Teaching english in Europe with no degree but TEFL certificate?

On 12/01/06 13:21, in article ,
"Mxsmanic" wrote:

David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
prestwich tesco 24h offy writes:

What is the average hourly rate in Paris, and what is the median hourly
rate in Paris then?

For what type of work? For ESL/EFL, it's about €15 per hour, which
works out to about €9 per hour net after taxes and social security.
With 20 hours a week, that's €780 per month. Apartments start at
about €500-€550 per month. Food costs a bare minimum of €100 a month
or so, depending on how much one cooks and how often one must eat away
from home. Electricity is usually about €50-€70 per month.
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Is this a theoretical calculations or actual real example?

The problem with the 20 hours a week are the weeks one does not
work, in the summer, vacation period. How does one pay the
rent in those periods?

Following up to Martin :

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:38:50 +0100, Tim C.
wrote:

Following up to Martin :

At least he has a mattress and a cooker now.

He's got a cooker? When did that happen?

During the Xmas holidays. At the same time he was given a mattress,
according to his blog. www.aprenta.blogspot.com
http://aprenta.blogspot.com/2006/01/...-and-gone.html

!!!!!!!!!!

"...I happen to rather like this kind of store, so it’s always interesting
to pay it a visit. I got some light bulbs, a rag to soak up water when it
spills on the floor,...."

--
Tim C.

Mxsmanic wrote:

Martin writes:

and?

And I don't have those

(computer and reference materials)

between classes.

Buy a laptop then. Most of my 'poor' students have one. For someone that
makes stoopid jokes about Europeans 'saving' for colour TVs, you've one
heck of a cheek.

To tell the truth, I suspect some of my full-time students earn more per
annum than you just with the bar work they do...

--
David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
http://homepage.mac.com/davidhornecomposer http://soundjunction.org

Tim C. wrote:

Following up to Martin :

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:38:50 +0100, Tim C.
wrote:

Following up to Martin :

At least he has a mattress and a cooker now.

He's got a cooker? When did that happen?

During the Xmas holidays. At the same time he was given a mattress,
according to his blog. www.aprenta.blogspot.com
http://aprenta.blogspot.com/2006/01/...-come-and-gone
.html

!!!!!!!!!!

"...I happen to rather like this kind of store, so it's always interesting
to pay it a visit. I got some light bulbs, a rag to soak up water when it
spills on the floor,...."

"...and on my hands whilst in the urinal."

--
David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
http://homepage.mac.com/davidhornecomposer http://soundjunction.org

Following up to Martin :

I'd think 40-50 hours a week to be a high estimate. My guess would be
about 35.

Mixi needs 50 hours because he's incompetent.

because he can't sleep properly in his cramped overheated chief
executive type cupboard.

and because he makes less than Eur35 a day, according to his blog, which
makes frightening reading.

--
Tim C.

Following up to Mxsmanic :

Martin writes:

Time to do some translating.

I'd need a computer and reference materials for that.

Rubbish. Print off the original and use a *pen* to write the translation on
to another piece.
--
Tim C.

Martin wrote:

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:45:18 +0000,
(David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
prestwich tesco 24h offy) wrote:
[]
He might consider moving into the rice cooker, or the fridge. The
leftovers are nearly finished, so there might be more room now!

Where would the cockroaches live?

As I wrote, the leftovers are nearly finished!

--
David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
http://homepage.mac.com/davidhornecomposer http://soundjunction.org

On 12/01/06 13:42, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

For what type of work? For ESL/EFL, it's about €15 per hour, which
works out to about €9 per hour net after taxes and social security.

Is the social security the same whether you work 20 or 40 hours a
week. Isn't there a threshold below which you pay no tax in France?

I found his example confusing. There is little income tax
or pay at the 1200/month wage level. I look at one of my aold CNRS pay
slips and the biggest items from the pay check were the SS maladie (around
10% if on includes the CSG etc) and the pension civile (ca 8%).
My take home was still 80% of my "brut imposable". One should be
getting 75-80% of the 15/hour or 12/hour not 9.

Another thing is that a lot of private teaching is "under the table",
marché noir, cash.

Next, there use to be a minimum income for those teaching freelance
in order to get a carte de sejour. Is that true still? One person
I knew had to earn well over 10,000 francs a month to get a renewal.

Following up to Martin :

A fair number of ESL/EFL teachers teach only part-time and then
reserve remaining time for something that is more lucrative but does
not provide enough work for full-time employment.

but you don't?

He just wastes the remaining time.
--
Tim C.

Martin wrote:

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 12:48:45 +0000,
(David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
prestwich tesco 24h offy) wrote:

Martin wrote:

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:45:18 +0000,
(David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
prestwich tesco 24h offy) wrote:
[]
He might consider moving into the rice cooker, or the fridge. The
leftovers are nearly finished, so there might be more room now!

Where would the cockroaches live?

As I wrote, the leftovers are nearly finished!

Did you ever read the last entries in Scott of the Antarctic's
Diaries?

The last entrails?

--
David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
http://homepage.mac.com/davidhornecomposer http://soundjunction.org