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Ancient Roman Sites Delphi, Greece Top Three Travel Experiences? Ummm.......
On 2013-01-10 15:14:57 -0600, Martin said:
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 19:16:10 +0100, Alfred Molon wrote: In article . com, Mike Lane says... The main problem I have with Italy is the expensive hotels that mostly don't have twin rooms with separate beds. I know many people like myself who travel with a friend or relative with whom they don't mind at all sharing a room, but don't wish to share a bed as well! The problem with Italy is that while there are many honest people, there are also many dishonest people. Oh that, and the dreadful Italian road network that makes driving any distance a chore rather than a pleasure We just came back from a two weeks trip to Sicily. We drove around in a rented car. Driving in Sicily is really crazy, I've never experienced anything like that. I found driving in Greece was worse. How so? The roads, or the drivers? The Italians are crazy drivers but the Greeks are just NUTS. ha -- Dan Stephenson http://stepheda.com Travel pages for Europe and the U.S.A. (and New Zealand too) |
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Top Three Scenic Drives? Ummm.........
On 2013-01-10 07:08:30 -0600, Martin said:
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:56:42 +0000, Mike Lane wrote: Martin wrote on Jan 10, 2013: Pickering to Rosedale to Hutton Le Hole to Castleton via Blakey Ridge via B roads over the North York Moors ...preferably pausing at theLion - my all-time favourite pub! Of course! Is that the place that was snowed in for days last Winter? My father and I had a pint there. -- Dan Stephenson http://stepheda.com Travel pages for Europe and the U.S.A. (and New Zealand too) |
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Ancient Roman Sites Delphi, Greece Top Three Travel Experiences? Ummm.......
What are your favorite Roman sites?
I've never seen any in Italy, but Split is great with none of the hassles you describe. You can eat at a greasy-spoon restaurant in what used to be Diocletian's bedroom and go down into the cellars underneath to see his drainpipes running over your head. Other historical stuff ranges from an Egyptian statue the Romans imported as an antiquity to bullet holes from the Yugoslav civil war. And it's easily accessible by public transport. I best the whole Dalmation coast would be a great scenic drive, eh? There is now a motorway all the way down that isn't as scenic but gives you a better chance of making your destination alive. You will spend half the journey looking at oncoming traffic with horrified disbelief and the other half staring at your feet as you brace for impact. The scenery won't get a look in. Get somebody else to drive you. You get the wrecked vehicles left where they fell down the cliffside in Greece too, but there are a heck of a lot more of them in Croatia. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- e m a i l : j a c k @ c a m p i n . m e . u k Jack Campin, 11 Third Street, Newtongrange, Midlothian EH22 4PU, Scotland mobile 07800 739 557 http://www.campin.me.uk Twitter: JackCampin |
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Ancient Roman Sites Delphi, Greece Top Three Travel Experiences? Ummm.......
In article 2013011118195393317-stephedanospam@maccom, Dan Stephenson
says... I have been fortunate to drive through Sicily, too. What was so crazy about it? Just, the winding country roads? - sicilians like to park in the double row, blocking the traffic - lady stops the car on the road for a chat with somebody, not caring about the traffic jam she is creating - on a road where you have the right of way: cars coming in from the left and right, from side streets, not caring about your right of way, forcing you to be extra careful - narrow road with two lanes, one lane being narrowed further by an obstacle, you drive, another car enters from the opposite side. There is no space for two cars, but the other car nevertheless squeezes in and continues driving, instead of reversing and letting you pass. Precision millimetre manouvers of your car and the other car to pass by each other, car mirrors pulled in. - crazy manouvers by motorbike riders - cars not respecting the right of way, simply driving into a crossing or roundabout without looking whether there are other cars - red traffic light, cars passing anyway - red traffic light, you stop, cars behind you honking you because you are stopping in front of a red traffic light - narrow, very steep roads everywhere And so on... It's no surprise that so many cars in Sicily have damaged bodies. To guy who wrote about India: driving in Sicily is much worse. Try driving through Palermo (we did - with a minivan). -- Alfred Molon http://www.molon.de - Photos of Asia, Africa and Europe |
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Ancient Roman Sites Delphi, Greece Top Three Travel Experiences? Ummm.......
Jack Campin wrote on Jan 12, 2013:
What are your favorite Roman sites? I've never seen any in Italy, but Split is great with none of the hassles you describe. You can eat at a greasy-spoon restaurant in what used to be Diocletian's bedroom and go down into the cellars underneath to see his drainpipes running over your head. Other historical stuff ranges from an Egyptian statue the Romans imported as an antiquity to bullet holes from the Yugoslav civil war. And it's easily accessible by public transport. I best the whole Dalmation coast would be a great scenic drive, eh? There is now a motorway all the way down that isn't as scenic but gives you a better chance of making your destination alive. You will spend half the journey looking at oncoming traffic with horrified disbelief and the other half staring at your feet as you brace for impact. The scenery won't get a look in. Get somebody else to drive you. You get the wrecked vehicles left where they fell down the cliffside in Greece too, but there are a heck of a lot more of them in Croatia. I spent a couple of weeks with a car in Croatia last summer and I didn't find it all that bad to be honest. I got the impression they're attempting to control things on the roads now - I saw a number of police patrols about. They're quite keen to expand their tourism, and too many fatalities on the roads would probably put a lot of people off! -- Mike Lane UK North Yorkshire mike_lane at mac dot com |
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Ancient Roman Sites Delphi, Greece Top Three Travel Experiences? Ummm.......
"Mike Lane" wrote in message dia.com... Jack Campin wrote on Jan 12, 2013: What are your favorite Roman sites? I've never seen any in Italy, but Split is great with none of the hassles you describe. You can eat at a greasy-spoon restaurant in what used to be Diocletian's bedroom and go down into the cellars underneath to see his drainpipes running over your head. Other historical stuff ranges from an Egyptian statue the Romans imported as an antiquity to bullet holes from the Yugoslav civil war. And it's easily accessible by public transport. I best the whole Dalmation coast would be a great scenic drive, eh? There is now a motorway all the way down that isn't as scenic but gives you a better chance of making your destination alive. You will spend half the journey looking at oncoming traffic with horrified disbelief and the other half staring at your feet as you brace for impact. The scenery won't get a look in. Get somebody else to drive you. You get the wrecked vehicles left where they fell down the cliffside in Greece too, but there are a heck of a lot more of them in Croatia. I spent a couple of weeks with a car in Croatia last summer and I didn't find it all that bad to be honest. It's noticeably worse at the weekend (presumably because the police don't patrol as much) I got the impression they're attempting to control things on the roads now - I saw a number of police patrols about. So did I, I randomly got stopped by one for no reason at all. But this didn't stop him from keeping me there for 15 minutes whilst he looked around my car etc for no understandable reason. They're quite keen to expand their tourism, and too many fatalities on the roads would probably put a lot of people off! And being intimidated by a policeman with a machine gun (yes honestly) doesn't tim |
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Top Three Scenic Drives? Ummm.........
On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:28:05 -0600, Dan Stephenson wrote:
On 2013-01-10 07:08:30 -0600, Martin said: On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:56:42 +0000, Mike Lane wrote: Martin wrote on Jan 10, 2013: Pickering to Rosedale to Hutton Le Hole to Castleton via Blakey Ridge via B roads over the North York Moors ...preferably pausing at theLion - my all-time favourite pub! Of course! Is that the place that was snowed in for days last Winter? My father and I had a pint there. I used to know a guy who took his camper van up there for their beer festival. Nice place... -- "Hopefully the fair wind will resume, or this may well take all day." Admiral Collingwood on being becalmed under the guns of six French ships- of-the-line at Trafalgar |
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Ancient Roman Sites Delphi, Greece Top Three Travel Experiences? Ummm.......
tim..... wrote on Jan 12, 2013:
"Mike Lane" wrote in message dia.com... Jack Campin wrote on Jan 12, 2013: What are your favorite Roman sites? I've never seen any in Italy, but Split is great with none of the hassles you describe. You can eat at a greasy-spoon restaurant in what used to be Diocletian's bedroom and go down into the cellars underneath to see his drainpipes running over your head. Other historical stuff ranges from an Egyptian statue the Romans imported as an antiquity to bullet holes from the Yugoslav civil war. And it's easily accessible by public transport. I best the whole Dalmation coast would be a great scenic drive, eh? There is now a motorway all the way down that isn't as scenic but gives you a better chance of making your destination alive. You will spend half the journey looking at oncoming traffic with horrified disbelief and the other half staring at your feet as you brace for impact. The scenery won't get a look in. Get somebody else to drive you. You get the wrecked vehicles left where they fell down the cliffside in Greece too, but there are a heck of a lot more of them in Croatia. I spent a couple of weeks with a car in Croatia last summer and I didn't find it all that bad to be honest. It's noticeably worse at the weekend (presumably because the police don't patrol as much) I got the impression they're attempting to control things on the roads now - I saw a number of police patrols about. So did I, I randomly got stopped by one for no reason at all. But this didn't stop him from keeping me there for 15 minutes whilst he looked around my car etc for no understandable reason. They're quite keen to expand their tourism, and too many fatalities on the roads would probably put a lot of people off! And being intimidated by a policeman with a machine gun (yes honestly) doesn't Well, all I can say is that I wasn't stopped, threatened, or intimidated in any way. Everyone seemed very friendly and welcoming - even the border police! And as I said the roads seemed quite OK and not particularly dangerous. I'm thinking of going again in May - possibly driving down to Dubrovnik and then spending a few days on an island. We'll see - possibly I was just lucky the first time. -- Mike Lane UK North Yorkshire mike_lane at mac dot com |
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Ancient Roman Sites Delphi, Greece Top Three Travel Experiences? Ummm.......
Martin wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 00:53:30 +0000, Jack Campin wrote: .. You will spend half the journey looking at oncoming traffic with horrified disbelief and the other half staring at your feet as you brace for impact. The scenery won't get a look in. Get somebody else to drive you. I find that doing that is even worse. Ah, but then you can close your eyes as you prepare to die, at least! -- Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad |
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Ancient Roman Sites Delphi, Greece Top Three Travel
On Friday, January 11, 2013 12:25:38 PM UTC, Jack Campin wrote:
I'm very much more into Rome's history and putting a human interest story at a site or location makes it come alive for me. What are your favorite Roman sites? I've never seen any in Italy, but Split is great with none of the hassles you describe. You can eat at a greasy-spoon restaurant in what used to be Diocletian's bedroom and go down into the cellars underneath to see his drainpipes running over your head. Other historical stuff ranges from an Egyptian statue the Romans imported as an antiquity to bullet holes from the Yugoslav civil war. And it's easily accessible by public transport. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- e m a i l : j a c k @ c a m p i n . m e . u k Jack Campin, 11 Third Street, Newtongrange, Midlothian EH22 4PU, Scotland mobile 07800 739 557 http://www.campin.me.uk Twitter: JackCampin Favourite Roman sites? I've always felt one of the most impressive is the El Djem coliseum in Tunisia. The one to watch is Gortyn, the largely unexcavated Roman capital of 'Libya' in Crete. |
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