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Old February 20th, 2006, 12:10 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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I grew up in Long Beach. CA and still live in the L.A. area.
As a little kid, I stood on the Vincent Thomas Bidge and watched them
tow the Queen Mary to it's permanent berth in the LB harbor. Soon
after the Spruce Goose was installed next door.

I am looking forward next weekend (Feb 25th) to going down to
San Pedro and seeing the giant new Queen Mary 2 at the big cruise ship
dock there. I know the Spruce Goose is long gone from next to te old
QM. I've noticed there will occasionally be a cruise ship docked where
the Goose used to be. What ships dock there? At a guess - is it
Disney lines only? It's too bad the QM2 won't be able to 'park' next
to it's famous older sister - that'd be quite a sight! Perhaps the QM2
can't dock there, due to it's size? And, is it true the QM2 is too
large to go thru the Panama Canal?



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Old February 20th, 2006, 01:46 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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What ships dock there? At a guess - is it
Disney lines only? It's too bad the QM2 won't be able to 'park' next
to it's famous older sister - that'd be quite a sight! Perhaps the QM2
can't dock there, due to it's size? And, is it true the QM2 is too
large to go thru the Panama Canal?


I think that only Carnival Corp ships can dock there as Carnival paid for
the facilities. That means that the QMII can dock there if there is room.
Carnival owns Cunard. OTOH, the size of the QMII may prevent that.


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Old February 20th, 2006, 03:21 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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Carnival owns the QMII! I'm not idolizing that ship any longer!

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Old February 20th, 2006, 03:56 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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KennethGorelick wrote:
Carnival owns the QMII! I'm not idolizing that ship any longer!


That is Carnival Corporation, not Carnival Cruise Lines. Makes a big
difference.

sue
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Old February 20th, 2006, 11:16 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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Andrew,

The dock at San Pedro, at the base of the Vincent Thomas Bridge, and the
dock in Long Beach, at the Queen Mary, are two totally different cruise ship
docks. They are actually separated from one another by a 20 minute drive.
The dock at the Queen Mary uses the old Spruce Goose dome as the terminal
for Carnival Cruise lines. The other lines still use the dock in San Pedro.
However, since Cunard is indeed technically owned by Carnival Cruise Lines,
I am not sure if she will dock in Long Beach or San Pedro. Yet, if you do
wait in San Pedro, by the Vincent Thomas Bridge, and she docks in Long Beach
instead, you will never see her. The two docks are too far away from one
another to see both at the same time. Naturally, this would be something to
check on. Maybe other readers will know for sure. Of course, you would think
that she would want to dock next to the original Queen Mary (Long Beach) for
nostalgia purposes, but I don't know what's really planned.

Good luck,
John Sisker
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I grew up in Long Beach. CA and still live in the L.A. area.
As a little kid, I stood on the Vincent Thomas Bidge and watched them
tow the Queen Mary to it's permanent berth in the LB harbor. Soon
after the Spruce Goose was installed next door.

I am looking forward next weekend (Feb 25th) to going down to
San Pedro and seeing the giant new Queen Mary 2 at the big cruise ship
dock there. I know the Spruce Goose is long gone from next to te old
QM. I've noticed there will occasionally be a cruise ship docked where
the Goose used to be. What ships dock there? At a guess - is it
Disney lines only? It's too bad the QM2 won't be able to 'park' next
to it's famous older sister - that'd be quite a sight! Perhaps the QM2
can't dock there, due to it's size? And, is it true the QM2 is too
large to go thru the Panama Canal?





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Old February 20th, 2006, 03:10 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 10:16:12 GMT, "John Sisker"
wrote:

I am not sure if she will dock in Long Beach or San Pedro.

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you would think
that she would want to dock next to the original Queen Mary (Long Beach) for
nostalgia purposes, but I don't know what's really planned.


Hi John,

The QM2 will be doing her turnarounds at the Port of LA (San Pedro).
The ceremonies and celebration are detailed in my earlier press
release postings. They are available by Googling or by checking the
News section of my web site.

Best regards,
Ray
LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL
800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905
http://www.lighthousetravel.com
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Old February 20th, 2006, 03:12 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 15:10:32 -0800, Andrew Gore
wrote:

I grew up in Long Beach. CA and still live in the L.A. area.
As a little kid, I stood on the Vincent Thomas Bidge and watched them
tow the Queen Mary to it's permanent berth in the LB harbor. Soon
after the Spruce Goose was installed next door.


I saw the SG in the '80s. It was astonishing!

I did a search on Dogpile to see what had happened to it and found the
website http://www.aafo.com/goose/. Seems it's at Evergreen
International Aviation in McMinville, Oregon.

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Old February 21st, 2006, 04:51 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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Thus spake :

What ships dock there? At a guess - is it
Disney lines only? It's too bad the QM2 won't be able to 'park' next
to it's famous older sister - that'd be quite a sight! Perhaps the QM2
can't dock there, due to it's size? And, is it true the QM2 is too
large to go thru the Panama Canal?


I think that only Carnival Corp ships can dock there as Carnival paid for
the facilities. That means that the QMII can dock there if there is room.
Carnival owns Cunard. OTOH, the size of the QMII may prevent that.


The Carnival terminal is the old dome that housed the Goose.
--
dillon

Could have been is in the past
Could be is in the future
There is only the now
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Old February 22nd, 2006, 05:24 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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Thus spake Patricia Martin Steward :

On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 15:10:32 -0800, Andrew Gore
wrote:

I grew up in Long Beach. CA and still live in the L.A. area.
As a little kid, I stood on the Vincent Thomas Bidge and watched them
tow the Queen Mary to it's permanent berth in the LB harbor. Soon
after the Spruce Goose was installed next door.


I saw the SG in the '80s. It was astonishing!

I did a search on Dogpile to see what had happened to it and found the
website http://www.aafo.com/goose/. Seems it's at Evergreen
International Aviation in McMinville, Oregon.


And, if the restorers have their way, will fly again. Maybe by the
end of 2008 from what I last heard.
--
dillon

Could have been is in the past
Could be is in the future
There is only the now
 




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