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Old March 8th, 2010, 12:42 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Charles[_1_]
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In article , Brian K
wrote:

This has been a new development since that big "mad cow" scare. I grew
up eating rare hamburgers with the meat almost red in the center and
juices a lovely pink. Burgers without some pink just don't taste good.
They taste like sawdust.


I think "the dam lucky you did not make anyone sick part" is an
overstatement. But if you want to be safe it should be cooked well done
to 160 degrees. And you could have some pink as long as you have cooked
it to 160 degrees. If I were cooking burgers for others I would cook it
to 160 degrees as measured by a thermometer. Many restaurants will only
cook it that way. The Five Guys burger chain here will only cook them
well done. When cooking for myself I do as I please. Also when
ordering for myself I order as I please. I had a Chef Geoffs burger at
Lia's about an hour ago and I ordered it medium as usual. There was
some pink and it was dam good.

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Old March 8th, 2010, 12:44 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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In article , frijoli
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nd, mad cow can not be destroyed by cooking meat at any
reasonable temperature high or otherwise.


The reason 160 degrees is the safest is to kill e-coli bacteria.

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Old March 8th, 2010, 12:55 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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In article ,
Brian K wrote:


This has been a new development since that big "mad cow" scare. I grew
up eating rare hamburgers with the meat almost red in the center and
juices a lovely pink. Burgers without some pink just don't taste good.
They taste like sawdust.

Actually e coli. Prion diseases (such as mad cow) aren't inactivated
by heat at cooking temps. The reasons to cook meat is largely related
to bacterial concerns.

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Old March 9th, 2010, 09:35 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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Kurt Ullman plucked Senior Frog's Magic Twanger and said On 3/7/2010
6:55 PM:
In ,
Brian wrote:


This has been a new development since that big "mad cow" scare. I grew
up eating rare hamburgers with the meat almost red in the center and
juices a lovely pink. Burgers without some pink just don't taste good.
They taste like sawdust.

Actually e coli. Prion diseases (such as mad cow) aren't inactivated
by heat at cooking temps. The reasons to cook meat is largely related
to bacterial concerns.


Many of the chains, Applebey's, Fridays, Bennigans, Chilli's only
restriction is they won't cook a burger rare. They will cook a burger:
medium rare, medium well, and well done. I frequently eat at
Applebey's, Charlie Browns and Chilli's. Neither has resulted in any
kind of sickness. The only time I had an experience of food poisoning
was at The Office ( local chain?). The entree was Fish and Chips.

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Old March 9th, 2010, 11:25 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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In article ,
Brian K wrote:

Kurt Ullman plucked Senior Frog's Magic Twanger and said On 3/7/2010
6:55 PM:
In ,
Brian wrote:


This has been a new development since that big "mad cow" scare. I grew
up eating rare hamburgers with the meat almost red in the center and
juices a lovely pink. Burgers without some pink just don't taste good.
They taste like sawdust.

Actually e coli. Prion diseases (such as mad cow) aren't inactivated
by heat at cooking temps. The reasons to cook meat is largely related
to bacterial concerns.


Many of the chains, Applebey's, Fridays, Bennigans, Chilli's only
restriction is they won't cook a burger rare. They will cook a burger:
medium rare, medium well, and well done. I frequently eat at
Applebey's, Charlie Browns and Chilli's. Neither has resulted in any
kind of sickness. The only time I had an experience of food poisoning
was at The Office ( local chain?). The entree was Fish and Chips.


Which has anything to do the topic at hand how? Those same chains
also include the Board of Health required warning that undercooked meats
are a health hazard. It is still bacterial (specifically e coli) hazards
and not prion (mad cow) that is the safety concern.

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Old March 11th, 2010, 12:35 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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frijoli wrote:
Stu wrote:


Obviously you are not a cook, ground beef needs to be cooked well
done. Steak is different.

Explain.


Any possible bacteria on steak is on the surface and killed when
grilled. Ground beef, by nature of the grinding, allows any possible
bacteria to be mixed throughout the ground meat and possible escape
being killed by the cooking process. Hence people want it cooked more to
cover that contingency.

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Old March 11th, 2010, 12:37 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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Surfer E2468 wrote:
Never eat any meat that is not WELL DONE,


That is unnecessary and over reaction. Nothing more dangerous in a
med-rare steak than a well done one, and it certainly tastes better!
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Old March 11th, 2010, 12:40 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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Brian K wrote:

This has been a new development since that big "mad cow" scare. I grew
up eating rare hamburgers with the meat almost red in the center and
juices a lovely pink. Burgers without some pink just don't taste good.
They taste like sawdust.


Grind your own beef from large, washed cuts of beef. Grind close to the
time you grill it and you'll probably be just fine.
 




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