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Driver Licensing not about highway safety
"proffsl" wrote in message
ups.com... Licensing does have nothing to do with highway safety. Your assertion is simply deluded. A school child could present cogent reasons as to the correlation between the two. KM -- (-:alohacyberian:-) At my website view over 3,600 live cameras or visit NASA, the Vatican, the Smithsonian, the Louvre, CIA, FBI, and NBA, the White House, Academy Awards, 150 language translators! Visit Hawaii, Israel and more at: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/ |
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Proffy's continuing KOOK MELTDOWN
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oups.com... Hey, I made post 100. Do I get the stuffed teddy bear? Are you going for 1,700 again? How many times must you be exposed as a fool? Are you serious? It takes 10,000 for a teddy bear and 20,000 for a toaster. KM -- (-:alohacyberian:-) At my website view over 3,600 live cameras or visit NASA, the Vatican, the Smithsonian, the Louvre, CIA, FBI, and NBA, the White House, Academy Awards, 150 language translators! Visit Hawaii, Israel and more at: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/ |
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Driver Licensing not about highway safety
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 12:52:03 GMT, "Alohacyberian"
wrote: "proffsl" wrote in message oups.com... Licensing does have nothing to do with highway safety. Your assertion is simply deluded. A school child could present cogent reasons as to the correlation between the two. KM I agree. However, on an allied subject, this was a news item here last night. Interviews with the town authorities were positive; interviews with Insurance representatives were not: http://www.spiegel.de/international/...505246,00.html "German Town Scraps Road Signs to Increase Safety You won't have to worry about getting a ticket for running a red light in the German town of Bohmte any more -- the town is abolishing all its road signs and traffic regulations. Pedestrians and cyclists in Bohmte will have to rely on their wits from now on -- the town is abolishing traffic signs. The idea of a town with no road signs conjures up ideas of Italian-style traffic mayhem, with cars whizzing everywhere and nervous pedestrians diving for cover. But for some traffic experts, such chaos is to be embraced -- or, as the title of a recent traffic conference in Frankfurt put it, "unsafe is safe." Now the town of Bohmte in the German state of Lower Saxony is putting its money where its motor mouth is -- it's getting rid of its road signs in a bid to cut accidents. The work to remove the road signs will begin Wednesday in the town of 13,500 inhabitants. Sidewalks will disappear, as will the asphalt, replaced by cobblestones. Cycle lanes and sidewalks will be distinguished from the road only by color. The town is putting up half of the project's ¤2.35-million costs itself, with the EU and other sources of funding supplying the other half. The idea is based on the European Union-supported "Shared Space" (more...) concept of traffic management developed by the Dutch traffic expert Hans Monderman. According to the concept, road users have to negotiate their behavior with each other, rather than have it prescribed by rules -- the idea being that people will pay more attention to what other road users are doing and hence cause fewer accidents." Cheers, Alan, Australia -- http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/ latest: Slovenia http://loraltraveloz.blogspot.com/ latest: Mossman Gorge in the Daintree Rainforest |
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Driver Licensing not about highway safety
"Alan S" wrote in message
... On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 12:52:03 GMT, "Alohacyberian" wrote: "proffsl" wrote in message roups.com... Licensing does have nothing to do with highway safety. Your assertion is simply deluded. A school child could present cogent reasons as to the correlation between the two. KM I agree. However, on an allied subject, this was a news item here last night. Interviews with the town authorities were positive; interviews with Insurance representatives were not: http://www.spiegel.de/international/...505246,00.html "German Town Scraps Road Signs to Increase Safety Snipped for brevity Cheers, Alan, Australia -- Very interesting concept, but I predict it will increase accidents, especially for pedestrians. Germany, like Italy, already has traffic injury and death tolls that are gruesome. And in my personal observation over the years, some of the most hare-brained schemes have come from governmental groups' whose actions have put heavy burdens on the populace. KM "In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule." ~ Friedrich Nietzsche -- (-:alohacyberian:-) At my website view over 3,600 live cameras or visit NASA, the Vatican, the Smithsonian, the Louvre, CIA, FBI, and NBA, the White House, Academy Awards, 150 language translators! Visit Hawaii, Israel and more at: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/ |
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Driver Licensing not about highway safety
"Alohacyberian" wrote in message ... "Alan S" wrote in message ... On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 12:52:03 GMT, "Alohacyberian" wrote: "proffsl" wrote in message groups.com... Licensing does have nothing to do with highway safety. Your assertion is simply deluded. A school child could present cogent reasons as to the correlation between the two. KM I agree. However, on an allied subject, this was a news item here last night. Interviews with the town authorities were positive; interviews with Insurance representatives were not: http://www.spiegel.de/international/...505246,00.html "German Town Scraps Road Signs to Increase Safety Snipped for brevity Cheers, Alan, Australia -- Very interesting concept, but I predict it will increase accidents, especially for pedestrians. Germany, like Italy, already has traffic injury and death tolls that are gruesome. And in my personal observation over the years, some of the most hare-brained schemes have come from governmental groups' whose actions have put heavy burdens on the populace. KM Well, Keith, I have to hand it to you...you didn't go back under that rock to do the Alvin Toda. But...on the other hand, neither did you address my question I've been asking you for a while now. You've been ducking and ducking and ducking and ducking that question: "Do you agree that a maker of a statement is accountable for that statement? A simple 'yes' or 'no' from you will suffice." A question, I might add, rather relevant to all these posts of yours lately. Now are you going to respond as you have once before with that six year old kid's "Yes or no. KM"? Or are you going again to do the Keith Martin of non sequiturs, red herrings, and ad hominems? Or are you yet again going to do the Alvin Toda by crawling back under that rock to yet again duck my question? |
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Driver Licensing not about highway safety
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 00:12:32 -0700, "Lawrence Akutagawa"
wrote: Well, Keith, I have to hand it to you. Well, Lawrence, I have to hand it to you, you never miss an opportunity to complain when someone is irrelevant to the ng in your opinion. So tell us, what has your comment to do with either r.t.u-c or driver licensing? Cheers, Alan, Australia -- http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/ latest: Slovenia http://loraltraveloz.blogspot.com/ latest: Mossman Gorge in the Daintree Rainforest |
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Driver Licensing not about highway safety
"Alan S" wrote in message ... On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 00:12:32 -0700, "Lawrence Akutagawa" wrote: Well, Keith, I have to hand it to you. Well, Lawrence, I have to hand it to you, you never miss an opportunity to complain when someone is irrelevant to the ng in your opinion. So tell us, what has your comment to do with either r.t.u-c or driver licensing? Cheers, Alan, Australia [chuckle] If you have been following this particular "discussion", Alan, you would well know that Keith Martin has constantly ducked answering my question: "Do you agree that a maker of a statement is accountable for that statement? A simple 'yes' or 'no' from you will suffice." Keith has responded with a] a 6 year old kid's "Yes or no. KM", b] by (what I term the Keith Martin tactic) casting out non sequiturs, red herrings, and ad hominems, and c] by (what I call the Alvin Toda, after its avid practitioner) basically disappearing for a while....all the time ducking the question. So I take each and every opportunity when Keith emerges out from under that rock he hides to point out that he indeed has yet to answer that question. Here we have a person making statements. My unanswered (by him) question is one of three asked of him with regard to being accountable for one's statements (such as those he makes). The other two we 1. How one interprets his [ie, Keith's] words "...if Alvin Toda doesn't feel inclined to respond to any of my questions or those of any other person, he has that prerogative..." to be logically different from Alvin being not accountable? 2. What - if indeed Alvin is accountable for what he says - what is the exact nature of that accountability when he has "...that prerogative.."? So whatever subject involved, whenever Keith appears I point out that he yet to answer that one question, it being the most simpl, straightforward, and basic of the three. And it has the most direct bearing/relevance on his statements here...whatever the subject. Like - does Keith hold himself accountable for what he says...whatever the subject? Or is he just blowing smoke...whatever the subject? But such questions really are subordinate/secondary to the one that I've been asking (and will continue to ask) of Keith. Now why Keith continues to duck time and time again such a simple, straightforward, and basic question...that you'll have to ask him. One surmise, of course, of this behavior is that he does not hold that one is accountable for one's statements and does not answer simply because he does not want to say as much. But that is purely a surmise only. |
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Driver Licensing not about highway safety
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 08:46:29 GMT, "Lawrence Akutagawa"
wrote: "Alan S" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 00:12:32 -0700, "Lawrence Akutagawa" wrote: Well, Keith, I have to hand it to you. Well, Lawrence, I have to hand it to you, you never miss an opportunity to complain when someone is irrelevant to the ng in your opinion. So tell us, what has your comment to do with either r.t.u-c or driver licensing? Cheers, Alan, Australia [chuckle] If you have been following this particular "discussion", Alan, you would well know that Keith Martin has constantly ducked answering my question: "Do you agree that a maker of a statement is accountable for that statement? A simple 'yes' or 'no' from you will suffice." Ask someone who cares. And learn to recognise when the horse you are flogging has not only died but been turned into glue and frankfurters. Cheers, Alan, Australia -- http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/ latest: Slovenia http://loraltraveloz.blogspot.com/ latest: Mossman Gorge in the Daintree Rainforest |
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Driver Licensing not about highway safety
"Alan S" wrote in message ... On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 08:46:29 GMT, "Lawrence Akutagawa" wrote: "Alan S" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 00:12:32 -0700, "Lawrence Akutagawa" wrote: Well, Keith, I have to hand it to you. Well, Lawrence, I have to hand it to you, you never miss an opportunity to complain when someone is irrelevant to the ng in your opinion. So tell us, what has your comment to do with either r.t.u-c or driver licensing? Cheers, Alan, Australia [chuckle] If you have been following this particular "discussion", Alan, you would well know that Keith Martin has constantly ducked answering my question: "Do you agree that a maker of a statement is accountable for that statement? A simple 'yes' or 'no' from you will suffice." Ask someone who cares. And learn to recognise when the horse you are flogging has not only died but been turned into glue and frankfurters. Cheers, Alan, Australia So - is that the reason why Keith Martin does not answer my question but disappears under that rock where he presently is? My posing this particular question to him whenever he appears here turns him into glue and frankfurters? Now that is a rather color description of what I have come to call the Alvin Toda bit. Golly gee, Alan, you may have just found the answer! Yet....yet...I note that despite your explanation, that Keith has the remarkable Phoenix-like ability of arising yet again and again to make statements here...from which I surmise that he is still yet capable of answering my question. And until he does - one way or the other - I'll keep asking whenever he does appear so that he can show us all his skillful use of the Alvin Toda...aka to you, turning into glue and frankfurters. |
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Driver Licensing not about highway safety
On Sep 30, 10:31 am, "Lawrence Akutagawa"
wrote: "Alan S" wrote in message ... On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 08:46:29 GMT, "Lawrence Akutagawa" wrote: "Alan S" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 00:12:32 -0700, "Lawrence Akutagawa" wrote: Well, Keith, I have to hand it to you. Well, Lawrence, I have to hand it to you, you never miss an opportunity to complain when someone is irrelevant to the ng in your opinion. So tell us, what has your comment to do with either r.t.u-c or driver licensing? Cheers, Alan, Australia [chuckle] If you have been following this particular "discussion", Alan, you would well know that Keith Martin has constantly ducked answering my question: "Do you agree that a maker of a statement is accountable for that statement? A simple 'yes' or 'no' from you will suffice." Ask someone who cares. And learn to recognise when the horse you are flogging has not only died but been turned into glue and frankfurters. Cheers, Alan, Australia So - is that the reason why Keith Martin does not answer my question but disappears under that rock where he presently is? My posing this particular question to him whenever he appears here turns him into glue and frankfurters? Now that is a rather color description of what I have come to call the Alvin Toda bit. Golly gee, Alan, you may have just found the answer! Yet....yet...I note that despite your explanation, that Keith has the remarkable Phoenix-like ability of arising yet again and again to make statements here...from which I surmise that he is still yet capable of answering my question. And until he does - one way or the other - I'll keep asking whenever he does appear so that he can show us all his skillful use of the Alvin Toda...aka to you, turning into glue and frankfurters. Then I feel very sorry for you. |
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