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Tokyo with a Very Young Child
In article , PTRAVEL
wrote: I think you need to find somebody to beat up on that is talking about the same thing. If I've confused you with the OP, my apologies. Actually I think I have too with another post upstream. And in any case the seminal few posts were at cross-purposes. My view is that bookending seats with a spouse is just fine. If someone actually gets plunked down in between, one or other can shift over as the needs demand. This is unrelated to infants. The idea of a ceaselessly shuffled infant between two seats, on either side OR in the same 3-seat row both sounds like a nightmare prescription. But then there are many such situations you could never guess about. While everybody finally managed to go to sleep on my last flight to Japan, there was a Thai couple, very much country folk, that were were screaming at each other, very shrill, every 15-20 minutes or so. Waking me repeatedly. Apparently I was the only one that could hear it and they were two rows back and across the aisle. I even asked a stewardess to shut them up, and she gave them the one-size-fits-all request and then evaporated. There's one I couldn't have guessed. Noice cancelling head-sets are beginning to look interesting. -- ///--- |
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Tokyo with a Very Young Child
"Gerry Scott-Moore" wrote in message d... In article , PTRAVEL wrote: I think you need to find somebody to beat up on that is talking about the same thing. If I've confused you with the OP, my apologies. Actually I think I have too with another post upstream. And in any case the seminal few posts were at cross-purposes. My view is that bookending seats with a spouse is just fine. If someone actually gets plunked down in between, one or other can shift over as the needs demand. This is unrelated to infants. I don't have any problem at all with bookending spouses -- I've done the same thing on occassion, and it's always worked out. Worst that happened was one of us would switch seats with the bookended stranger and all were happy. The idea of a ceaselessly shuffled infant between two seats, on either side OR in the same 3-seat row both sounds like a nightmare prescription. But then there are many such situations you could never guess about. It happened to me once on Cathay Pacific. I objected, long and loud, and told them I would not sit in a row that had more people than seats. Apparently, they found that argument convincing enough -- Cathay's solution was an upgrade to business class once we took off. While everybody finally managed to go to sleep on my last flight to Japan, there was a Thai couple, very much country folk, that were were screaming at each other, very shrill, every 15-20 minutes or so. Waking me repeatedly. Apparently I was the only one that could hear it and they were two rows back and across the aisle. I even asked a stewardess to shut them up, and she gave them the one-size-fits-all request and then evaporated. There's one I couldn't have guessed. Noice cancelling head-sets are beginning to look interesting. I'm on my third pair of noise cancellers. The problem with NC phones is that, though they were very well on repetitive, low-frequency noise, e.g. the roar of the jets and the rush of the air against the hull, they don't attenuate sound in the frequencies of human speech (or baby crying). In fact, they almost make it worse as they eliminate the white noise which normally could cover it a bit. However, I use mine with a good headphone amplifier and an MP3 player; listening to music at the not-so-loud-that-it's-painful-but-still-fills-your-head level helps block out almost everything. -- ///--- |
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Noise cancellers (Was: Tokyo with a Very Young Child)
"PTRAVEL" wrote:
I'm on my third pair of noise cancellers. The problem with NC phones is that, though they were very well on repetitive, low-frequency noise, e.g. the roar of the jets and the rush of the air against the hull, they don't attenuate sound in the frequencies of human speech (or baby crying). In fact, they almost make it worse as they eliminate the white noise which normally could cover it a bit. However, I use mine with a good headphone amplifier and an MP3 player; listening to music at the not-so-loud-that-it's-painful-but-still-fills-your-head level helps block out almost everything. I would agree with this advice. I use a NoiseBuster set, which I do find helps reduce the tiring background noise on long trips, but it doesn't cancel out intermittent noise such as conversation or announcements. -- Dave Fossett Saitama, Japan |
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Noise cancellers (Was: Tokyo with a Very Young Child)
In article , Dave Fossett
wrote: "PTRAVEL" wrote: I'm on my third pair of noise cancellers. The problem with NC phones is that, though they were very well on repetitive, low-frequency noise, e.g. the roar of the jets and the rush of the air against the hull, they don't attenuate sound in the frequencies of human speech (or baby crying). In fact, they almost make it worse as they eliminate the white noise which normally could cover it a bit. However, I use mine with a good headphone amplifier and an MP3 player; listening to music at the not-so-loud-that-it's-painful-but-still-fills-your-head level helps block out almost everything. And which does PTravle use? I would agree with this advice. I use a NoiseBuster set, which I do find helps reduce the tiring background noise on long trips, but it doesn't cancel out intermittent noise such as conversation or announcements. Anybody used the too-overpriced-to-buy Bose set. A friend bought them and tried to proselytize to validate his purchase. But after demo'ing his at home could see my way clear. -- ///--- |
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Noise cancellers (Was: Tokyo with a Very Young Child)
"Gerry Scott-Moore" wrote in message d... In article , Dave Fossett wrote: "PTRAVEL" wrote: I'm on my third pair of noise cancellers. The problem with NC phones is that, though they were very well on repetitive, low-frequency noise, e.g. the roar of the jets and the rush of the air against the hull, they don't attenuate sound in the frequencies of human speech (or baby crying). In fact, they almost make it worse as they eliminate the white noise which normally could cover it a bit. However, I use mine with a good headphone amplifier and an MP3 player; listening to music at the not-so-loud-that-it's-painful-but-still-fills-your-head level helps block out almost everything. And which does PTravle use? My first pair were Sony MD-NC20s. Very nice phones, but they didn't work with my MP3 player (they picked up control tones from the remote). I got a pair of Bose QuietComforts, which I've used happily for several years. Last month, I bought the new Bose QuietComfort II phones. They have better definition and bass response than the original QuietComfort phones, and are easier to carry around, too. I would agree with this advice. I use a NoiseBuster set, which I do find helps reduce the tiring background noise on long trips, but it doesn't cancel out intermittent noise such as conversation or announcements. Anybody used the too-overpriced-to-buy Bose set. Uh . . yes. A friend bought them and tried to proselytize to validate his purchase. But after demo'ing his at home could see my way clear. Were they the IIs or the original? My Sonys out-performed the original Bose QuietComfort phones. The new ones, though, are really quite nice. -- ///--- |
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Noise cancellers (Was: Tokyo with a Very Young Child)
In article , PTRAVEL
wrote: A friend bought them and tried to proselytize to validate his purchase. But after demo'ing his at home I couldn't see my way clear. Were they the IIs or the original? My Sonys out-performed the original Bose QuietComfort phones. The new ones, though, are really quite nice. After buzzing the website I'm pretty sure they are teh QC 2's. They were part of a promo only a few months back and they cost, as indicated at the website a discounted version of $300. Yikes. Damned comfortable though. One of my problems with headsets is that after 2-3 hours they really begin to hurt the outer-ear unless they are the kind that fit completely around the outside. That did not seem to be the case with this set. -- ///--- |
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Noise cancellers (Was: Tokyo with a Very Young Child)
"Gerry Scott-Moore" wrote in message d... In article , PTRAVEL wrote: A friend bought them and tried to proselytize to validate his purchase. But after demo'ing his at home I couldn't see my way clear. Were they the IIs or the original? My Sonys out-performed the original Bose QuietComfort phones. The new ones, though, are really quite nice. After buzzing the website I'm pretty sure they are teh QC 2's. They were part of a promo only a few months back and they cost, as indicated at the website a discounted version of $300. Yikes. Damned comfortable though. One of my problems with headsets is that after 2-3 hours they really begin to hurt the outer-ear unless they are the kind that fit completely around the outside. That did not seem to be the case with this set. I've worn the originals for as much as 12 hours at a time, and the IIs for 4-5 hours. The IIs, in particular, are quite comfortable. -- ///--- |
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Noise cancellers (Was: Tokyo with a Very Young Child)
In article , PTRAVEL
wrote: Damned comfortable though. One of my problems with headsets is that after 2-3 hours they really begin to hurt the outer-ear unless they are the kind that fit completely around the outside. That did not seem to be the case with this set. Bad back reference. Discomfort did not seem to be the case with the QC2's. I've worn the originals for as much as 12 hours at a time, and the IIs for 4-5 hours. The IIs, in particular, are quite comfortable. -- ///--- |
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