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HR427 Vietnam Human Rights Act -- VC Leaders are Acting like Aggressive and Remorseless Criminals
Former Director of Naval Intelligence/DIA Director. Testimony by a R/Adm. Common knowledge around Washington and the testimony was unclassified. I will endeavor to get you an exact citation. I like the internet. I think it is a powerful tool to do just about anything including changing the future of countries like Vietnam or the United States, and I know some people with just a few clicks, links and some manipulations and sending it to the right place were able to change the future relations between Vietnam and the United States. And using the internet to prove a point is no exception. Here is a link about WMD which I think is very interesting. None Proliferation treaty: http://www.fas.org/nuke/control/npt/ Countries that signed the treaty: http://www.fas.org/nuke/control/npt/docs/nptstatus.htm Vietnam was among the first 19 countries that signed on the NPT. Countries who signed this treaty are subjected to unexpected inspection by the UN atomic agency. Developed countries like the United States or Britain can and have been providing satellite images of member countries whose facilities are suspected of WMD development to the UN atomic agency. Also notice that the updated list for 2003 of the NPT countries no longer included the United States or North Korea. The United States opposes the notion of the UN inspecting its WMD facilities. North Korea got out of the NPT because it wants to develop nulcear weapon to protect it from an American's attack. Let assume that Vietnam, a country that just has gone though 45 years of wars, that its land was devastated by twice the amount of bombs used by both sides during WW II, and more than 15 millions tons of explosives and bombs were dropped on its land altogether(more explosive than all wars in human history combined), was some how able to develop a sophisticated WMD program. What would the united States going to do about that? Chances are if the united states knows about Vietnam's wmd program, not only the united states would not take any actions but delight that vietnam has wmd because chances are vietnam's wmd would likely to be used guarding against the its big rival in the north, than any real threat to the United states. Vietnam has less than 50 scud missiles that has a range less than 300 km, barely enough to reach thailand or hongkong. Moreover, the only country in the hot zone of the middle east that comfirmed to have WMD is Israel. The only countries in the world that had been using WMD more than any other countries combined is the United States. The two atomic bombs dropped in japan killed more than 100,000 japanese civilians and the 70,000 liters of agent orange had been killing and continue to kill thousands of Vietnamese and American because agent orange causes cancers and other health problems, and it continue to devastate the Vietnamese's environment. Yet, people who are responsible for such devastation never assumed any responsibility for the destruction they caused on a people that have not done them any harms. Yet, some of those people are preaching their victims on WMD. I see those people no different from the terrorist they are criticizing, or would best fit the definition of a hypercrite. |
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HR427 Vietnam Human Rights Act -- VC Leaders are Acting like Aggressive and Remorseless Criminals
The fact that you have to hide your identity as an unknown nobody means that your opinions are not worth much! Like everyone in here used their true name when discussing some issues. If you are more interested in discussing my name, who I am. Here is a newsgroups for you: alt.Namecalling.Vietnam. Give me a break! The BBC stated that the VCP is screaming the US is interfering with Vietnam's internal politics with HR427. I maintain that the US is not interfering with anyone by witholding its own non-humanitarian aids to untrustworthy regimes. screaming? I say hardly. With a states budget of more than 10 billions dollars(10,000 millions) I cheked a few years ago the 12 millions dollars in United states aids is something vietnam can live without. And there is no such thing is non-humanitarian aids neither. all of the aids the united states gives to vietnam are tense to be humanitarian aids except of that 100,000 dollars to train vietnamese military official in English. and I afraid that 100,000 is not even disbursed this year because the Vietnamese is slow and refuses to foster a speedy military to miitary relations with the united states, afraind it may anger china. Thus, effectively making the human right acts a unless legislation even of it passed the U.S Senate. And you know what? it is not going to survive in the senate because powerful senator such as john McCain, John Kerry, .C. Hagel, U.S ambassador to Vietnam, President of Vietnam-U.S trade council, military strategist like carl thayer willl going to testify against it. Some of these people have already made their stance known that they would not support it. And I forgot the warhawls at the pentagon who will strongly oppose it. |
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HR427 Vietnam Human Rights Act -- VC Leaders are Acting like Aggressive and Remorseless Criminals
My question was a reply to a post from Mr NT Tran. I dont know how you
interpret the question was directed to you. To answer your question: No, I haven't weared a military uniform of any kind. "JASON A. KAATZ" wrote in message ... Six years Army, one tour in Vietnam in Army Aviation in an Assault Helicopter Company and later as a Military Instructor and graduate of the Army/DOD Faculty Development Program. Taught mainly U.S. and Allied Officers and EM and NCO'S as well. What was your contribution to Military Service. |
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HR427 Vietnam Human Rights Act -- VC Leaders are Acting like Aggressive and Remorseless Criminals
"JASON A. KAATZ" wrote in message ...
Former Director of Naval Intelligence/DIA Director. Testimony by a R/Adm. Common knowledge around Washington and the testimony was unclassified. I will endeavor to get you an exact citation. I found this reference. http://www.stimson.org/cbw/?SN=CB20011220137 Is this the same source that you are quoting from? From this link: Vietnam Vietnam ratified the Chemical Weapons Convention in September 1998. Seven years earlier, a US Naval Intelligence assessment cited Vietnam as a probable possessor of chemical weapons Israel Israel has undertaken extensive research into defenses against chemical warfare agents and conducts numerous military training exercises in chemical defense. An El Al Airlines plane bound for Tel Aviv that crashed outside Amsterdam in 1992 was carrying fifty gallons of dimethyl methylphosphonate, a chemical that can be used in the production of the nerve agent sarin. The precursor chemical was destined for the Institute for Biological Research in Nes Ziona, a top secret military installation outside Tel Aviv. Israeli officials maintained that the substance was being used solely for defensive research purposes, specifically to test filters for gas masks. The institute was also responsible for producing the poison used in a September 1997 assassination attempt on a leading figure in the terrorist organization Hamas. In October 1998, a British newspaper reported that Israeli F-16 fighter planes have been equipped to carry chemical weapons at short notice. Israel has signed but not ratified the Chemical Weapons Convention.1 The evidence of possessing chemical weapons on Vietnam is hand-waving at best: "PROBABLE possessor" while the evidence on Israel is quite definite: "has UNDERTAKEN". The testimony that you refered to is the one seven earlier than 1998, i.e., in 1991. In 1998, Vietnam ratified the Chemical Weapons Convention in September 1998 which Israel has not done yet. Unless you have any further evidences particularly from recent times, I rest my case. Thank you. |
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HR427 Vietnam Human Rights Act -- VC Leaders are Acting like Aggressive and Remorseless Criminals
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HR427 Vietnam Human Rights Act -- VC Leaders are Acting like Aggressive and Remorseless Criminals
This is probably a better report:
http://www.thebulletin.org/issues/19...hogendoom.html Vietnam: Vietnam. In congressional testimony in 1988, the director of naval intelligence indicated that Vietnam was in the process of developing, or already had, chemical weapons. Newspaper reports suggest that Vietnam may have obtained chemical weapons from the former Soviet Union. Vietnam also captured large stocks of U.S. riot control agents during and at the end of the Vietnam War. No public references have been made recently to an indigenous production capacity. and Israel: Israel. According to the same dia study, Israel developed its own offensive chemical weapons program in response to a perceived Arab chemical-weapon threat. In 1974, Lt. Gen. E. H. Almquist told a Senate Armed Forces Committee that the Israeli program was operational. The 1990 dia study reports that Israel maintains a chemical warfare testing facility. Newspaper reports suggest the facility is in the Negev desert. and the Note on the Chemical Weapons Convention: Under the provisions of the Chemical Weapons Convention, an accused state must allow a thorough investigation. If it denies inspectors access, it will face both sanctions and the stigma that comes with being identified as a potential possessor of chemical weapons. Under the treaty, neighboring states can also request international assistance to protect their populations, eliminating the need to develop their own weapons as deterrents. Assuming Vietnam is an active cheminal weapon producer, it is truly surprising that NO COUNTRY has raised the issue for Vietnam to be investigated accordance to the Chemical Weapons Convention for which Vietnam has ratified. |
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HR427 Vietnam Human Rights Act -- VC Leaders are Acting like Aggressive and Remorseless Criminals
Well comrade Tran Cao Ky! You no wonder what?
You no wonder why I hate and despise the stupid and obstinate liars, cheaters, thieves and murderers in the VCP politburo, who are shamelessly abusing and impoverishing the people of Vietnam? My family came from the same area as Pham Hong Son and Nguyen Vu Binh. I grew up in Saigon and never knew North Vietnam. When I came back for visits after 30 years, it was remarkable to see the Northern Vietnamese still live, talk, act... like my relatives in the 50's, i.e. they did not seem to change or progress! However, I felt like I know them very well, understand their feelings, however well hidden, and can anticipate most of their responses. The few old VC's in the politburo should know that they are widely hated and despised by the rest of the free world, their own rank, and most of the common people of Vietnam by their stupid and ruthless oppression of the people's wishes! The Vietnamese people knows that their VC leaders are corrupt and incompetent, and the country has no hope being governed by these losers! ************************************************** ********** (Tran Cao Ky) wrote in message . com... (DOAN DUC TAM) wrote in message . com... I have been interviewed a few times by the BBC for broadcast into Vietnam. Hahah. I did hear your interview mr VietThiet. Did not realize that you are actually a Northern emigrant until then. No wonder. |
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HR427 Vietnam Human Rights Act -- VC Leaders are Acting like Aggressive and Remorseless Criminals
"JASON A. KAATZ" wrote:
Go to any college or university library that is a U.S. Gov. depository. I believe you once stated you were in the WDC area. So you have access to the NARC. You can get access to the reports of the HCIS and SCIS. The alternative is the LC and you can spend time going through many volumes. Also, look up Monterey Institute. Vietnam is listed as a nation with CBW program - top institute in Monitoring CBW issues on a global basis. You will also find a lot of case there on the subject. Also check the Naval Institute proceedings, back issues. More to follow later on the subject. "Doug Reese" wrote in message ... "JASON A. KAATZ" wrote: Vietnam is not small fish - there was some testimony last years before the House and/or Senate as to Vietnam having gone into the WMD field. Give me a break. Prove it. For once, prove it. $100 to your favorite charity says you can't back this ridiculous claim up. We all know I work with VN tourist company, so don't come back with some lame reply about that. Just tell us when/where/what committee, etc. But, since there was no such testimony, you won't be able to do so. Doug You said "there was some testimony last years before the House and/or Senate as to Vietnam having gone into the WMD field". When/where/what was said? Doug |
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HR427 Vietnam Human Rights Act -- VC Leaders are Acting like Aggressive and Remorseless Criminals
"unknown" wrote in message ...
screaming? I say hardly. With a states budget of more than 10 billions dollars(10,000 millions) I cheked a few years ago the 12 millions dollars in United states aids is something vietnam can live without. And there is no such thing is non-humanitarian aids neither. all of the aids the united states gives to vietnam are tense to be humanitarian aids except of that 100,000 dollars to train vietnamese military official in English. If there a small amount of non-humanitarian aid as you wrote, then we can say the HR427 affects very litle to the wellbeing of Vietnamese people. Then why you are so upset about the HR427? Why did you write: "What sort people would want to cut off aids to people with HIV,orphan, victim of landmine, and flood?" Didn's you know that the HR427 affects only non-humanitarian aids and the aids you listed were humanitarian aids, which will not be affected by the HR427? Minh Duc |
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