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Old May 22nd, 2006, 09:53 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
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On Sun, 21 May 2006 13:27:48 +0200, Mxsmanic
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Dave Frightens Me writes:

There is no gurantee of that. We have seen no evidence to date.


We have the history of all the developed countries as evidence, and
the evidence is consistent.


So the Earth is proof of what you said?
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Old May 23rd, 2006, 05:25 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
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Martin writes:

You make the same claim about the French.


That claim is equally valid.

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Old May 23rd, 2006, 05:33 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
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Jordi writes:

That is a common western misconception. An extremely small percentage
are extremely wealthy, a good other percentage are simply wealthy and
most people are upper-middle class by western standards.


Not with a GDP of $12,900 (vs. $42,000 for the USA).

Those having a hard time in the KSA are, for the most part, foreign
workers in near slavery conditions and foreign students trying to
become muslim clerics. Those are the ones bringing the per capita
figures down.


Even after adjusting for foreign workers, I still get a per capita GDP
of $20,500, which is less than half the average of the USA.

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Old May 23rd, 2006, 08:16 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Jordi writes:


Even after adjusting for foreign workers, I still get a per capita GDP
of $20,500, which is less than half the average of the USA.


Foreign workers are roughly 25% of the total population, nearly 40% of
people on working age.

Every Saudi citizen has free health care and education, loans at 0% for
starting businesses and 1st house mortgages, and barely pays any taxes
at all.

In terms of available income, the figure will be very similar to that
of the US, and, believe it or not, it is more evenly distributed _among
Saudi citizens_


J.

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Old May 23rd, 2006, 11:49 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
Jordi writes:

That is a common western misconception. An extremely small percentage
are extremely wealthy, a good other percentage are simply wealthy and
most people are upper-middle class by western standards.


Not with a GDP of $12,900 (vs. $42,000 for the USA).

Those having a hard time in the KSA are, for the most part, foreign
workers in near slavery conditions and foreign students trying to
become muslim clerics. Those are the ones bringing the per capita
figures down.


Even after adjusting for foreign workers, I still get a per capita GDP
of $20,500, which is less than half the average of the USA.


US averages are more misleading than most, especially as Bill Gates has as
much wealth as the poorest 47% of americans COMBINED.


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Old May 23rd, 2006, 05:38 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
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On Tue, 23 May 2006 11:49:44 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
.. .
Jordi writes:

That is a common western misconception. An extremely small percentage
are extremely wealthy, a good other percentage are simply wealthy and
most people are upper-middle class by western standards.

Not with a GDP of $12,900 (vs. $42,000 for the USA).

Those having a hard time in the KSA are, for the most part, foreign
workers in near slavery conditions and foreign students trying to
become muslim clerics. Those are the ones bringing the per capita
figures down.

Even after adjusting for foreign workers, I still get a per capita GDP
of $20,500, which is less than half the average of the USA.


US averages are more misleading than most, especially as Bill Gates has

as
much wealth as the poorest 47% of americans COMBINED.


Have you got a source for that?


I cant find the recent source where I spotted that but:

http://www.commondreams.org/pressrel...98/072798a.htm

and :
" Microsoft CEO Bill Gates has more wealth than the bottom 45 percent of
American households combined. "

http://www.cooperativeindividualism....ution1999.html

Also along a similar vein:

"In 1999, three men - Bill Gates, Paul Allen, and Warren Buffet - had a net
worth greater than the combined GDP of the 41 poorest nations and their 550
million people. "

http://www.foodrevolution.org/havenot.htm


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Old May 23rd, 2006, 06:05 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
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On Tue, 23 May 2006 11:49:44 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
wrote:


"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
.. .
Jordi writes:

That is a common western misconception. An extremely small percentage
are extremely wealthy, a good other percentage are simply wealthy and
most people are upper-middle class by western standards.


Not with a GDP of $12,900 (vs. $42,000 for the USA).

Those having a hard time in the KSA are, for the most part, foreign
workers in near slavery conditions and foreign students trying to
become muslim clerics. Those are the ones bringing the per capita
figures down.


Even after adjusting for foreign workers, I still get a per capita GDP
of $20,500, which is less than half the average of the USA.


US averages are more misleading than most, especially as Bill Gates has as
much wealth as the poorest 47% of americans COMBINED.


Have you got a source for that?
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Old May 23rd, 2006, 08:10 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
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Jordi wrote:

Mxsmanic wrote:
Jordi writes:


Even after adjusting for foreign workers, I still get a per capita GDP
of $20,500, which is less than half the average of the USA.


Foreign workers are roughly 25% of the total population, nearly 40% of
people on working age.

Every Saudi citizen has free health care and education, loans at 0% for
starting businesses and 1st house mortgages, and barely pays any taxes
at all.

In terms of available income, the figure will be very similar to that
of the US, and, believe it or not, it is more evenly distributed _among
Saudi citizens_



Yeah, but being a MUSLIM is rather a prerequisite for receiving all this
largesse...

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Old May 23rd, 2006, 08:12 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
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Dave Frightens Me wrote:

On Tue, 23 May 2006 17:38:03 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
wrote:

Also along a similar vein:

"In 1999, three men - Bill Gates, Paul Allen, and Warren Buffet - had a

net
worth greater than the combined GDP of the 41 poorest nations and their

550
million people. "

http://www.foodrevolution.org/havenot.htm


Damn, it makes you wanna do something about it, if only we knew
what...



Is the good 'ole USA a GREAT place or what...!!!???

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Old May 23rd, 2006, 08:38 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
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On Tue, 23 May 2006 17:38:03 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
wrote:

Also along a similar vein:

"In 1999, three men - Bill Gates, Paul Allen, and Warren Buffet - had a net
worth greater than the combined GDP of the 41 poorest nations and their 550
million people. "

http://www.foodrevolution.org/havenot.htm


Damn, it makes you wanna do something about it, if only we knew
what...
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