantonese) agrees.
Mandarin, IMHO, is a more fluid and melodious language. However, I don't
think the character of the Cantonese language (or any other language for
that matter) is inherently obnoxious -- the additional tonal variations, as
well as the specific phoneme set, more or less dictate that other cultures
will find it harsh.




 




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