German stabbed to Death on PHUKET

German stabbed to death in Phuket

RAWAI, PHUKET: A German expat was stabbed to death last night outside
a 7-Eleven shop on a busy road in Rawai.

The dead man has been identified as 66-year-old Eugen Wolf-Dieter, a
resident of Ban Saiyuan in Rawai.

Police are on the hunt for three teenage suspects who beat and stabbed
Mr Wolf-Dieter before fleeing on a motorbike.

From their initial investigations, police said Mr Dieter was driving
his Toyota Vigo pick-up south along Chao Fa Road West.

As he reached Chalong Circle, a pink Yamaha Fino driving against the
flow of traffic suddenly cut across his path and drove onto the
Chalong Pier road, just missing Mr Wolf-Dieter's truck, witnesses
said.

Witnesses said Mr Wolf-Dieter got angry, shouted at the boys and then
gave them the middle finger.

Chalong Police Duty Officer Anukul Nuket received the report of the
stabbing at 7:40pm.

“The riders got angry, so they had an argument with the German and
followed him until he stopped the truck at the scene,” he said.

A fight ensued during which the German was stabbed in his chest and
stomach, he said.

The three suspects fled on their bike south toward Rawai Beach.

By the time police arrived, rescue workers from Phuket Rumjai Kupai
Foundation had already rushed Mr Wolf-Dieter to Vachira Phuket
Hospital in Phuket Town, but he died en route.

As of 11am today, Chalong Police were still searching for the
assailants.
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Land of smiles. NOT.
Posted by lord Jim
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 3:59:40 PM
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What wonderful publicity for Phuket! First the tuk-tuk drivers are
beating up tourists and now lawless teens after recklessly driving in
front of this man have the audacity to get angry and kill him!

Phuket's reputation continues to suffer at the hands of these lawless
thugs! The "prisoners are running the jail" in Phuket and if the
police do not get this crime fest under control there will be a big
price to pay. The police need to stop worrying about collecting 200
baht fines for minor issues and focus on crime prevention.
Posted by tommy
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:04:18 PM
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People get killed in Thailand so easy and no witnesses because we all
too afraid to get involved. So everyone just stands there and watches,
and after someone is hurt or dead they all say they saw nothing. We
need help from the police, and the police also need our help. Stop the
Thai moong thing and do something to help!
Posted by aussiejoy
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:12:02 PM
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I hope that they'll get these cowards and let them rot in prison.
Posted by Islander
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:17:48 PM
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Just a few short years ago, things like this were unheard of. Just
what is happening to this beautiful island? The levels of violence
just keep increasing, yet the authorities don't seem to care enough to
get tough on these criminals.
Posted by Tom
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:27:01 PM
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If the violence continues I will be changing my retirement plans to
calmer waters, ike Malaysia.
Posted by Scotty
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:35:59 PM
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Too many deaths by stabbing or shooting. Why don't the police stop and
search motorbike riders for such weapons? These aren't legal in this
country, I suppose, so why not take action in this direction from time
to time – as a measure of prevention? They'll sure catch some long
wanted fish that way!
Posted by dieter
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:39:02 PM
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Why do we NEVER hear about a one-on-one fight in Thailand? If Muay
Thai is supposedly so awesome (which it's not), why do these cowards
always fight with weapons and always with overwhelming odds? This is
pathetic. It's a mess in Thailand now.
Posted by Dave Williams
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:59:39 PM
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The police need to stop bothering about catching farang without
helmets and get out there and attend to more important issues. A good
place to start would be to apprehend all these guys who flout the road
rules as many incidents are caused through such carelessness – as they
know the police will do nothing.
Posted by Dave Lombardi
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:10:21 PM
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Let's hope for real justice. Long sentences might prevent further
deaths
Posted by john webb
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:20:06 PM
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I am saddened by this latest tragedy. Phuket is becoming a very unsafe
place to be. I agree that if something is not done soon there will be
a price to pay. Right now it's the foreigners paying the price with
there lives. I hope these thugs, or should I say cowards, are caught
and dealt with severely. They should receive the same treatment they
dished out.
Posted by rg
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:21:46 PM
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Respect older people? Land of Smiles? Phuket is clearly not safe
anymore. Way too many incidents like this, with too many foreigners
hurt or killed during the past few weeks!

What do the police in Chalong do, anyway. Do they just check
foreigners for helmets and driving licenses?
Posted by moskito
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:22:41 PM
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Did not anybody tell this German that it is the god-given right of
young Thais to drive wherever they wish? The police are not teaching
them and neither are their parents. And to give them the finger salute
is a big mistake!
Posted by Guenter Bellach
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:42:48 PM
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I don't think that you can expect Chalong police to 'just happen' to
be at the exact place at the at exact time of a murder. It doesn't
happen with any other police force, in any other place on the planet!
This is a social problem, linked to poverty and education, just like
the steep rise in knife crime in Europe. Remember that place?
Posted by Jon
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:46:19 PM
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I'm not surprised that it happens in Rawai. Rawai, Chalong, Kata and
Karon are unsafe areas because the police have been quite there over
the past few years.
Posted by Satip
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:49:06 PM
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I am retired and have been living for many years with my Thai wife on
this ex-wonderful island, which remained a very nice place for living
until 4-5 years ago. We've decided to move soon to another province in
Thailand, leaving Phuket to its 'authorities', to the gangs, to the
scams, to the tuk-tuks, to the salaeng (illegal, but thousands of them
anyway), to the jet-skis, to all the vendors and touts (especially in
Patong) that jam the sidewalks, etc.

Phuket has become just a factory, obviously attracting the worst, but
there are so many other provinces in Thailand where life and the
people are so nice, and authentic. Pai! ('Let's go', in Thai.)
Posted by sm
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:49:31 PM
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Don't get me wrong; I'm 100% against this type of violent behavior.
This type of 'road rage' is insane and should not be tolerated by any
society. But how hard is it to understand that you do NOT give the
finger in this country? While it is not acceptable behavior even in
Europe, it is an extreme personal insult in Thai society. Not long ago
on this site there was another report of a German giving the finger in
traffic. He, too, ended up dead on the site, by shooting in that
particular incident.
Posted by Michael
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:06:00 PM
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It seems the local authorities don't have the skill or the will to
crack down on the HUGE number of murders here on Phuket.
Posted by Concerned
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:24:56 PM
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Welcome to the land of: "Of course you can kill and get away with it
as long as you wear a helmet while riding your motorbike".
Posted by olov hallberg
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:30:55 PM
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1. How did the witnesses see him flip the finger to the guy? Who were
they? They saw the German get angry and followed him to where he was
stabbed? Or some random people came forward and just said they saw
this as they put 2 and 2 together. Looks like the police are trying to
'justify' it.

2. Who said these things never happened before? They did; they are
just reported more I think. Four years ago someone tried to attack me
on my bike. This was at 3pm in Kata 5. All these expensive villas in
Rawai and the unsuspecting investors don't realize the area is
infested with killers and thieves.

I'll bet they'll arrest the perpetrators of this murder and let them
out the same day. LIke the tuk-tuk driver. Where is he now?
Posted by Vfaye
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:41:04 PM
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This is just one in a long, long stream of crimes against foreigners
over the past couple of years. Thailand is no longer safe. Every
farang who dreams about retirement in Thailand should give that idea a
second thought.
Posted by gunnar
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:46:11 PM
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Just a thought... not trying to justify this, but isn't giving the
middle finger issuing a challenge? After which we'd better be damn
sure we can back up?
Posted by Just a thought ...
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:48:29 PM
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Seems to me this sort of thing happens all too often. Then a few days
later it's forgotten by all except those who knew the victim. It also
seems to me that a fund to offer a reward/incentive to the police to
catch and prosecute the guilty might help. If everyone living here
that gave a damn chipped in at least a few hundred baht it might add
up to enough to make a difference. Just need someone trustworthy to
hold the funds!
Posted by Stuart
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:52:03 PM
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Phuket pays his bill already. Less tourists every year and a big
decline in quality. Only low-key people arrive. They do not spend much
and avoid high paying venues. That is one result of non-protection of
foreign tourists by the Thai government. But the rapidly rising crime
rate is only one of the many developments that have conspired to
destroy Phuket as a tourist destination.
Posted by Peter Czasch
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:56:20 PM
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The police do actually stop vehicles and check for weapons, but they
can't stop every motorbike on this island. Gang crime happens all over
the world now, also in western countries, sad but true. Most people
avoid being confronted with dangerous animals in the wild; they should
do the same on the streets.
Posted by Nicolas
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:57:32 PM
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Lesson: Don't shout or give the middle finger to a Thai, and
especially not a young punk in the company of his friends. So beware
of the farang-temper. When mixed with the local ego, it can get you in
big, big trouble.

May the deceased RIP.
Posted by Jens
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:26:27 PM
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Just another reason why my family will not ever visit Phuket. What on
earth is going on down there?
Posted by Mr. Don
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:52:06 PM
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The very obvious tuk-tuk banditry on the island has shown the Phuket
police to be quite weak. One result of the weakness is that every
young hood with an attitude feels free to do whatever he pleases to
anyone he likes. They believe, often rightly, that there are no
consequences that can't be negotiated away or intimidated out of sight
from the limp-wristed arm of the law here. Condolences to Mr Wolf-
Dieter's family.
Posted by Phuket insider
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:54:40 PM
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Just a few short years ago, things like this were unheard of. Just
what is happening to this beautiful island? The levels of violence
just keep increasing, yet the authorities don't seem to care enough to
get tough on these criminals.
Posted by Tom Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:27:01 PM
This is a beautiful island still, but for how long? I agree, what is
going on? Especially in the south of the island in places like Rawai.
Is this to become a no-go area for Westerner? The Thai police don't
seem to care very much about serious crime so long as they can
continue to raise money through small stuff like traffic fines, etc.
It never never used to be like this, and I suspect a lot of the so-
called locals are not from Phuket at all. They've come here from other
areas of Thailand to share in the 'easy pickings' arising from the
heavy presence of foreigners here.
Posted by kamala girl
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:56:56 PM
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Lesson: Don't shout or give the middle finger to a Thai, and
especially not a young punk in the company of his friends. So beware
of the farang-temper. When mixed with the local ego, it can get you in
big, big trouble.

May the deceased RIP.
Posted by Jens Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:26:27 PM
Jens, you are so right. Best to just turn the other cheek and let it
pass. Remember you are not home!
Posted by Mr Don
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:58:01 PM
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Respect older people? Land of Smiles? Phuket is clearly not safe
anymore. Way too many incidents like this, with too many foreigners
hurt or killed during the past few weeks!

What do the police in Chalong do, anyway. Do they just check
foreigners for helmets and driving licenses?
Posted by moskito Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:22:41 PM
"What do the police in Chalong do, anyway. Do they just check
foreigners for helmets and driving licenses?"

This is the quickest way for them to make easy money.
Posted by Richard
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 8:06:23 PM
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Every time I read an article like this it makes me happy that I left
Phuket nearly two years ago. I lived in Rawai and it was getting
pretty bad before we left, and it seems the police still have not got
a handle on it. What a shame. May the victim RIP and may the cowardly
youths go to jail.
Posted by Val
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 8:19:30 PM
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This unfortunate man made an ill-advised gesture and paid with his
life. But however many of these violent incidents are reported,
somehow the Phuket Gazette never manages to properly describe the full
circumstances leading up to the act of violence.

The articles are full of vagueness and innuendo, instead of facts. In
this instance, what time did the incident occur? (The time the police
heard about it is of little interest or relevance.) How many witnesses
were there? How many stab wounds were inflicted and how deep were
they, and where upon his body was the fatal wound?

Was the victim traveling alone? Where was he going and coming from?
Posted by Bystander
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 8:39:59 PM
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I was extremely saddened to read of another foreigner killed/murdered
in Thailand. I have had several visits to Phuket and other areas of
Thailand over the past 20 years, but with the news of killings/murders
of foreigners in the recent past I now consider Thailand as an extreme
safety risk and plan to take my future vacations in Bali. At least
there I am more confident of being able to use my return air ticket.
Sad but true.
Posted by Aussie Frank
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 8:40:29 PM
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This is a clear example of how things are going in Phuket. Driving is
now very dangerous, and the police do not patrol the roads, and
motorbikes and tuk-tuks are breaking every sort of traffic rule
without fear of being arrested. Where is the law?
Posted by Tony
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 8:40:30 PM
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Lesson: Don't shout or give the middle finger to a Thai, and
especially not a young punk in the company of his friends. So beware
of the farang-temper. When mixed with the local ego, it can get you in
big, big trouble.

May the deceased RIP.
Posted by Jens Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:26:27 PM
Jens, you are so right. Best to just turn the other cheek and let it
pass. Remember you are not home!
Posted by Mr Don Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:58:01 PM
Yep, just be a complete coward and never stand up for yourself just
because you live in a place or visit a place where little punks carry
weapons and gang up on victims and KILL them for something as trivial
as a middle finger. Sorry, but I fight back and will continue to fight
back. The problem is that these cowards don't mess with anyone other
than old men, old ladies and sissies who can't fight. But I can... and
will!
Posted by Dave Williams
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 8:40:32 PM
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Lesson: Don't shout or give the middle finger to a Thai, and
especially not a young punk in the company of his friends. So beware
of the farang-temper. When mixed with the local ego, it can get you in
big, big trouble.

May the deceased RIP.
Posted by Jens Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:26:27 PM
"Farang temper!" How dare you! These cowards killed a man because they
couldn't control their temper.
Posted by Dave Williams
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 8:42:32 PM
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This is not only a Phuket 'thing but a 'Thailand' thing. And I don't
agree with the comments saying that the police have to stop checking
people for wearing helmets and instead focus on criminals. They have
to do both! You still have a greater chance of being killed in a road
accident in Phuket than you do of being murdered.
Posted by Terry
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 8:54:03 PM
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I was born here in Phuket and have lived on the way to Ao-Makham Bay
for sixty years already. Every time I have had to go to the Chalong,
Rawai or Patong areas (such as when we had friends from other places
visiting Phuket), I wondered why so many of you like to live or go
there. Those places are really the worst for me.
Posted by pc
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 9:02:03 PM
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I am retired and have been living for many years with my Thai wife on
this ex-wonderful island, which remained a very nice place for living
until 4-5 years ago. We've decided to move soon to another province in
Thailand, leaving Phuket to its 'authorities', to the gangs, to the
scams, to the tuk-tuks, to the salaeng (illegal, but thousands of them
anyway), to the jet-skis, to all the vendors and touts (especially in
Patong) that jam the sidewalks, etc.

Phuket has become just a factory, obviously attracting the worst, but
there are so many other provinces in Thailand where life and the
people are so nice, and authentic. Pai! ('Let's go', in Thai.)
Posted by sm Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:49:31 PM
Like yourself, I have lived here on the island with my Thai wife for
many years (12). But something happened here about 4-5 years ago and,
like yourself, we also see Phuket becoming an incredibly dangerous
place to live. We're selling the home and getting out before we too
become statistics. The newspapers over the past 5 years are full of
reports about someone getting murdered – Thais, tourists, expat
residents.... Nobody is safe here.
Posted by Ian
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 9:04:35 PM
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Unfortunately, the police have to accept some responsibility, if not
guilt, over the increasing amount of violent crime. Look the
difference between Phuket Town and Rawai. Rawai and Chalong are like
the Wild West. Nobody wears a helmet; in the night young Thai boys
race modified motorbikes very, very fast; and many bars and discos
openly ignore the closing time.

And the police? They only go around during the day to collect money
and arrest farang right IN Chalong Circle, thereby making a total mess
of a traffic jam. Do you ever see any kind of check-point during the
night? Sometimes the police just stop in front of 7-Eleven and
continue to do absolutely nothing there.
Posted by dave
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 9:05:46 PM
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The police need to stop bothering about catching farang without
helmets and get out there and attend to more important issues. A good
place to start would be to apprehend all these guys who flout the road
rules as many incidents are caused through such carelessness – as they
know the police will do nothing.
Posted by Dave Lombardi Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:10:21 PM
Farang without helmets are flouting the road rules too! Are you to be
apprehended? If you wear your helmet the police might have time for
other matters.
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Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 9:12:40 PM
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Land of smiles. NOT.
Posted by lord Jim Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 3:59:40 PM
YES. Land of primitive!
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Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 9:21:01 PM
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Someone wrote already in this forum that Rawai is becoming like
Patong: many bars with ladies and Katoey, discotheques, lots of
alcohol and drugs (believe me). But in Patong there are a lot of
police (the majority in plain clothes), and Patong is a place for
farang. Rawai is a Thai place and very few police. Why do young thugs
and gangsters from Phuket Town come here in the night? Answer: No Law
Enforcement!
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German stabbed to death in Phuket

RAWAI, PHUKET: A German expat was stabbed to death last night outside
a 7-Eleven shop on a busy road in Rawai.

The dead man has been identified as 66-year-old Eugen Wolf-Dieter, a
resident of Ban Saiyuan in Rawai.

Police are on the hunt for three teenage suspects who beat and stabbed
Mr Wolf-Dieter before fleeing on a motorbike.

From their initial investigations, police said Mr Dieter was driving
his Toyota Vigo pick-up south along Chao Fa Road West.

As he reached Chalong Circle, a pink Yamaha Fino driving against the
flow of traffic suddenly cut across his path and drove onto the
Chalong Pier road, just missing Mr Wolf-Dieter's truck, witnesses
said.

Witnesses said Mr Wolf-Dieter got angry, shouted at the boys and then
gave them the middle finger.

Chalong Police Duty Officer Anukul Nuket received the report of the
stabbing at 7:40pm.

“The riders got angry, so they had an argument with the German and
followed him until he stopped the truck at the scene,” he said.

A fight ensued during which the German was stabbed in his chest and
stomach, he said.

The three suspects fled on their bike south toward Rawai Beach.

By the time police arrived, rescue workers from Phuket Rumjai Kupai
Foundation had already rushed Mr Wolf-Dieter to Vachira Phuket
Hospital in Phuket Town, but he died en route.

As of 11am today, Chalong Police were still searching for the
assailants.
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Land of smiles. NOT.
Posted by lord Jim
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 3:59:40 PM
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What wonderful publicity for Phuket! First the tuk-tuk drivers are
beating up tourists and now lawless teens after recklessly driving in
front of this man have the audacity to get angry and kill him!

Phuket's reputation continues to suffer at the hands of these lawless
thugs! The "prisoners are running the jail" in Phuket and if the
police do not get this crime fest under control there will be a big
price to pay. The police need to stop worrying about collecting 200
baht fines for minor issues and focus on crime prevention.
Posted by tommy
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:04:18 PM
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People get killed in Thailand so easy and no witnesses because we all
too afraid to get involved. So everyone just stands there and watches,
and after someone is hurt or dead they all say they saw nothing. We
need help from the police, and the police also need our help. Stop the
Thai moong thing and do something to help!
Posted by aussiejoy
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:12:02 PM
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I hope that they'll get these cowards and let them rot in prison.
Posted by Islander
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:17:48 PM
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Just a few short years ago, things like this were unheard of. Just
what is happening to this beautiful island? The levels of violence
just keep increasing, yet the authorities don't seem to care enough to
get tough on these criminals.
Posted by Tom
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:27:01 PM
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If the violence continues I will be changing my retirement plans to
calmer waters, ike Malaysia.
Posted by Scotty
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:35:59 PM
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Too many deaths by stabbing or shooting. Why don't the police stop and
search motorbike riders for such weapons? These aren't legal in this
country, I suppose, so why not take action in this direction from time
to time – as a measure of prevention? They'll sure catch some long
wanted fish that way!
Posted by dieter
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:39:02 PM
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Why do we NEVER hear about a one-on-one fight in Thailand? If Muay
Thai is supposedly so awesome (which it's not), why do these cowards
always fight with weapons and always with overwhelming odds? This is
pathetic. It's a mess in Thailand now.
Posted by Dave Williams
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:59:39 PM
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The police need to stop bothering about catching farang without
helmets and get out there and attend to more important issues. A good
place to start would be to apprehend all these guys who flout the road
rules as many incidents are caused through such carelessness – as they
know the police will do nothing.
Posted by Dave Lombardi
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:10:21 PM
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Let's hope for real justice. Long sentences might prevent further
deaths
Posted by john webb
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:20:06 PM
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I am saddened by this latest tragedy. Phuket is becoming a very unsafe
place to be. I agree that if something is not done soon there will be
a price to pay. Right now it's the foreigners paying the price with
there lives. I hope these thugs, or should I say cowards, are caught
and dealt with severely. They should receive the same treatment they
dished out.
Posted by rg
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:21:46 PM
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Respect older people? Land of Smiles? Phuket is clearly not safe
anymore. Way too many incidents like this, with too many foreigners
hurt or killed during the past few weeks!

What do the police in Chalong do, anyway. Do they just check
foreigners for helmets and driving licenses?
Posted by moskito
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:22:41 PM
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Did not anybody tell this German that it is the god-given right of
young Thais to drive wherever they wish? The police are not teaching
them and neither are their parents. And to give them the finger salute
is a big mistake!
Posted by Guenter Bellach
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:42:48 PM
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I don't think that you can expect Chalong police to 'just happen' to
be at the exact place at the at exact time of a murder. It doesn't
happen with any other police force, in any other place on the planet!
This is a social problem, linked to poverty and education, just like
the steep rise in knife crime in Europe. Remember that place?
Posted by Jon
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:46:19 PM
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I'm not surprised that it happens in Rawai. Rawai, Chalong, Kata and
Karon are unsafe areas because the police have been quite there over
the past few years.
Posted by Satip
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:49:06 PM
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I am retired and have been living for many years with my Thai wife on
this ex-wonderful island, which remained a very nice place for living
until 4-5 years ago. We've decided to move soon to another province in
Thailand, leaving Phuket to its 'authorities', to the gangs, to the
scams, to the tuk-tuks, to the salaeng (illegal, but thousands of them
anyway), to the jet-skis, to all the vendors and touts (especially in
Patong) that jam the sidewalks, etc.

Phuket has become just a factory, obviously attracting the worst, but
there are so many other provinces in Thailand where life and the
people are so nice, and authentic. Pai! ('Let's go', in Thai.)
Posted by sm
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:49:31 PM
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Don't get me wrong; I'm 100% against this type of violent behavior.
This type of 'road rage' is insane and should not be tolerated by any
society. But how hard is it to understand that you do NOT give the
finger in this country? While it is not acceptable behavior even in
Europe, it is an extreme personal insult in Thai society. Not long ago
on this site there was another report of a German giving the finger in
traffic. He, too, ended up dead on the site, by shooting in that
particular incident.
Posted by Michael
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:06:00 PM
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It seems the local authorities don't have the skill or the will to
crack down on the HUGE number of murders here on Phuket.
Posted by Concerned
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:24:56 PM
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Welcome to the land of: "Of course you can kill and get away with it
as long as you wear a helmet while riding your motorbike".
Posted by olov hallberg
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:30:55 PM
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1. How did the witnesses see him flip the finger to the guy? Who were
they? They saw the German get angry and followed him to where he was
stabbed? Or some random people came forward and just said they saw
this as they put 2 and 2 together. Looks like the police are trying to
'justify' it.

2. Who said these things never happened before? They did; they are
just reported more I think. Four years ago someone tried to attack me
on my bike. This was at 3pm in Kata 5. All these expensive villas in
Rawai and the unsuspecting investors don't realize the area is
infested with killers and thieves.

I'll bet they'll arrest the perpetrators of this murder and let them
out the same day. LIke the tuk-tuk driver. Where is he now?
Posted by Vfaye
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:41:04 PM
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This is just one in a long, long stream of crimes against foreigners
over the past couple of years. Thailand is no longer safe. Every
farang who dreams about retirement in Thailand should give that idea a
second thought.
Posted by gunnar
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:46:11 PM
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Just a thought... not trying to justify this, but isn't giving the
middle finger issuing a challenge? After which we'd better be damn
sure we can back up?
Posted by Just a thought ...
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:48:29 PM
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Seems to me this sort of thing happens all too often. Then a few days
later it's forgotten by all except those who knew the victim. It also
seems to me that a fund to offer a reward/incentive to the police to
catch and prosecute the guilty might help. If everyone living here
that gave a damn chipped in at least a few hundred baht it might add
up to enough to make a difference. Just need someone trustworthy to
hold the funds!
Posted by Stuart
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:52:03 PM
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Phuket pays his bill already. Less tourists every year and a big
decline in quality. Only low-key people arrive. They do not spend much
and avoid high paying venues. That is one result of non-protection of
foreign tourists by the Thai government. But the rapidly rising crime
rate is only one of the many developments that have conspired to
destroy Phuket as a tourist destination.
Posted by Peter Czasch
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:56:20 PM
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The police do actually stop vehicles and check for weapons, but they
can't stop every motorbike on this island. Gang crime happens all over
the world now, also in western countries, sad but true. Most people
avoid being confronted with dangerous animals in the wild; they should
do the same on the streets.
Posted by Nicolas
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:57:32 PM
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Lesson: Don't shout or give the middle finger to a Thai, and
especially not a young punk in the company of his friends. So beware
of the farang-temper. When mixed with the local ego, it can get you in
big, big trouble.

May the deceased RIP.
Posted by Jens
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:26:27 PM
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Just another reason why my family will not ever visit Phuket. What on
earth is going on down there?
Posted by Mr. Don
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:52:06 PM
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The very obvious tuk-tuk banditry on the island has shown the Phuket
police to be quite weak. One result of the weakness is that every
young hood with an attitude feels free to do whatever he pleases to
anyone he likes. They believe, often rightly, that there are no
consequences that can't be negotiated away or intimidated out of sight
from the limp-wristed arm of the law here. Condolences to Mr Wolf-
Dieter's family.
Posted by Phuket insider
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:54:40 PM
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Just a few short years ago, things like this were unheard of. Just
what is happening to this beautiful island? The levels of violence
just keep increasing, yet the authorities don't seem to care enough to
get tough on these criminals.
Posted by Tom Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:27:01 PM
This is a beautiful island still, but for how long? I agree, what is
going on? Especially in the south of the island in places like Rawai.
Is this to become a no-go area for Westerner? The Thai police don't
seem to care very much about serious crime so long as they can
continue to raise money through small stuff like traffic fines, etc.
It never never used to be like this, and I suspect a lot of the so-
called locals are not from Phuket at all. They've come here from other
areas of Thailand to share in the 'easy pickings' arising from the
heavy presence of foreigners here.
Posted by kamala girl
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:56:56 PM
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Lesson: Don't shout or give the middle finger to a Thai, and
especially not a young punk in the company of his friends. So beware
of the farang-temper. When mixed with the local ego, it can get you in
big, big trouble.

May the deceased RIP.
Posted by Jens Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:26:27 PM
Jens, you are so right. Best to just turn the other cheek and let it
pass. Remember you are not home!
Posted by Mr Don
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:58:01 PM
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Respect older people? Land of Smiles? Phuket is clearly not safe
anymore. Way too many incidents like this, with too many foreigners
hurt or killed during the past few weeks!

What do the police in Chalong do, anyway. Do they just check
foreigners for helmets and driving licenses?
Posted by moskito Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:22:41 PM
"What do the police in Chalong do, anyway. Do they just check
foreigners for helmets and driving licenses?"

This is the quickest way for them to make easy money.
Posted by Richard
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 8:06:23 PM
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Every time I read an article like this it makes me happy that I left
Phuket nearly two years ago. I lived in Rawai and it was getting
pretty bad before we left, and it seems the police still have not got
a handle on it. What a shame. May the victim RIP and may the cowardly
youths go to jail.
Posted by Val
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 8:19:30 PM
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This unfortunate man made an ill-advised gesture and paid with his
life. But however many of these violent incidents are reported,
somehow the Phuket Gazette never manages to properly describe the full
circumstances leading up to the act of violence.

The articles are full of vagueness and innuendo, instead of facts. In
this instance, what time did the incident occur? (The time the police
heard about it is of little interest or relevance.) How many witnesses
were there? How many stab wounds were inflicted and how deep were
they, and where upon his body was the fatal wound?

Was the victim traveling alone? Where was he going and coming from?
Posted by Bystander
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 8:39:59 PM
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I was extremely saddened to read of another foreigner killed/murdered
in Thailand. I have had several visits to Phuket and other areas of
Thailand over the past 20 years, but with the news of killings/murders
of foreigners in the recent past I now consider Thailand as an extreme
safety risk and plan to take my future vacations in Bali. At least
there I am more confident of being able to use my return air ticket.
Sad but true.
Posted by Aussie Frank
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 8:40:29 PM
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This is a clear example of how things are going in Phuket. Driving is
now very dangerous, and the police do not patrol the roads, and
motorbikes and tuk-tuks are breaking every sort of traffic rule
without fear of being arrested. Where is the law?
Posted by Tony
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 8:40:30 PM
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Lesson: Don't shout or give the middle finger to a Thai, and
especially not a young punk in the company of his friends. So beware
of the farang-temper. When mixed with the local ego, it can get you in
big, big trouble.

May the deceased RIP.
Posted by Jens Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:26:27 PM
Jens, you are so right. Best to just turn the other cheek and let it
pass. Remember you are not home!
Posted by Mr Don Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:58:01 PM
Yep, just be a complete coward and never stand up for yourself just
because you live in a place or visit a place where little punks carry
weapons and gang up on victims and KILL them for something as trivial
as a middle finger. Sorry, but I fight back and will continue to fight
back. The problem is that these cowards don't mess with anyone other
than old men, old ladies and sissies who can't fight. But I can... and
will!
Posted by Dave Williams
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 8:40:32 PM
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Lesson: Don't shout or give the middle finger to a Thai, and
especially not a young punk in the company of his friends. So beware
of the farang-temper. When mixed with the local ego, it can get you in
big, big trouble.

May the deceased RIP.
Posted by Jens Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:26:27 PM
"Farang temper!" How dare you! These cowards killed a man because they
couldn't control their temper.
Posted by Dave Williams
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 8:42:32 PM
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This is not only a Phuket 'thing but a 'Thailand' thing. And I don't
agree with the comments saying that the police have to stop checking
people for wearing helmets and instead focus on criminals. They have
to do both! You still have a greater chance of being killed in a road
accident in Phuket than you do of being murdered.
Posted by Terry
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 8:54:03 PM
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I was born here in Phuket and have lived on the way to Ao-Makham Bay
for sixty years already. Every time I have had to go to the Chalong,
Rawai or Patong areas (such as when we had friends from other places
visiting Phuket), I wondered why so many of you like to live or go
there. Those places are really the worst for me.
Posted by pc
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 9:02:03 PM
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I am retired and have been living for many years with my Thai wife on
this ex-wonderful island, which remained a very nice place for living
until 4-5 years ago. We've decided to move soon to another province in
Thailand, leaving Phuket to its 'authorities', to the gangs, to the
scams, to the tuk-tuks, to the salaeng (illegal, but thousands of them
anyway), to the jet-skis, to all the vendors and touts (especially in
Patong) that jam the sidewalks, etc.

Phuket has become just a factory, obviously attracting the worst, but
there are so many other provinces in Thailand where life and the
people are so nice, and authentic. Pai! ('Let's go', in Thai.)
Posted by sm Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:49:31 PM
Like yourself, I have lived here on the island with my Thai wife for
many years (12). But something happened here about 4-5 years ago and,
like yourself, we also see Phuket becoming an incredibly dangerous
place to live. We're selling the home and getting out before we too
become statistics. The newspapers over the past 5 years are full of
reports about someone getting murdered – Thais, tourists, expat
residents.... Nobody is safe here.
Posted by Ian
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 9:04:35 PM
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Unfortunately, the police have to accept some responsibility, if not
guilt, over the increasing amount of violent crime. Look the
difference between Phuket Town and Rawai. Rawai and Chalong are like
the Wild West. Nobody wears a helmet; in the night young Thai boys
race modified motorbikes very, very fast; and many bars and discos
openly ignore the closing time.

And the police? They only go around during the day to collect money
and arrest farang right IN Chalong Circle, thereby making a total mess
of a traffic jam. Do you ever see any kind of check-point during the
night? Sometimes the police just stop in front of 7-Eleven and
continue to do absolutely nothing there.
Posted by dave
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 9:05:46 PM
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The police need to stop bothering about catching farang without
helmets and get out there and attend to more important issues. A good
place to start would be to apprehend all these guys who flout the road
rules as many incidents are caused through such carelessness – as they
know the police will do nothing.
Posted by Dave Lombardi Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:10:21 PM
Farang without helmets are flouting the road rules too! Are you to be
apprehended? If you wear your helmet the police might have time for
other matters.
Posted by Phuket regular
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 9:12:40 PM
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Land of smiles. NOT.
Posted by lord Jim Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 3:59:40 PM
YES. Land of primitive!
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Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 9:21:01 PM
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Someone wrote already in this forum that Rawai is becoming like
Patong: many bars with ladies and Katoey, discotheques, lots of
alcohol and drugs (believe me). But in Patong there are a lot of
police (the majority in plain clothes), and Patong is a place for
farang. Rawai is a Thai place and very few police. Why do young thugs
and gangsters from Phuket Town come here in the night? Answer: No Law
Enforcement!
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German stabbed to death in Phuket

RAWAI, PHUKET: A German expat was stabbed to death last night outside
a 7-Eleven shop on a busy road in Rawai.

The dead man has been identified as 66-year-old Eugen Wolf-Dieter, a
resident of Ban Saiyuan in Rawai.

Police are on the hunt for three teenage suspects who beat and stabbed
Mr Wolf-Dieter before fleeing on a motorbike.

From their initial investigations, police said Mr Dieter was driving
his Toyota Vigo pick-up south along Chao Fa Road West.

As he reached Chalong Circle, a pink Yamaha Fino driving against the
flow of traffic suddenly cut across his path and drove onto the
Chalong Pier road, just missing Mr Wolf-Dieter's truck, witnesses
said.

Witnesses said Mr Wolf-Dieter got angry, shouted at the boys and then
gave them the middle finger.

Chalong Police Duty Officer Anukul Nuket received the report of the
stabbing at 7:40pm.

“The riders got angry, so they had an argument with the German and
followed him until he stopped the truck at the scene,” he said.

A fight ensued during which the German was stabbed in his chest and
stomach, he said.

The three suspects fled on their bike south toward Rawai Beach.

By the time police arrived, rescue workers from Phuket Rumjai Kupai
Foundation had already rushed Mr Wolf-Dieter to Vachira Phuket
Hospital in Phuket Town, but he died en route.

As of 11am today, Chalong Police were still searching for the
assailants.
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Land of smiles. NOT.
*Posted by lord Jim
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 3:59:40 PM
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What wonderful publicity for Phuket! First the tuk-tuk drivers are
beating up tourists and now lawless teens after recklessly driving in
front of this man have the audacity to get angry and kill him!

Phuket's reputation continues to suffer at the hands of these lawless
thugs! The "prisoners are running the jail" in Phuket and if the
police do not get this crime fest under control there will be a big
price to pay. The police need to stop worrying about collecting 200
baht fines for minor issues and focus on crime prevention.
*Posted by tommy
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:04:18 PM
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People get killed in Thailand so easy and no witnesses because we all
too afraid to get involved. So everyone just stands there and watches,
and after someone is hurt or dead they all say they saw nothing. We
need help from the police, and the police also need our help. Stop the
Thai moong thing and do something to help!
*Posted by aussiejoy
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:12:02 PM
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I hope that they'll get these cowards and let them rot in prison.
*Posted by Islander
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:17:48 PM
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Just a few short years ago, things like this were unheard of. Just
what is happening to this beautiful island? The levels of violence
just keep increasing, yet the authorities don't seem to care enough to
get tough on these criminals.
*Posted by Tom
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:27:01 PM
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If the violence continues I will be changing my retirement plans to
calmer waters, ike Malaysia.
*Posted by Scotty
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:35:59 PM
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Too many deaths by stabbing or shooting. Why don't the police stop and
search motorbike riders for such weapons? These aren't legal in this
country, I suppose, so why not take action in this direction from time
to time – as a measure of prevention? They'll sure catch some long
wanted fish that way!
*Posted by dieter
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:39:02 PM
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Why do we NEVER hear about a one-on-one fight in Thailand? If Muay
Thai is supposedly so awesome (which it's not), why do these cowards
always fight with weapons and always with overwhelming odds? This is
pathetic. It's a mess in Thailand now.
*Posted by Dave Williams
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The police need to stop bothering about catching farang without
helmets and get out there and attend to more important issues. A good
place to start would be to apprehend all these guys who flout the road
rules as many incidents are caused through such carelessness – as they
know the police will do nothing.
*Posted by Dave Lombardi
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Let's hope for real justice. Long sentences might prevent further
deaths
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I am saddened by this latest tragedy. Phuket is becoming a very unsafe
place to be. I agree that if something is not done soon there will be
a price to pay. Right now it's the foreigners paying the price with
there lives. I hope these thugs, or should I say cowards, are caught
and dealt with severely. They should receive the same treatment they
dished out.
*Posted by rg
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:21:46 PM
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Respect older people? Land of Smiles? Phuket is clearly not safe
anymore. Way too many incidents like this, with too many foreigners
hurt or killed during the past few weeks!

What do the police in Chalong do, anyway. Do they just check
foreigners for helmets and driving licenses?
*Posted by moskito
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:22:41 PM
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Did not anybody tell this German that it is the god-given right of
young Thais to drive wherever they wish? The police are not teaching
them and neither are their parents. And to give them the finger salute
is a big mistake!
*Posted by Guenter Bellach
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:42:48 PM
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I don't think that you can expect Chalong police to 'just happen' to
be at the exact place at the at exact time of a murder. It doesn't
happen with any other police force, in any other place on the planet!
This is a social problem, linked to poverty and education, just like
the steep rise in knife crime in Europe. Remember that place?
*Posted by Jon
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I'm not surprised that it happens in Rawai. Rawai, Chalong, Kata and
Karon are unsafe areas because the police have been quite there over
the past few years.
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I am retired and have been living for many years with my Thai wife on
this ex-wonderful island, which remained a very nice place for living
until 4-5 years ago. We've decided to move soon to another province in
Thailand, leaving Phuket to its 'authorities', to the gangs, to the
scams, to the tuk-tuks, to the salaeng (illegal, but thousands of them
anyway), to the jet-skis, to all the vendors and touts (especially in
Patong) that jam the sidewalks, etc.

Phuket has become just a factory, obviously attracting the worst, but
there are so many other provinces in Thailand where life and the
people are so nice, and authentic. Pai! ('Let's go', in Thai.)
*Posted by sm
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Don't get me wrong; I'm 100% against this type of violent behavior.
This type of 'road rage' is insane and should not be tolerated by any
society. But how hard is it to understand that you do NOT give the
finger in this country? While it is not acceptable behavior even in
Europe, it is an extreme personal insult in Thai society. Not long ago
on this site there was another report of a German giving the finger in
traffic. He, too, ended up dead on the site, by shooting in that
particular incident.
*Posted by Michael
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:06:00 PM
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It seems the local authorities don't have the skill or the will to
crack down on the HUGE number of murders here on Phuket.
*Posted by Concerned
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Welcome to the land of: "Of course you can kill and get away with it
as long as you wear a helmet while riding your motorbike".
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1. How did the witnesses see him flip the finger to the guy? Who were
they? They saw the German get angry and followed him to where he was
stabbed? Or some random people came forward and just said they saw
this as they put 2 and 2 together. Looks like the police are trying to
'justify' it.

2. Who said these things never happened before? They did; they are
just reported more I think. Four years ago someone tried to attack me
on my bike. This was at 3pm in Kata 5. All these expensive villas in
Rawai and the unsuspecting investors don't realize the area is
infested with killers and thieves.

I'll bet they'll arrest the perpetrators of this murder and let them
out the same day. LIke the tuk-tuk driver. Where is he now?
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These Thai dogs are considered as people from the "land of the smile"

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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...
German stabbed to death in Phuket

RAWAI, PHUKET: A German expat was stabbed to death last night outside
a 7-Eleven shop on a busy road in Rawai.

The dead man has been identified as 66-year-old Eugen Wolf-Dieter, a
resident of Ban Saiyuan in Rawai.

Police are on the hunt for three teenage suspects who beat and stabbed
Mr Wolf-Dieter before fleeing on a motorbike.

From their initial investigations, police said Mr Dieter was driving
his Toyota Vigo pick-up south along Chao Fa Road West.

As he reached Chalong Circle, a pink Yamaha Fino driving against the
flow of traffic suddenly cut across his path and drove onto the
Chalong Pier road, just missing Mr Wolf-Dieter's truck, witnesses
said.

Witnesses said Mr Wolf-Dieter got angry, shouted at the boys and then
gave them the middle finger.

Chalong Police Duty Officer Anukul Nuket received the report of the
stabbing at 7:40pm.

“The riders got angry, so they had an argument with the German and
followed him until he stopped the truck at the scene,” he said.

A fight ensued during which the German was stabbed in his chest and
stomach, he said.

The three suspects fled on their bike south toward Rawai Beach.

By the time police arrived, rescue workers from Phuket Rumjai Kupai
Foundation had already rushed Mr Wolf-Dieter to Vachira Phuket
Hospital in Phuket Town, but he died en route.

As of 11am today, Chalong Police were still searching for the
assailants.
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Land of smiles. NOT.
*Posted by lord Jim
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 3:59:40 PM
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What wonderful publicity for Phuket! First the tuk-tuk drivers are
beating up tourists and now lawless teens after recklessly driving in
front of this man have the audacity to get angry and kill him!

Phuket's reputation continues to suffer at the hands of these lawless
thugs! The "prisoners are running the jail" in Phuket and if the
police do not get this crime fest under control there will be a big
price to pay. The police need to stop worrying about collecting 200
baht fines for minor issues and focus on crime prevention.
*Posted by tommy
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:04:18 PM
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People get killed in Thailand so easy and no witnesses because we all
too afraid to get involved. So everyone just stands there and watches,
and after someone is hurt or dead they all say they saw nothing. We
need help from the police, and the police also need our help. Stop the
Thai moong thing and do something to help!
*Posted by aussiejoy
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:12:02 PM
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I hope that they'll get these cowards and let them rot in prison.
*Posted by Islander
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:17:48 PM
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Just a few short years ago, things like this were unheard of. Just
what is happening to this beautiful island? The levels of violence
just keep increasing, yet the authorities don't seem to care enough to
get tough on these criminals.
*Posted by Tom
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:27:01 PM
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If the violence continues I will be changing my retirement plans to
calmer waters, ike Malaysia.
*Posted by Scotty
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:35:59 PM
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Too many deaths by stabbing or shooting. Why don't the police stop and
search motorbike riders for such weapons? These aren't legal in this
country, I suppose, so why not take action in this direction from time
to time – as a measure of prevention? They'll sure catch some long
wanted fish that way!
*Posted by dieter
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:39:02 PM
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Why do we NEVER hear about a one-on-one fight in Thailand? If Muay
Thai is supposedly so awesome (which it's not), why do these cowards
always fight with weapons and always with overwhelming odds? This is
pathetic. It's a mess in Thailand now.
*Posted by Dave Williams
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:59:39 PM
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The police need to stop bothering about catching farang without
helmets and get out there and attend to more important issues. A good
place to start would be to apprehend all these guys who flout the road
rules as many incidents are caused through such carelessness – as they
know the police will do nothing.
*Posted by Dave Lombardi
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:10:21 PM
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Let's hope for real justice. Long sentences might prevent further
deaths
*Posted by john webb
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:20:06 PM
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I am saddened by this latest tragedy. Phuket is becoming a very unsafe
place to be. I agree that if something is not done soon there will be
a price to pay. Right now it's the foreigners paying the price with
there lives. I hope these thugs, or should I say cowards, are caught
and dealt with severely. They should receive the same treatment they
dished out.
*Posted by rg
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:21:46 PM
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Respect older people? Land of Smiles? Phuket is clearly not safe
anymore. Way too many incidents like this, with too many foreigners
hurt or killed during the past few weeks!

What do the police in Chalong do, anyway. Do they just check
foreigners for helmets and driving licenses?
*Posted by moskito
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:22:41 PM
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Did not anybody tell this German that it is the god-given right of
young Thais to drive wherever they wish? The police are not teaching
them and neither are their parents. And to give them the finger salute
is a big mistake!
*Posted by Guenter Bellach
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:42:48 PM
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I don't think that you can expect Chalong police to 'just happen' to
be at the exact place at the at exact time of a murder. It doesn't
happen with any other police force, in any other place on the planet!
This is a social problem, linked to poverty and education, just like
the steep rise in knife crime in Europe. Remember that place?
*Posted by Jon
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:46:19 PM
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I'm not surprised that it happens in Rawai. Rawai, Chalong, Kata and
Karon are unsafe areas because the police have been quite there over
the past few years.
*Posted by Satip
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:49:06 PM
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I am retired and have been living for many years with my Thai wife on
this ex-wonderful island, which remained a very nice place for living
until 4-5 years ago. We've decided to move soon to another province in
Thailand, leaving Phuket to its 'authorities', to the gangs, to the
scams, to the tuk-tuks, to the salaeng (illegal, but thousands of them
anyway), to the jet-skis, to all the vendors and touts (especially in
Patong) that jam the sidewalks, etc.

Phuket has become just a factory, obviously attracting the worst, but
there are so many other provinces in Thailand where life and the
people are so nice, and authentic. Pai! ('Let's go', in Thai.)
*Posted by sm
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:49:31 PM
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Don't get me wrong; I'm 100% against this type of violent behavior.
This type of 'road rage' is insane and should not be tolerated by any
society. But how hard is it to understand that you do NOT give the
finger in this country? While it is not acceptable behavior even in
Europe, it is an extreme personal insult in Thai society. Not long ago
on this site there was another report of a German giving the finger in
traffic. He, too, ended up dead on the site, by shooting in that
particular incident.
*Posted by Michael
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:06:00 PM
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It seems the local authorities don't have the skill or the will to
crack down on the HUGE number of murders here on Phuket.
*Posted by Concerned
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:24:56 PM
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Welcome to the land of: "Of course you can kill and get away with it
as long as you wear a helmet while riding your motorbike".
*Posted by olov hallberg
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:30:55 PM
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1. How did the witnesses see him flip the finger to the guy? Who were
they? They saw the German get angry and followed him to where he was
stabbed? Or some random people came forward

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wakalukong is faking to be a " Chinese native " of ASEAN .


Jan 29, 11:41*am, Wakalukong wrote:
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On Jan 29, 8:45*am, the Black *LEARN GA *kock *of the *****ing

Boudha THIEF wrote:
is *Thailand *still *more *safe *than *Malaysia *for *foreign
tourists * *?

THIEF



n Jan 28, 9:42*am, "Alexx" wrote:

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German stabbed to death in Phuket

RAWAI, PHUKET: A German expat was stabbed to death last night outside
a 7-Eleven shop on a busy road in Rawai.

The dead man has been identified as 66-year-old Eugen Wolf-Dieter, a
resident of Ban Saiyuan in Rawai.

Police are on the hunt for three teenage suspects who beat and stabbed
Mr Wolf-Dieter before fleeing on a motorbike.

From their initial investigations, police said Mr Dieter was driving
his Toyota Vigo pick-up south along Chao Fa Road West.

As he reached Chalong Circle, a pink Yamaha Fino driving against the
flow of traffic suddenly cut across his path and drove onto the
Chalong Pier road, just missing Mr Wolf-Dieter's truck, witnesses
said.

Witnesses said Mr Wolf-Dieter got angry, shouted at the boys and then
gave them the middle finger.

Chalong Police Duty Officer Anukul Nuket received the report of the
stabbing at 7:40pm.

“The riders got angry, so they had an argument with the German and
followed him until he stopped the truck at the scene,” he said.

A fight ensued during which the German was stabbed in his chest and
stomach, he said.

The three suspects fled on their bike south toward Rawai Beach.

By the time police arrived, rescue workers from Phuket Rumjai Kupai
Foundation had already rushed Mr Wolf-Dieter to Vachira Phuket
Hospital in Phuket Town, but he died en route.

As of 11am today, Chalong Police were still searching for the
assailants.
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Comment on this story *[There are 44 comments so far.]

Land of smiles. NOT.
*Posted by lord Jim
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 3:59:40 PM
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What wonderful publicity for Phuket! First the tuk-tuk drivers are
beating up tourists and now lawless teens after recklessly driving in
front of this man have the audacity to get angry and kill him!

Phuket's reputation continues to suffer at the hands of these lawless
thugs! The "prisoners are running the jail" in Phuket and if the
police do not get this crime fest under control there will be a big
price to pay. The police need to stop worrying about collecting 200
baht fines for minor issues and focus on crime prevention.
*Posted by tommy
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:04:18 PM
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People get killed in Thailand so easy and no witnesses because we all
too afraid to get involved. So everyone just stands there and watches,
and after someone is hurt or dead they all say they saw nothing. We
need help from the police, and the police also need our help. Stop the
Thai moong thing and do something to help!
*Posted by aussiejoy
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:12:02 PM
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I hope that they'll get these cowards and let them rot in prison.
*Posted by Islander
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:17:48 PM
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Just a few short years ago, things like this were unheard of. Just
what is happening to this beautiful island? The levels of violence
just keep increasing, yet the authorities don't seem to care enough to
get tough on these criminals.
*Posted by Tom
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:27:01 PM
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If the violence continues I will be changing my retirement plans to
calmer waters, ike Malaysia.
*Posted by Scotty
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:35:59 PM
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Too many deaths by stabbing or shooting. Why don't the police stop and
search motorbike riders for such weapons? These aren't legal in this
country, I suppose, so why not take action in this direction from time
to time – as a measure of prevention? They'll sure catch some long
wanted fish that way!
*Posted by dieter
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:39:02 PM
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Why do we NEVER hear about a one-on-one fight in Thailand? If Muay
Thai is supposedly so awesome (which it's not), why do these cowards
always fight with weapons and always with overwhelming odds? This is
pathetic. It's a mess in Thailand now.
*Posted by Dave Williams
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:59:39 PM
Comment on this comment
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The police need to stop bothering about catching farang without
helmets and get out there and attend to more important issues. A good
place to start would be to apprehend all these guys who flout the road
rules as many incidents are caused through such carelessness – as they
know the police will do nothing.
*Posted by Dave Lombardi
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:10:21 PM
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Let's hope for real justice. Long sentences might prevent further
deaths
*Posted by john webb
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:20:06 PM
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I am saddened by this latest tragedy. Phuket is becoming a very unsafe
place to be. I agree that if something is not done soon there will be
a price to pay. Right now it's the foreigners paying the price with
there lives. I hope these thugs, or should I say cowards, are caught
and dealt with severely. They should receive the same treatment they
dished out.
*Posted by rg
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:21:46 PM
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Respect older people? Land of Smiles? Phuket is clearly not safe
anymore. Way too many incidents like this, with too many foreigners
hurt or killed during the past few weeks!

What do the police in Chalong do, anyway. Do they just check
foreigners for helmets and driving licenses?
*Posted by moskito
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:22:41 PM
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Did not anybody tell this German that it is the god-given right of
young Thais to drive wherever they wish? The police are not teaching
them and neither are their parents. And to give them the finger salute
is a big mistake!
*Posted by Guenter Bellach
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:42:48 PM
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I don't think that you can expect Chalong police to 'just happen' to
be at the exact place at the at exact time of a murder. It doesn't
happen with any other police force, in any other place on the planet!
This is a social problem, linked to poverty and education, just like
the steep rise in knife crime in Europe. Remember that place?
*Posted by Jon
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:46:19 PM
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I'm not surprised that it happens in Rawai. Rawai, Chalong, Kata and
Karon are unsafe areas because the police have been quite there over
the past few years.
*Posted by Satip
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:49:06 PM
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I am retired and have been living for many years with my Thai wife on
this ex-wonderful island, which remained a very nice place for living
until 4-5 years ago. We've decided to move soon to another province in
Thailand, leaving Phuket to its 'authorities', to the gangs, to the
scams, to the tuk-tuks, to the salaeng (illegal, but thousands of them
anyway), to the jet-skis, to all the vendors and touts (especially in
Patong) that jam the sidewalks, etc.

Phuket has become just a factory, obviously attracting the worst, but
there are so many other provinces in Thailand where life and the
people are so nice, and authentic. Pai! ('Let's go', in Thai.)
*Posted by sm
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:49:31 PM
Comment on this comment
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Don't get me wrong; I'm 100% against this type of violent behavior.
This type of 'road rage' is insane and should not be tolerated by any
society. But how hard is it to understand that you do NOT give the
finger in this country? While it is not acceptable behavior even in
Europe, it is an extreme personal insult in Thai society. Not long ago
on this site there was another report of a German giving the finger in
traffic. He, too, ended up dead on the site, by shooting in that
particular incident.
*Posted by Michael
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:06:00 PM
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It seems the local authorities don't have the skill or the will to
crack down on the HUGE number of murders here on Phuket.
*Posted by Concerned
Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:24:56 PM
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On Jan 29, 2:03*pm, "Hatjman Hunsen , mafia Boss of Cambodia"
wrote:
you *should be careful *with this *wakalukong
*because
wakalukong is *faking to be a *" *Chinese native *" *of *ASEAN .
(snip)
-----------

Hymen aka Thief Komin, prove that Sun Yat Sen was a fake doctor, as
claimed by you. Hahahaha!

Wakalukong

wakalukong, you should give more respect to the ****ing Budha .

the Budha ****ed like me when the Budha was still young,
so you should respect the Budha .,




n Jan 29, 1:29*pm, Wakalukong wrote:
On Jan 29, 2:03*pm, "Hatjman Hunsen , mafia *Boss *of wrote:
you *should be careful *with this *wakalukong
*because
wakalukong is *faking to be a *" *Chinese native *" *of *ASEAN .

(snip)
-----------

Hymen aka Thief Komin, prove that Sun Yat Sen was a fake doctor, as
claimed by you. *Hahahaha!

Wakalukong

On Jan 30, 9:36*am, "Thief Komin, expert ****er of hole on wall"
wrote:
wakalukong, you should *give more *respect to the ****ing *Budha .

the *Budha * ****ed *like *me when the *Budha was *still young,
so you should *respect the *Budha .,
(snip)
----------

After your tearful confession that you knew next to nothing about
Malaysia (after years of pretending to be an expert), you're fit only
to drill walls.

Wakalukong

wakalukong , so are you an expert on Malaysia ?

how do you decide who is an expert on Malaysia ?

wakalukong , are you from Malaysia ?


how come you know so much about Malaysia ?


n Jan 30, 8:56*am, Wakalukong wrote:
On Jan 30, 9:36*am, "Thief Komin, expert ****er of *hole on wrote:
wakalukong, you should *give more *respect to the ****ing *Budha ..

the *Budha * ****ed *like *me when the *Budha was *still young,
so you should *respect the *Budha .,

(snip)
----------

After your tearful confession that you knew next to nothing about
Malaysia (after years of pretending to be an expert), you're fit only
to drill walls.

Wakalukong

On Jan 30, 7:37*pm, "Allah , your only god Allah , you are only
allowed to have me as your only God , you are only authorised to
have Allah as your only God ." wrote:
wakalukong , so *are you *an expert on Malaysia ?

how *do *you *decide *who is *an *expert on *Malaysia ?

wakalukong , *are *you *from *Malaysia ?

how *come you *know *so *much *about *Malaysia ?
(snip)
------------

How come I know so much about Malaysia? Moron, if you need to ask
this question your knowledge of Malaysia and Singapore is zero. Go
drill a wall, liar.

Wakalukong