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Clueless first-timer needs advice about cruises please
Actually no, the cruise line itself requests the passengers observe a certain
dress code for the evening, some nights its casual, some nights its formal. If you have a problem with that, perhaps you are booking on the wrong line, imho. You shouldn't expect other passengers to appreciate your willful noncomformity with the guidelines on dress code. This snippet is from the Celebrity web site: Evening Wear Celebrity Cruises' elegant, formal evenings include the Captain's Welcome Cocktail Party and Dinner, the Captain's Farewell Dinner, and a third or fourth "formal" night for those cruises sailing more than seven nights. The daily program, delivered to your stateroom and available at the Guest Relations Desk, will be your guide to the appropriate attire each evening. Note that term carefully -- "your guide to the appropriate attire each evening." You mention "I'd be happy enough to dress up if they provide the clothes on board"... Yes, they've thought of this, for the gentlemen at least. Again, from the web site: Tuxedo Rental Why miss out on elegant evenings by not planning ahead? Cruiseline Formalwear will deliver formal wear directly to your stateroom. Perfect style, perfect fit -- ready to wear. To reserve a tuxedo, call 800-551-5091 or 305-252-8572. It's not about live and let live, it's about a certain ambience on board that most passengers are paying good money to be a part of....aka, the "appropriate attire each evening". There are rules in life, and if you don't happen to like these particular rules that's dandy, but there are other cruiselines which may be more suited to the type of experience you desire to have. Jeff However, to expect everyone to play dress-ups is just as bad as expecting everyone to wear shorts. |
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Clueless first-timer needs advice about cruises please
Actually no, the cruise line itself requests the passengers observe a certain
dress code for the evening, some nights its casual, some nights its formal. If you have a problem with that, perhaps you are booking on the wrong line, imho. You shouldn't expect other passengers to appreciate your willful noncomformity with the guidelines on dress code. This snippet is from the Celebrity web site: Evening Wear Celebrity Cruises' elegant, formal evenings include the Captain's Welcome Cocktail Party and Dinner, the Captain's Farewell Dinner, and a third or fourth "formal" night for those cruises sailing more than seven nights. The daily program, delivered to your stateroom and available at the Guest Relations Desk, will be your guide to the appropriate attire each evening. Note that term carefully -- "your guide to the appropriate attire each evening." You mention "I'd be happy enough to dress up if they provide the clothes on board"... Yes, they've thought of this, for the gentlemen at least. Again, from the web site: Tuxedo Rental Why miss out on elegant evenings by not planning ahead? Cruiseline Formalwear will deliver formal wear directly to your stateroom. Perfect style, perfect fit -- ready to wear. To reserve a tuxedo, call 800-551-5091 or 305-252-8572. It's not about live and let live, it's about a certain ambience on board that most passengers are paying good money to be a part of....aka, the "appropriate attire each evening". There are rules in life, and if you don't happen to like these particular rules that's dandy, but there are other cruiselines which may be more suited to the type of experience you desire to have. Jeff However, to expect everyone to play dress-ups is just as bad as expecting everyone to wear shorts. |
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"Bob Thomas" wrote in message ... I haven't yet embarked on my first cruise ... but I must say I find the "dress" aspect to be the most offputting. My idea of a holiday is to relax and enjoy myself, and if there are those who are so full of it that a relaxed person in shorts "cheapens" their experience, then I'd have to say there is something inherently wrong with that approach to holidaying. This, to me, is the same as those who treat waiters as some sort of sub-species, instead of ordinary people doing a valuable job. Sorry if *this* offends ... but really, snobbishness gets up my nose! There are cruises (like NCL) that allow casual dress every evening... albeit with long pants and a nice shirt (like a golf shirt). They do not have formal nights like other lines (Carnival, Royal Caribbean, Princess, Celebrity, etc.). If putting on a pair of slacks (dockers, etc.) for dinner in a fancy dining room is too much of a hassle... perhaps you should look elsewhere. A cruise might not be your cup of tea. IMO, enforcing the long pants kind of forces people to shower and clean up for dinner, rather than showing up sweaty, full of sun tan oil, from the pool area. --Tom |
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Clueless first-timer needs advice about cruises please
"Bob Thomas" wrote in message ... I haven't yet embarked on my first cruise ... but I must say I find the "dress" aspect to be the most offputting. My idea of a holiday is to relax and enjoy myself, and if there are those who are so full of it that a relaxed person in shorts "cheapens" their experience, then I'd have to say there is something inherently wrong with that approach to holidaying. This, to me, is the same as those who treat waiters as some sort of sub-species, instead of ordinary people doing a valuable job. Sorry if *this* offends ... but really, snobbishness gets up my nose! There are cruises (like NCL) that allow casual dress every evening... albeit with long pants and a nice shirt (like a golf shirt). They do not have formal nights like other lines (Carnival, Royal Caribbean, Princess, Celebrity, etc.). If putting on a pair of slacks (dockers, etc.) for dinner in a fancy dining room is too much of a hassle... perhaps you should look elsewhere. A cruise might not be your cup of tea. IMO, enforcing the long pants kind of forces people to shower and clean up for dinner, rather than showing up sweaty, full of sun tan oil, from the pool area. --Tom |
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Clueless first-timer needs advice about cruises please
"Tom & Linda" wrote in message t... There are cruises (like NCL) that allow casual dress every evening... albeit with long pants and a nice shirt (like a golf shirt). They do not have formal nights like other lines (Carnival, Royal Caribbean, Princess, Celebrity, etc.). If putting on a pair of slacks (dockers, etc.) for dinner in a fancy dining room is too much of a hassle... perhaps you should look elsewhere. A cruise might not be your cup of tea. IMO, enforcing the long pants kind of forces people to shower and clean up for dinner, rather than showing up sweaty, full of sun tan oil, from the pool area. Tom, I agree with all the above except that they do have formal nights in the dining room on NCL if you wish to participate. If you don't, you can go smart casual to the buffet area where they have set up tables with tablecloths and crystal and have the same menu as the main dining room. At least this was the way it was on the 15 day Norwegian Crown that we took to South America last November... --Jean |
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Clueless first-timer needs advice about cruises please
"Tom & Linda" wrote in message t... There are cruises (like NCL) that allow casual dress every evening... albeit with long pants and a nice shirt (like a golf shirt). They do not have formal nights like other lines (Carnival, Royal Caribbean, Princess, Celebrity, etc.). If putting on a pair of slacks (dockers, etc.) for dinner in a fancy dining room is too much of a hassle... perhaps you should look elsewhere. A cruise might not be your cup of tea. IMO, enforcing the long pants kind of forces people to shower and clean up for dinner, rather than showing up sweaty, full of sun tan oil, from the pool area. Tom, I agree with all the above except that they do have formal nights in the dining room on NCL if you wish to participate. If you don't, you can go smart casual to the buffet area where they have set up tables with tablecloths and crystal and have the same menu as the main dining room. At least this was the way it was on the 15 day Norwegian Crown that we took to South America last November... --Jean |
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Clueless first-timer needs advice about cruises please
In the newer NCL ships, they have multiple main dining rooms (sometimes with
slightly differnt menus) and one will be the formal room, and another will be less formal. So you can have the china and crystal and formal service without the suit, as I think is Jean's point. Julie Jean O'Boyle wrote: "Tom & Linda" wrote in message t... There are cruises (like NCL) that allow casual dress every evening... albeit with long pants and a nice shirt (like a golf shirt). They do not have formal nights like other lines (Carnival, Royal Caribbean, Princess, Celebrity, etc.). If putting on a pair of slacks (dockers, etc.) for dinner in a fancy dining room is too much of a hassle... perhaps you should look elsewhere. A cruise might not be your cup of tea. IMO, enforcing the long pants kind of forces people to shower and clean up for dinner, rather than showing up sweaty, full of sun tan oil, from the pool area. Tom, I agree with all the above except that they do have formal nights in the dining room on NCL if you wish to participate. If you don't, you can go smart casual to the buffet area where they have set up tables with tablecloths and crystal and have the same menu as the main dining room. At least this was the way it was on the 15 day Norwegian Crown that we took to South America last November... --Jean -- Julie ********** Check out my Travel Pages (non-commercial) at http://www.dragonsholm.org/travel.htm |
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Clueless first-timer needs advice about cruises please
In the newer NCL ships, they have multiple main dining rooms (sometimes with
slightly differnt menus) and one will be the formal room, and another will be less formal. So you can have the china and crystal and formal service without the suit, as I think is Jean's point. Julie Jean O'Boyle wrote: "Tom & Linda" wrote in message t... There are cruises (like NCL) that allow casual dress every evening... albeit with long pants and a nice shirt (like a golf shirt). They do not have formal nights like other lines (Carnival, Royal Caribbean, Princess, Celebrity, etc.). If putting on a pair of slacks (dockers, etc.) for dinner in a fancy dining room is too much of a hassle... perhaps you should look elsewhere. A cruise might not be your cup of tea. IMO, enforcing the long pants kind of forces people to shower and clean up for dinner, rather than showing up sweaty, full of sun tan oil, from the pool area. Tom, I agree with all the above except that they do have formal nights in the dining room on NCL if you wish to participate. If you don't, you can go smart casual to the buffet area where they have set up tables with tablecloths and crystal and have the same menu as the main dining room. At least this was the way it was on the 15 day Norwegian Crown that we took to South America last November... --Jean -- Julie ********** Check out my Travel Pages (non-commercial) at http://www.dragonsholm.org/travel.htm |
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Clueless first-timer needs advice about cruises please
"Jean O'Boyle" wrote in message ... "Tom & Linda" wrote in message t... There are cruises (like NCL) that allow casual dress every evening... albeit with long pants and a nice shirt (like a golf shirt). They do not have formal nights like other lines (Carnival, Royal Caribbean, Princess, Celebrity, etc.). If putting on a pair of slacks (dockers, etc.) for dinner in a fancy dining room is too much of a hassle... perhaps you should look elsewhere. A cruise might not be your cup of tea. IMO, enforcing the long pants kind of forces people to shower and clean up for dinner, rather than showing up sweaty, full of sun tan oil, from the pool area. Tom, I agree with all the above except that they do have formal nights in the dining room on NCL if you wish to participate. If you don't, you can go smart casual to the buffet area where they have set up tables with tablecloths and crystal and have the same menu as the main dining room. At least this was the way it was on the 15 day Norwegian Crown that we took to South America last November... On Norwegian Dawn it was different. That ship has about 9-10 different dining rooms/restaurant options. She was built for Freestyle, not just refitted for it (like the Crown). Dawn has 3 main dining rooms, each free and with the exact same menu as the other 2 that particular night. Only one was designated as formal. The other 2 were designated casual. You didn't have to go to the buffet for casual. --Tom |
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Clueless first-timer needs advice about cruises please
"Jean O'Boyle" wrote in message ... "Tom & Linda" wrote in message t... There are cruises (like NCL) that allow casual dress every evening... albeit with long pants and a nice shirt (like a golf shirt). They do not have formal nights like other lines (Carnival, Royal Caribbean, Princess, Celebrity, etc.). If putting on a pair of slacks (dockers, etc.) for dinner in a fancy dining room is too much of a hassle... perhaps you should look elsewhere. A cruise might not be your cup of tea. IMO, enforcing the long pants kind of forces people to shower and clean up for dinner, rather than showing up sweaty, full of sun tan oil, from the pool area. Tom, I agree with all the above except that they do have formal nights in the dining room on NCL if you wish to participate. If you don't, you can go smart casual to the buffet area where they have set up tables with tablecloths and crystal and have the same menu as the main dining room. At least this was the way it was on the 15 day Norwegian Crown that we took to South America last November... On Norwegian Dawn it was different. That ship has about 9-10 different dining rooms/restaurant options. She was built for Freestyle, not just refitted for it (like the Crown). Dawn has 3 main dining rooms, each free and with the exact same menu as the other 2 that particular night. Only one was designated as formal. The other 2 were designated casual. You didn't have to go to the buffet for casual. --Tom |
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