Jews Strive To Restore Christmas Trees At Seattle Airport

wrote:
Tchiowa wrote:
It's a national holiday in the US. If you don't want to participate
then stay home. But it is absurd to suggest that the country has to
hide while it celebrates a national holiday.

If you don't like Christmas being a national holiday then ask your
Congressman to change the law.

Better still -- buy a one-way trip to Saudi Arabia. There are NO Xmas
trees in their airports -- or anywhere else.

I have been told otherwise. I think it's quite possible
that the Saudis tolerate various nominally monotheistic
performances.

Maybe Yemen.... and there are always the various
uninhabited islands, and Antarctica.

God bless the Jewish people. They are always the friends of Christians.

On 13-Dec-2006, James A. Donald wrote:

Mike Hunt
The issue isn't that the Rabbi wanted the
Christmas ornaments removed, but he wanted
representation of his religion a this public
facility.

James A. Donald:
Christmas is a universal celebration,


No, it is not. The fact that some people have
secularized it changes nothing.

So you are worried that people might look at the
Christmas tree and THINK of a manger?

No, I am worried that you are throwing around non -sequiturs because
you know you are wrong.
I am also worried that you seem to have the idea that numbers are the
only thing to consider when deciding what somehting is/not.
Your insistence that "Christmas is now secular and erveyone must
celebrate it or be considered a bigot [the upshot of your "only those with
a grudge against it don;t celebrate it" post] " is not only insanely fascist

and bigoted, but just not logical.
That's like saying that "There are more people who believe in the phony
Kabbalah cult in California than who practice the actual Kabbalah, and
so now the phony cult will be considered Kabbalah, and anyone who says
otherwise is a bigot."
Just completely wrong.

Sure sounds like war on Christmas.

I'm sure it does, when that's what you're determined to see.

Susan

On 13-Dec-2006, " wrote:

"James A. Donald"
Christmas is a universal celebration, heavily
celebrated by pagans such as Chinese and
Japanese. It is intended to be universal.

Christmas is a Christian holiday.

And everyone I know who calls themselves Xian would be
offended at any suggestuion otherwise.

James A. Donald:
Observe Singapore at Christmas time.

Observe Riyadh at Christmas time.

James A. Donald wrote:
But you guys are trying to suppress even the secular
aspects of Christmas - you were suing against the
display of Christmas trees

Who was suing against what display of Xmas trees?

NO ONE.

The ones in SEATAC?

The remarks made by the posters in this thread
demonstrate the truth of what I said.

The remarks by a number of posters to these NGs demonstrate that they
don't know their asses from their elbows.

As does his.

Your point?

That anyone who doesn't tow the line is a bigot.
Which is an incredibly bigoted thing to demand.

Susan

Deborah

On 13-Dec-2006, " wrote:

James A. Donald wrote:
But you guys are trying to suppress even the secular
aspects of Christmas - you were suing against the
display of Christmas trees

Who was suing against what display of Xmas trees? The ones in SEATAC?\

Even if anyone was - which no one is doing - the proof
that the trees and all the other attendent crap really is NOT
secular is that it is ONLY brought out AT XMAStime.

It would be less disgusting if they were just honest about it.

Susan

On 13-Dec-2006, James A. Donald wrote:

:
So they should have accomodated him they they*should*
have.

If someone is offended by Christmas

Which was not what was going on here - thanks for changing the subject

, you cannot
accommodate him except by canceling Christmas, for if
you accommodate him by making some particular changes,
there is no end of people demanding additional
particular changes.

And if there is no legal leg to stand on, no one has to make any
accomodations.
If there's a legal leg to stad on, there's a reason for that.

It is like negotiating with the Palestinians. You cut a
deal with the PLO, and then they say "thanks, and now for
the demands of Hamas: ..." If you begin, there is no end.

Thanks for telling us just what you think of everyone who is not Xian.

Susan

On 13-Dec-2006, "Sancho Panza" wrote:


Which means only that they have taken the secular
aspects they like and abandoned the rest - which is
the real affront to Xmas.

But you guys are trying to suppress even the secular
aspects of Christmas

This is a lie: the rabbi just wanted equal time.
It was the airport that nixed the trees.

- you were suing

This is a lie

against the
display of Christmas trees, not the display of stables
and mangers. You are suing

This is a lie.

against the stuff that
people see in Singapore

Pretty fast on the trigger with "you guys." Just what guys do you mean?

Guess.

Susan

On 13 Dec 2006 19:01:58 -0800, "Laura Sanchez"
wrote:

God bless the Jewish people. They are always the friends of Christians.

Too bad Christianity doesn't return the favor.
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James A. Donald wrote in message
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"James A. Donald"
Christmas is a universal celebration, heavily
celebrated by pagans such as Chinese and
Japanese. It is intended to be universal.

"Sancho Panza"
A noble sentiment, but far far far from anywhere
near reality.

James A. Donald:
Observe Singapore at Christmas time.


Which means only that they have taken the secular
aspects they like and abandoned the rest - which is
the real affront to Xmas.

But you guys are trying to suppress even the secular
aspects of Christmas - you were suing against the
display of Christmas trees, not the display of stables
and mangers. You are suing against the stuff that
people see in Singapore

Nobody was 'sueing against the display of trees'. a rabbi threatened to sue
if the airport did not also display symbols of his religion alongside the
trees. The airport re-acted by removing the trees thus killing the whole
suit stone dead, there were now no religous symbols for anyone to demand
parity with.


"James A. Donald"
Christmas is universal, except among those nursing
grievances against Christianity and Christians.


Anyone who thinks this is the one nursing grievances.

The remarks made by the posters in this thread
demonstrate the truth of what I said.

Saturnalia is universal..... christians just give it a different name.....

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James A. Donald wrote in message
...
Mike Hunt
The issue isn't that the Rabbi wanted the
Christmas ornaments removed, but he wanted
representation of his religion a this public
facility.

James A. Donald:
Christmas is a universal celebration,


No, it is not. The fact that some people have
secularized it changes nothing.

So you are worried that people might look at the
Christmas tree and THINK of a manger?

Sure sounds like war on Christmas.

Probably the same way you worry that seeing a woman wearing a chador will
make people accept Allah and promptly start slaughtering your
neighbours.....


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We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because
of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this
right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.

http://www.jim.com/ James A. Donald