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Driver Licensing is all about highway safety
On Oct 26, 4:42 am, proffsl wrote:
wrote: proffsl wrote: wrote: proffsl wrote: "Alohacyberian" wrote: "proffsl" wrote: "Alohacyberian" wrote: Operation of motor vehicles isn't a "right". The operation of a motor vehicle on public highways is a Right, Sorry, you don't know the legal meaning of a "right". Baseless Ad Hominem. "The Idaho Supreme Court, however, has held that the right to operate a motor vehicle on public highways is a matter of constitutional dimension. In Adams v. City of Pocatello , 91 Idaho 99, 101, 416 P.2d 46, 48 (1966), the Court declared that the right to drive "is a right or liberty, the enjoyment of which is protected by the guarantees of the federal and state constitutions. Consequently, the courts of this state must regard the right to drive a motor vehicle on public highways as constitutionally protected." - State of Idaho v. Mark Wilder (2003) -http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data2/idahostatecases/app/1033/wilder.pdf You left out the part of the ruling, as you always do, that included licensing as part of the exercise of the right to travel by auto. Licensing is not a part of our Right to operate a motor vehicle on public highways. Yes it is. I've proven that unquestioningly and irrefutably. As you have previously acknowledged what I say, you are lying. I have never lied, unlike you who consistently does so. I have proven unquestioningly and irrefutably that licensing IS a part of the ordinary way of operating a motor vehicle on the public streets. As I proved to you in last year's version of your lost cause, since 1915 that has been established as legal and constitutional, in Hendrick. The connection is made and accepted. The only lie is your continued avoidance of the truth. Where the court recognizes the Right to operate motor vehicles on public highways, Licensing is not mentioned as a part of that Right.. Yes it is. The fact that you pull only one sentence out of a ruling and misapply it, does not mean that your point is established. It just means you left during the first inning of the argument and missed the ball game. The authority to establish a system of licensing and registration as part of the ordinary way was settled in 1915. You cannot leave out the rest of the rulings you quote - all of which in the end supported me and contradicted you. None of the court cases you cited ever said one single word about invalidating the system of licensing and registration... none. You lose. Licensing IS NOT a part of our Right to operate a motor vehicle on public highways. Wrong. It is, and it's been formally recognized as such since 1915 in Hendrick. Licensing is a part of the police power being unreasonably imposed upon our Right to operate a motor vehicle on public highways. As has been proven, it is not unreasonable at all. The police power to require Driver Licensing, circumventing our Right to operate motor vehicles on public highways, serves no purpose to highway safety that laws against endangerment didn't already serve, and is therefore unreasonable. False. That line of reasoning has been litigated and rejected. Here by your own admission licensing does serve public safety, by which you contradict your earlier claims. At least you are making progress slowly toward the truth. I predict by 2009 you will finally grasp it. It doesn't matter that you can conceive of another way without licensing that some measure of public safety can also be achieved. That alone does not make licensing unreasonable or arbitrary at all. This has been litigated and your position has failed. |
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Driver Licensing is all about highway safety
On Oct 26, 4:44 am, proffsl wrote:
wrote: proffsl wrote: You are lying. I have never lied. You are lying. Then you shouldn't have been so incapable of ever, in 19 months, pointing out even one single instance in which such a lie can even be alleged, should you? Yet that is the case, while I have clearly established your long pattern of outright lies including your complete fabrication of a phony court citation to try to bolster your losing argument. You are lying, and the amusing thing is, you know it while you post denials since they instances were pointed out to you at the time. |
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Driver Licensing not about highway safety
On Oct 22, 7:51 pm, "Alohacyberian" wrote:
"proffsl" wrote in message oups.com... "Alohacyberian" wrote: "proffsl" wrote: "Alohacyberian" wrote: Operation of motor vehicles isn't a "right". The operation of a motor vehicle on public highways is a Right, Sorry, you don't know the legal meaning of a "right". Baseless Ad Hominem. My response is not baseless and has nothing to do with ad hominem (which apparently is another definition which escapes you). Getting a driver license is not a "right" in the legal sense of the word. Period. If you think it's a right, then you don't know the legal meaning of the word, which is probably why you never say anything new, but, can only repeat yourself ad nauseam. Which is also probably why you stated, "Baseless Ad Hominem," because you are unable to refute the statement. Nevertheless over this period of time, I'm sure you can count the number of people whom you've persuaded to your views. LOL! KM -- (-:alohacyberian:-) At my website view over 3,600 live cameras or visit NASA, the Vatican, the Smithsonian, the Louvre, CIA, FBI, and NBA, the White House, Academy Awards, 150 language translators! Visit Hawaii, Israel and more at: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/ Christ you are a hoot and an illiterate baffoon. Stick to cut and paste. When you write on your own your stupidity stands out like clinton's penis. |
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Driver Licensing not about highway safety
On Oct 22, 7:51 pm, "Alohacyberian" wrote:
"proffsl" wrote in message ups.com... "Alohacyberian" wrote: "proffsl" wrote: "Alohacyberian" wrote: Operation of motor vehicles isn't a "right". The operation of a motor vehicle on public highways is a Right, that is being circumvented by a police power requiring Licensing. It isn't the police who require driver licenses; Your phrase above shows no understanding of a police power at all. "Police power" isn't relevant to my statement above. Police don't make the laws, no do they, as policemen require anything; they merely enforce the requirements set by lawmakers. Pretty simple, huh? KM -- (-:alohacyberian:-) At my website view over 3,600 live cameras or visit NASA, the Vatican, the Smithsonian, the Louvre, CIA, FBI, and NBA, the White House, Academy Awards, 150 language translators! Visit Hawaii, Israel and more at: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/ Illiterate. No wonder you sell used cars...when life gives you schlemens, make schlemenaid. |
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Driver Licensing not about highway safety
On Oct 21, 5:23 pm, "Alohacyberian" wrote:
"proffsl" wrote in message ups.com... "Alohacyberian" wrote: Operation of motor vehicles isn't a "right". The operation of a motor vehicle on public highways is a Right, that is being circumvented by a police power requiring Licensing. It isn't the police who require driver licenses; they are only enforcing the laws they don't make. You need to study up on how laws are enacted and for what reason, and how those laws are enforced and who's responsible for their enforcement. It would be much easier for you to study your local driver license manual and try to pass the test this time rather than go on the Usenet and plea for laws to be changed for those who flunk the tests. KM -- (-:alohacyberian:-) At my website view over 3,600 live cameras or visit NASA, the Vatican, the Smithsonian, the Louvre, CIA, FBI, and NBA, the White House, Academy Awards, 150 language translators! Visit Hawaii, Israel and more at: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/ I love it when you write things yourself. You just reinforce the general concensus that you are a blithering, illiterate idiot. |
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Driver Licensing not about highway safety
On Oct 21, 5:23 pm, "Alohacyberian" wrote:
"proffsl" wrote in message ups.com... "Alohacyberian" wrote: Operation of motor vehicles isn't a "right". The operation of a motor vehicle on public highways is a Right, Sorry, you don't know the legal meaning of a "right". KM -- (-:alohacyberian:-) At my website view over 3,600 live cameras or visit NASA, the Vatican, the Smithsonian, the Louvre, CIA, FBI, and NBA, the White House, Academy Awards, 150 language translators! Visit Hawaii, Israel and more at: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/ Har har, you don't know the legal meaning of a "brain". What is the legal meaning of a right, fool? The bill of rights? Is the pursuit of happiness a "right". Is the objection of nazi khazakstanese who call themselves jews a right? You wouldn't know right if it bit you in the face. |
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TrollAIDS Forges On!
"alohacyberian" wrote in message
ups.com... On Oct 22, 7:51 pm, "Alohacyberian" wrote: Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. KM -- (-:alohacyberian:-) At my website view over 3,600 live cameras or visit NASA, the Vatican, the Smithsonian, the Louvre, CIA, FBI, and NBA, the White House, Academy Awards, 150 language translators! Visit Hawaii, Israel and more at: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/ |
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TrollAIDS Forges On!
"alohacyberian" wrote in message
ups.com... On Oct 22, 7:51 pm, "Alohacyberian" wrote: Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. KM -- (-:alohacyberian:-) At my website view over 3,600 live cameras or visit NASA, the Vatican, the Smithsonian, the Louvre, CIA, FBI, and NBA, the White House, Academy Awards, 150 language translators! Visit Hawaii, Israel and more at: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/ |
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TrollAIDS Forges On!
"alohacyberian" wrote in message
ps.com... On Oct 21, 5:23 pm, "Alohacyberian" wrote: Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. KM -- (-:alohacyberian:-) At my website view over 3,600 live cameras or visit NASA, the Vatican, the Smithsonian, the Louvre, CIA, FBI, and NBA, the White House, Academy Awards, 150 language translators! Visit Hawaii, Israel and more at: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/ |
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TrollAIDS Forges On!
"alohacyberian" wrote in message
ups.com... On Oct 21, 5:23 pm, "Alohacyberian" wrote: Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. KM -- (-:alohacyberian:-) At my website view over 3,600 live cameras or visit NASA, the Vatican, the Smithsonian, the Louvre, CIA, FBI, and NBA, the White House, Academy Awards, 150 language translators! Visit Hawaii, Israel and more at: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/ |
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