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Hiati
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 08:48:17 -0500, "Tom K"
wrote: "Brian" wrote in message .. . When the Democrats realize that private industry is important and how it works, we will have jobs created. Another stupid comment. Bye, bye. I worked in the pharmaceutical industry. The US Government has a Law that allows reduced corporate taxes if product was manufactured in Ireland instead of the US. The goal was to put jobs in Ireland instead of in the US. (Why? I don't know.) And before Ireland, it was for manufacturing in Puerto Rico. I even knew the name of the US law for manufacturing in Puerto Rico instead of in the US. It was called 936(h). At least I knew why that one was put in place. Nixon (or somebody back then) wanted to keep the communists out of Puerto Rico by creating jobs there. These laws have been in place under BOTH Democrat regimes and Republican regimes. They encourage(d) creating jobs outside the US instead of inside the US. Companies like Nike don't make anything in the US that I know of. So how many jobs have they created in the US? Yet another company like New Balance can make similar sneakers in the US and do just fine. So it's not just labor rates. More likely it was "sweetheart deals" with overseas countries. Have you guys been wondering where the jobs went? Asia took many of the jobs. China. Korea. Japan. Toyota. Honda. Nissan. Panasonic. Samsung. Sony. Clothes. Toys... the list goes on and on... But now that the jobs are gone, and people have no money, nobody's buying stuff. So both sides got screwed in the end. My son spent a semester in Berlin during his undergrad at NYU. In a European Economics class there, he said the Germans were bemoaning that they ever got involved in the Euro. It's making their costs too high... and they want to be an "EXPORT ECONOMY". They want to sell BMW's and Mercedes to everyone else.. Well everyone wants to be an export economy. Germany. Japan. China. Korea. But to have an export economy, SOMEBODY has to be the import economy. And if nobody in that import economy is working (because all the jobs have gone to the export economies) then nobody can afford all the stuff the export economies are making. DUH!!! It's not politics. It's not business. Business can make too easily make stuff in China... which creates no jobs.. It's JOBS in the USA. Plain and simple. And good paying jobs with benefits... not like at Wal Mart. --Tom |
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Hiati
On Jan 28, 8:11*pm, Brian wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 08:48:17 -0500, "Tom K" wrote: "Brian" wrote in message .. . When the Democrats realize that private industry is important and how it works, we will have jobs created. Another stupid comment. Bye, bye. I worked in the pharmaceutical industry. *The US Government has a Law that allows reduced corporate taxes if product was manufactured in Ireland instead of the US. *The goal was to put jobs in Ireland instead of in the US. *(Why? *I don't know.) *And before Ireland, it was for manufacturing in Puerto Rico. *I even knew the name of the US law for manufacturing in Puerto Rico instead of in the US. *It was called 936(h). *At least I knew why that one was put in place. *Nixon (or somebody back then) wanted to keep the communists out of Puerto Rico by creating jobs there. These laws have been in place under BOTH Democrat regimes and Republican regimes. *They encourage(d) creating jobs outside the US instead of inside the US. Companies like Nike don't make anything in the US that I know of. *So how many jobs have they created in the US? *Yet another company like New Balance can make similar sneakers in the US and do just fine. *So it's not just labor rates. *More likely it was "sweetheart deals" with overseas countries. Have you guys been wondering where the jobs went? Asia took many of the jobs. *China. *Korea. *Japan. *Toyota. *Honda. Nissan. *Panasonic. *Samsung. *Sony. *Clothes. *Toys... the list goes on and on... But now that the jobs are gone, and people have no money, nobody's buying stuff. *So both sides got screwed in the end. My son spent a semester in Berlin during his undergrad at NYU. *In a European Economics class there, he said the Germans were bemoaning that they ever got involved in the Euro. *It's making their costs too high... and they want to be an "EXPORT ECONOMY". *They want to sell BMW's and Mercedes to everyone else.. Well everyone wants to be an export economy. *Germany. *Japan. *China. Korea. *But to have an export economy, SOMEBODY has to be the import economy. *And if nobody in that import economy is working (because all the jobs have gone to the export economies) then nobody can afford all the stuff the export economies are making. DUH!!! It's not politics. *It's not business. *Business can make too easily make stuff in China... which creates no jobs.. It's JOBS in the USA. *Plain and simple. *And good paying jobs with benefits... not like at Wal Mart. --Tom And i am a union member also .And most of the guy"s i work with vote Rep. You see when you make any kind of money the Dem"s will be after it !! Most guy"s don"t want to work overtime because most of it go"s to tax"s And most unions are corrupt !! Can you say Hoffer .This is a world Economy now . You got to con pet .The problem as i see it is we became a county of paper pushes !! We don"t make much hear anymore .Big part of it was the unions asking for to much .For the job"s being don"t That"s why the unions are at an all time low hear ! That"s why the trades i think are best .Because you always need a handy man !! My Grandfather came here from Holland with just the shirt off his back .He put himself thought Copper Union .And and was a big time contractor .He did alot of the Brown stones In NJ and NYC .His other company made custom desk"s for Wall St .He didn"t expect anything from the Gov.You believe what you believe ,and i believe what i believe .And that"s the way it is .Just remember the best social program is a JOB !! And the best way to get them is get the Gov. out of the way . Ken G.......... |
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Hiati
Hi everyone
What does this conversation have to do with Haiti? (subject line) I have been away for two weeks and I guess I missed all the talk about Haiti, but nobody has seen fit to change the subject line to what is being discussed. Tobieon an Island in the Pacific "Kurt Ullman" wrote in message m... In article , Brian wrote: When the Democrats realize that private industry is important and how it works, we will have jobs created. Further exacerbated by the stand still in new small business formation because of concerns over healthcare. You can't really put up a business plan until you know all your costs. Also, healthcare costs are part of the costs of a job. Economically, a job is only worth so much, not so much plus healthcare costs just because the politicians want it to be. I see the same thing with the idea of making IRAs mandatory. -- To find that place where the rats don't race and the phones don't ring at all. If once, you've slept on an island. Scott Kirby "If once you've slept on an island" |
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