ThanksGiving

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The Fourth Thursday in November, the United States of America
celebrate this holiday with a feast of traditional foods.

George Washington proclaimed it October 3, 1789 and the day was
finalized during the Franklin Delano Roosevelt Administration.

The first ThanksGiving was celebrated in 1621 by the Pilgrims who
gave thanks to the indigenous people for helping them through the
difficult winter of 1620-21 and helping them grow the food with which
they celebrated and gave their thanks.

Although this holiday is not exclusively ours (Canada celebrates it
about a month before we), it's the closest thing to a unique holiday
we have. It is also one that unites us all, natural born citizens,
naturalized citizens, potential and imminent citizens, visitors from
everywhere, and the few indigenous people who live with us today. It
has nothing to do with jingopatriotism, religion, race, ancestry, or
politics. It belongs to, and is embraced by, us all
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On 25 Nov 2004 14:59:23 -0800, (Icono Clast) wrote:

... It
has nothing to do with jingopatriotism, religion, race, ancestry, or
politics. It belongs to, and is embraced by, us all


And The Dallas Cowboys.



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the Pilgrims who gave thanks to the indigenous people for helping
them through the difficult winter

Actually, the thanks was/is given to the Almighty for seeing them
through.

Nile wrote:
the Pilgrims who gave thanks to the indigenous people for helping

them through the difficult winter

Actually, the thanks was/is given to the Almighty for seeing them
through.

yeah but then most of them starved in the next few years.

On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 20:45:14 -0600, (Nile)
wrote:

the Pilgrims who gave thanks to the indigenous people for helping
them through the difficult winter

Actually, the thanks was/is given to the Almighty for seeing them
through.

But it was the Indians who taught the settlers how to live off the
land and survive in the new world. How to boil pine needles for the
tea that contained vitamin C and stave off scurvey, how to hunt
properly and dry their meat etc...

But I guess the Almighty desreved a hand too.


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Hatunen wrote:
On 25 Nov 2004 14:59:23 -0800, (Icono Clast)
wrote:


[The attempt to uploaded this today at 04:50 appears to have failed.
If it's a duplicate, I'm sorry.]

The Fourth Thursday in November, the United States of America
celebrate this holiday with a feast of traditional foods.

George Washington proclaimed it October 3, 1789 and the day was
finalized during the Franklin Delano Roosevelt Administration.

The first ThanksGiving was celebrated in 1621 by the Pilgrims who
gave thanks to the indigenous people for helping them through the
difficult winter of 1620-21 and helping them grow the food with which
they celebrated and gave their thanks.

Thanks for publishing that information. Do you have a source? The only
other place I have seen it was, of all things, a history book published
in East Germany under the Communist regime!
My Colliers encyclopedia doesn't mention the native Americans at all
in connection with Thanksgiving.

T.



The Pilgirms didn't land until late December, 1620, and Squanto
didn't show up until March 1621. In fact the feast that autumn
was to celebrate a pretty good harvest of the crops of summer
1621. Furthermore, the Pilgrims never did it again, so it's hard
to call it the start of a tradition.


Although this holiday is not exclusively ours (Canada celebrates it
about a month before we), it's the closest thing to a unique holiday
we have.


The Fourth of July? Or is that too much lke Bastille Day?


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Hatunen wrote:
Although this holiday is not exclusively ours (Canada celebrates it
about a month before we), it's the closest thing to a unique holiday
we have.

The Fourth of July? Or is that too much lke Bastille Day?

Sometimes you surprise me, Dave.

We do NOT celebrate the Fourth of July any more than the Canadians
celebrate the Fourteenth. We celebrate our gaining independence from
the English. That happens to be the date we celebrate it. Many
countries have an independence day celebrated for the same reason as
we even though the colonizer might not have been the English.

Sometimes you surprise me, Dave.
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(Nile) wrote
Icono Clast said:
the Pilgrims who gave thanks to the indigenous people for helping
them through the difficult winter

Actually, the thanks was/is given to the Almighty for seeing them
through.

"The Almighty" what? If with to be understood in this medium, making
vague statements not the way to succeed.
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On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 16:44:06 +0100, Tom Peel
wrote:

Hatunen wrote:
On 25 Nov 2004 14:59:23 -0800, (Icono Clast)
wrote:


[The attempt to uploaded this today at 04:50 appears to have failed.
If it's a duplicate, I'm sorry.]

The Fourth Thursday in November, the United States of America
celebrate this holiday with a feast of traditional foods.

George Washington proclaimed it October 3, 1789 and the day was
finalized during the Franklin Delano Roosevelt Administration.

The first ThanksGiving was celebrated in 1621 by the Pilgrims who
gave thanks to the indigenous people for helping them through the
difficult winter of 1620-21 and helping them grow the food with which
they celebrated and gave their thanks.

Thanks for publishing that information. Do you have a source? The only
other place I have seen it was, of all things, a history book published
in East Germany under the Communist regime!
My Colliers encyclopedia doesn't mention the native Americans at all
in connection with Thanksgiving.

Google is your friend.


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On 29 Nov 2004 04:14:27 -0800, (Icono Clast)
wrote:

Hatunen wrote:
Although this holiday is not exclusively ours (Canada celebrates it
about a month before we), it's the closest thing to a unique holiday
we have.

The Fourth of July? Or is that too much lke Bastille Day?

Sometimes you surprise me, Dave.

We do NOT celebrate the Fourth of July any more than the Canadians
celebrate the Fourteenth. We celebrate our gaining independence from
the English. That happens to be the date we celebrate it. Many
countries have an independence day celebrated for the same reason as
we even though the colonizer might not have been the English.

Sometimes you surprise me, Dave.

Picky, picky. It is widely and commonly also called the Fourth of
July, and has been for over 200 years. Who am I to dispute
history?

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