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  #11  
Old April 6th, 2009, 10:46 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
Runge14[_2_]
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Notice how much martin tries and tries and tries

"Martin" a écrit dans le message de
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On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:04:23 +0100, "Gerry" wrote:


"Terry Richards" wrote in message
. ..
We are planning a trip from northern France to central/southern Italy by
motorcycle.

To cut down a bit on the road mileage, we were wondering if there were
any
ferries from southern France to Italy, either direct or with one
connection. My map doesn't show any but it's 9 years old...


None whatsoever.
Ferries are fast going out of business on international routes - it's
cheaper to fly!


Until you factor in the cost of a hire car at the other end and how much
you can
carry if you travel in your own car. Cross channel routes appear to be
booming.
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  #12  
Old April 6th, 2009, 10:56 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
Mike Lane
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On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:43:51 +0100, Martin wrote
(in article ):

On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:04:23 +0100, "Gerry" wrote:


"Terry Richards" wrote in message
...
We are planning a trip from northern France to central/southern Italy by
motorcycle.

To cut down a bit on the road mileage, we were wondering if there were any
ferries from southern France to Italy, either direct or with one
connection. My map doesn't show any but it's 9 years old...


None whatsoever.
Ferries are fast going out of business on international routes - it's
cheaper to fly!


Until you factor in the cost of a hire car at the other end and how much
you can carry if you travel in your own car. Cross channel routes appear
to be booming.


and flying is becoming an increasingly hideous experience.

--
Mike Lane
UK North Yorkshire

  #13  
Old April 7th, 2009, 06:25 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
Tim C.[_5_]
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On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 22:56:26 +0100, Mike Lane wrote in post :
edia.com :

On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:43:51 +0100, Martin wrote
(in article ):

On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:04:23 +0100, "Gerry" wrote:


"Terry Richards" wrote in message
...
We are planning a trip from northern France to central/southern Italy by
motorcycle.

To cut down a bit on the road mileage, we were wondering if there were any
ferries from southern France to Italy, either direct or with one
connection. My map doesn't show any but it's 9 years old...

None whatsoever.
Ferries are fast going out of business on international routes - it's
cheaper to fly!


Until you factor in the cost of a hire car at the other end and how much
you can carry if you travel in your own car. Cross channel routes appear
to be booming.


and flying is becoming an increasingly hideous experience.


I wonder how long it'll be before it'll be worth driving 2 days across
Europe with no air-con with 2 screaming kids and grumpy wife staying in
dives and getting stuck in the Stau on the Autobahn just to avoid the
RyanAir Experience? Not long.
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Tim C.
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Old April 7th, 2009, 08:04 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
Terry Richards[_2_]
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"tim....." wrote in message
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You said that you wanted to save the driving mileage. This option is
never going to save you time

tim



True, but it's a trade-off between time, expense and effort. This trip is in
the very early planning stage but it looks like two long days (or three
easier ones) of riding to get there and then, of course, the same to get
back. That's a big bite out of a two week holiday so I was casting around
for other ideas.

The optimum would be to teleport us and the bike to somewhere near Rome and
then we could start from there. There are, however, certain practical
difficulties

T.


  #15  
Old April 7th, 2009, 08:07 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
Terry Richards[_2_]
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"Martin Theodor Ludwig" wrote in message
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... or you could do it per stop-over in Corsica or Sardinia ;-)

Regards, Martin


I looked at that but, as far as I can see, all the boats from France go to
Corsica and all the boats to central or southern Italy leave from Sardinia.
I'm sure there's a way to get from Corsica to Sardinia but the whole thing
is getting to be more trouble than it's worth.

T.


  #16  
Old April 7th, 2009, 08:19 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
Terry Richards[_2_]
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"Martin Theodor Ludwig" wrote in message
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... within France or Italy you can take trains. See my
www.autoreisezuege.org/esummary.htm

Regards, Martin


Martin,

Thank you for that site, it's now in my favourites list. I never even
thought about trains. It looks like we can take an overnight from Auray to
Lyon which puts us two hours from Italy and 8 hours from Rome early in the
morning. Given that we have no definite destination in mind, I'm sure we can
do something with that.

Thanks again,

Terry.


  #17  
Old April 7th, 2009, 08:36 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
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On 6 avr, 10:54, "Terry Richards" wrote:
We are planning a trip from northern France to central/southern
Italy by
motorcycle.

To cut down a bit on the road mileage, we were wondering if there
were any
ferries from southern France to Italy, either direct or with one
connection.
My map doesn't show any but it's 9 years old...

..... but plenty of information on the net :-)

According to
http://www.belvedair.com/fr/transpor...t-Ferries.html
for instance, there is one from Toulon to Civitavecchia - would
allow skipping traffic mess around Genova ... but skips
also the interesting Portovecchio - La Spezia area (leave
highway for some great motorbike roads)

Several ferries via Corsica and/or Sardegnia, but then
imho no way not driving around at least N/NW coast
(basically North of Porto) plus at least one trip over the
mountains. Great roads and scenery, but chances
encountering really crazy drivers :-)
Corsica East coast is better in terms of sandy beaches,
but boaring roads, South several nice small towns
worth a short visit.

For really saving time and mileage by using ferries, then
its for a trip to Sicily (sailing at night). Friends used to
drive by motorbike to Sicily and return by ferry, or the
other way round.

But have you considered train ?
Several trains also carry motorbikes - but the ones I am
aware of are mostly from/to Germany and Austria and
Italy

And some - usually small[est] - companies are offering
bus services for passengers with motorbikes. Service
might be availabe for motorbikers from Northern France
somewhere south (?)

Have a great trip!
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Old April 7th, 2009, 08:37 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
Tim C.[_5_]
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On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:19:36 +0200, Terry Richards wrote in post :
:

"Martin Theodor Ludwig" wrote in message
...
... within France or Italy you can take trains. See my
www.autoreisezuege.org/esummary.htm

Regards, Martin


Martin,

Thank you for that site, it's now in my favourites list. I never even
thought about trains. It looks like we can take an overnight from Auray to
Lyon which puts us two hours from Italy and 8 hours from Rome early in the
morning. Given that we have no definite destination in mind, I'm sure we can
do something with that.

Thanks again,

Terry.


Depending on where you're going from, an overnight ferry or a drive from
Holland to Hamburg or Düsseldorf and get the train to Verona (or get off
the train at Bozen and hit the Dolomites for a day).

--
Tim C.
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Old April 7th, 2009, 10:14 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
Tim C.[_5_]
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On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:36:48 +0200, Martin wrote in post :
:

On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:37:22 +0200, "Tim C." wrote:

On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:19:36 +0200, Terry Richards wrote in post :
:

"Martin Theodor Ludwig" wrote in message
...
... within France or Italy you can take trains. See my
www.autoreisezuege.org/esummary.htm

Regards, Martin

Martin,

Thank you for that site, it's now in my favourites list. I never even
thought about trains. It looks like we can take an overnight from Auray to
Lyon which puts us two hours from Italy and 8 hours from Rome early in the
morning. Given that we have no definite destination in mind, I'm sure we can
do something with that.

Thanks again,

Terry.


Depending on where you're going from, an overnight ferry or a drive from
Holland to Hamburg or Düsseldorf and get the train to Verona (or get off
the train at Bozen and hit the Dolomites for a day).


There's a car train from Utrecht to the S of France, BUT it costs an arm and a
leg.


None of them are cheap are they? :-( But you often get a good start for
the next day, and saves hotel & fuel costs, and you can get a bit of sleep,
even i fit's not as good as the adverts try and make out. I suppose that's
their justification.

--
Tim C.
  #20  
Old April 7th, 2009, 11:27 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
Giovanni Drogo
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On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, Terry Richards wrote:

ferries from southern France to Italy,


I'm not aware of any, unless they are ferries to Corsica or Sardinia. In
a sense the mediterreanean ports of France are too close to, say, Genova
(I'm not sure if a ferry Genova-Barcelona still exists, I took one more
than 30 years ago) (despite the fact the train connections are rather
awful), and I guess the traffic requests with the centre-south of Italy
from France will be low.

Which part of Italy (which is long) are you interested in ?
Do you have any particular reason to skip the ligurian and thyrrenian
coasts ?

I knew there was a ferry from Palermo to Naples, and probably even
Palermo to Genova (the latter should be later popular for truck drivers,
I do not know about tourists). Some colleagues having to drive a car
from Palermo to Munich with lot of computers and equipment took the
ferry to Naples to cut a stretch of nasty roads.

Anyhow this site http://www.traghettiweb.it/it/tw_index.php
seems to have an interactive form, if you select a starting place it
shows only a subset of destinations.


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