A Travel and vacations forum. TravelBanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » TravelBanter forum » Travelling Style » Air travel
Site Map Home Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

When Will Lower Gasoline Prices Work Through to Airline Tickets?



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old November 25th, 2008, 09:24 PM posted to rec.travel.air
W
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 18
Default When Will Lower Gasoline Prices Work Through to Airline Tickets?

When will much-lower gasoline prices start showing up in reduced airfares?
I'm still getting quotes for round trips from west coast US to Cancun of
$900+.

--
W


  #2  
Old November 25th, 2008, 10:47 PM posted to rec.travel.air
SMS
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 899
Default When Will Lower Gasoline Prices Work Through to Airline Tickets?

W wrote:
When will much-lower gasoline prices start showing up in reduced airfares?
I'm still getting quotes for round trips from west coast US to Cancun of
$900+.


Probably not too soon. The airlines have mothballed planes and reduced
staffing to the point where the supply of seats is so much lower that
they're selling only to those that _really_ want to go and that are
willing to ante up.

I guess it's a win-win for everyone. The airlines can charge more for
seats, and we can decide not to save money and not pay what they're asking.
  #3  
Old November 26th, 2008, 05:21 AM posted to rec.travel.air
jessica_smith_nyc
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 124
Default When Will Lower Gasoline Prices Work Through to Airline Tickets?

Maybe next year they will lower the prices......

---
http://www.moviesitearchive.com/travel


On Nov 25, 1:24*pm, "W" wrote:
When will much-lower gasoline prices start showing up in reduced airfares?
I'm still getting quotes for round trips from west coast US to Cancun of
$900+.

--
W


  #4  
Old November 26th, 2008, 03:07 PM posted to rec.travel.air
VS[_1_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 255
Default When Will Lower Gasoline Prices Work Through to Airline Tickets?

In article ,
W wrote:

When will much-lower gasoline prices start showing up in reduced airfares?
I'm still getting quotes for round trips from west coast US to Cancun of
$900+.


Heck, I just got dinged $700 in fuel surcharges on a ``free''
(i.e., paid with frequent flier miles) BA ticket. It seems that
BA *raised* their fuel surcharges even after oil prices dropped
by two thirds.

  #5  
Old November 27th, 2008, 06:56 AM
Renfred Renfred is offline
Member
 
First recorded activity by TravelBanter: Nov 2008
Posts: 9
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by W View Post
When will much-lower gasoline prices start showing up in reduced airfares?
I'm still getting quotes for round trips from west coast US to Cancun of
$900+.

--
W


try this on for size, it sure saved me. Now I save on gas and I am making real good money. 2Rucker.Neverpayforfuel.com
  #6  
Old December 2nd, 2008, 01:48 PM posted to rec.travel.air
Kev[_4_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 16
Default When Will Lower Gasoline Prices Work Through to Airline Tickets?

On Nov 25, 4:24*pm, "W" wrote:
When will much-lower gasoline prices start showing up in reduced airfares?
I'm still getting quotes for round trips from west coast US to Cancun of
$900+.



Airline tickets are sold pretty much on the basis of "what the
market
will bear". Unfortunately for the airlines right now, those markets
won't "bear" what the marginal costs are. It has put the airlines in
a
position of needing to treat most airline seats as "loss leaders",
which is to say they hope to sell you something else to make
up for the loss on the seat. They have slashed capacity so as
to try to only serve the folks willing to pay the most. Any reduction
in their costs due to fuel savings will merely translate into smaller
losses on the base ticket price. The business model that had them
charging huge prices for "business travel" has died, probably never
to be born again. "Supersaver" fares were never directly profitable
and now have little interest in that market segment at all. None the
less, even with the higher prices, travel is vastly more affordable
than
it was in the late '60s and early '70s.
  #7  
Old December 3rd, 2008, 07:23 AM posted to rec.travel.air
sharx35
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 803
Default When Will Lower Gasoline Prices Work Through to Airline Tickets?



"Kev" wrote in message
...
On Nov 25, 4:24 pm, "W" wrote:
When will much-lower gasoline prices start showing up in reduced
airfares?
I'm still getting quotes for round trips from west coast US to Cancun of
$900+.



Airline tickets are sold pretty much on the basis of "what the
market
will bear". Unfortunately for the airlines right now, those markets
won't "bear" what the marginal costs are. It has put the airlines in
a
position of needing to treat most airline seats as "loss leaders",
which is to say they hope to sell you something else to make
up for the loss on the seat. They have slashed capacity so as
to try to only serve the folks willing to pay the most. Any reduction
in their costs due to fuel savings will merely translate into smaller
losses on the base ticket price. The business model that had them
charging huge prices for "business travel" has died, probably never
to be born again. "Supersaver" fares were never directly profitable
and now have little interest in that market segment at all. None the
less, even with the higher prices, travel is vastly more affordable
than
it was in the late '60s and early '70s.


That is part of the problem. Air travel should NOT be so cheap that the
average person can afford to fly at the proverbial drop of a hat.
Flying should be for special occasions and not, as a matter of course,
unless one lives in a location not served by other means of travel.



  #8  
Old December 3rd, 2008, 05:58 PM posted to rec.travel.air
Kev[_4_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 16
Default When Will Lower Gasoline Prices Work Through to Airline Tickets?

On Dec 3, 2:23*am, "Sharx35" wrote:
"Kev" wrote in message

...





On Nov 25, 4:24 pm, "W" wrote:
When will much-lower gasoline prices start showing up in reduced
airfares?
I'm still getting quotes for round trips from west coast US to Cancun of
$900+.


*Airline tickets are sold pretty much on the basis of "what the
market
will bear". *Unfortunately for the airlines right now, those markets
won't "bear" what the marginal costs are. *It has put the airlines in
a
position of needing to treat most airline seats as "loss leaders",
which is to say they hope to sell you something else to make
up for the loss on the seat. *They have slashed capacity so as
to try to only serve the folks willing to pay the most. *Any reduction
in their costs due to fuel savings will merely translate into smaller
losses on the base ticket price. *The business model that had them
charging huge prices for "business travel" has died, probably never
to be born again. *"Supersaver" fares were never directly profitable
and now have little interest in that market segment at all. *None the
less, even with the higher prices, travel is vastly more affordable
than
it was in the late '60s and early '70s.


That is part of the problem. Air travel should NOT be so cheap that the
average person can afford to fly at the proverbial drop of a hat.
Flying should be for special occasions and not, as a matter of course,
unless one lives in a location not served by other means of travel


Well, I'm not sure why you would declare such a premise. But
"below cost" or "cattle class" has basically always existed, whether
it was trains, planes, or ships. Once you have a vessel going from
A to B, it is a matter of filling it to capacity, ultimately at any
price.
The trick has always been to reach capacity before the total price
fell below the profitable levels. The airlines passed that line in
about 2001.
  #9  
Old December 4th, 2008, 04:57 AM posted to rec.travel.air
sharx35
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 803
Default When Will Lower Gasoline Prices Work Through to Airline Tickets?



"Kev" wrote in message
...
On Dec 3, 2:23 am, "Sharx35" wrote:
"Kev" wrote in message

...





On Nov 25, 4:24 pm, "W" wrote:
When will much-lower gasoline prices start showing up in reduced
airfares?
I'm still getting quotes for round trips from west coast US to Cancun
of
$900+.


Airline tickets are sold pretty much on the basis of "what the
market
will bear". Unfortunately for the airlines right now, those markets
won't "bear" what the marginal costs are. It has put the airlines in
a
position of needing to treat most airline seats as "loss leaders",
which is to say they hope to sell you something else to make
up for the loss on the seat. They have slashed capacity so as
to try to only serve the folks willing to pay the most. Any reduction
in their costs due to fuel savings will merely translate into smaller
losses on the base ticket price. The business model that had them
charging huge prices for "business travel" has died, probably never
to be born again. "Supersaver" fares were never directly profitable
and now have little interest in that market segment at all. None the
less, even with the higher prices, travel is vastly more affordable
than
it was in the late '60s and early '70s.


That is part of the problem. Air travel should NOT be so cheap that the
average person can afford to fly at the proverbial drop of a hat.
Flying should be for special occasions and not, as a matter of course,
unless one lives in a location not served by other means of travel


Well, I'm not sure why you would declare such a premise. But
"below cost" or "cattle class" has basically always existed, whether
it was trains, planes, or ships. Once you have a vessel going from
A to B, it is a matter of filling it to capacity, ultimately at any
price.
The trick has always been to reach capacity before the total price
fell below the profitable levels. The airlines passed that line in
about 2001.


There are know so many hassles associated with air travel that I,
personally,
will avoid ANY air travel unless absolutely, totally necessary. Who needs
having to get to the **(*(*(*(*( #@#@$ airport hours before the flight
leaves?
Who needs trying to decipher fares and add-ons than change minute by minute?
Who needs ANY of the bull****? I will drive, whenever possible, to many
destination.
Screw ALL forms of public transit.





  #10  
Old December 7th, 2008, 09:33 PM posted to rec.travel.air
jimbob
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 41
Default When Will Lower Gasoline Prices Work Through to AirlineTickets?

Never!, if you travel out of CVG!!!!


JB

 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Gasoline prices around the world Viking Europe 21 April 23rd, 2007 07:55 AM
Gasoline Prices in Italy? em_CT Europe 7 February 18th, 2006 09:35 AM
Was : gasoline prices in France didier Meurgues Europe 1 October 31st, 2005 07:27 PM
Gasoline prices in France Earl Evleth Europe 40 September 1st, 2005 06:51 PM
Bereavement airline tickets, how does it work. arlene USA & Canada 11 May 7th, 2004 02:54 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:28 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 TravelBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.