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Old August 17th, 2006, 11:47 AM posted to rec.travel.air,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.european,soc.culture.indian
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http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/ind...=article&sid=3
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Muslims and Air Travel

For thousands of years Air travel had been a human dream until the
Wright brothers created history with their first powered flight in
1904. Today, aviation remains one of the most impressive and the most
outstanding human inventions. The progress that was made in air travel
since then is something we deserve to be proud of. In future, history
will acknowledge the contributions made by the Americans, Europeans,
Russians and other nations to this outstanding human achievement.
History will also record the only contribution made by Muslims to
aviation, which is to crash the planes and kill their passengers.

Muslims happen to be the only group to perfect this art of crashing
commercial planes to kill innocent, helpless civilians. Their list of
achievements includes:

· In 1967 they introduced to the world professional hijacking; a
Palestinian group hijacked an Israeli Boeing 707 to Algeria.

· In 1970 they introduced multiple plane hijacking when they hijacked,
then exploded four commercial planes in a Jordanian desert.

· In the 1980s they perfected the art of planting explosives in
electronic devices such as cassette players. They successfully exploded
a jumbo jet over Scotland killing hundreds of civilians.

· In September 2001 humanity witnessed with disbelief how a group of
dedicated Muslims hijacked four commercial planes and crashed them into
buildings killing thousands of innocent civilians.

· In 2006 they introduced the use of liquid explosives

As the world continues improving in aeroplane designs to give us even
better, more reliable and safer aeroplanes, Muslims work in the other
direction and continue their own destructive innovation‹to add to their
dark record in aviation. To maximise the carnage their last innovation
was to use liquid explosives to blow up several aeroplanes over
American cities.

The last weekıs foiled attempt is an intelligence success that saved
thousands of lives. On this occasion the terrorists failed to score any
kills, but with hundreds of flights delayed or cancelled and thousands
of passengers stranded and hundreds of extra staff brought in to the
airports it is not difficult to realise the magnitude of the blow the
terrorists delivered to the economy, globally. Western airlines may
even suffer more setbacks in the future as passengers may choose to
travel with Islamic airlines because they are less likely to be
targeted.

More worrying is that last weekıs events have exposed the Westıs
continuing failure to understand the nature of its evasive enemy. The
West still lives in denial and does not want to comprehend and digest
the naked truth. Just imagine, some British media even were reluctant
even to refer to the terrorists as Muslims, some hosted programmes
addressing the sufferings endured by the Œmostly moderateı Muslim
society.

The suspected Muslim terrorists are all British-born, just like those
who perpetrated the 7/7 attack last year. Some of them are recent
converts to Islam, which speaks volumes about the nature of Islam.

It doesnıt matter if a Muslim is born in Europe, America or any other
part of the world, it doesnıt matter if Muslims are integrated or not.
We must not forget that those who carry out the terrorist attacks in
Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan are fully integrated in their societies.
We must not forget that the Muslim converts who turned to terrorism are
fully integrated in the British society.

There is only one aspect which matters‹ Islam itself. Put this ideology
in the brain of a genius and you get a stupid who is prepared to commit
mass murders. Islam is the common factor that links all terrorists
together; it is a lethal disease that disables the brain of its
sufferers and makes them vulnerable to commit mass murders and damage.
It is a sure threat to any society and must be eradicated.

Some Muslims may appear moderate and live normal lives; they may even
be only remotely connected to Islam as they hover on its outer circle
but they are always at risk of being sucked into the darkness of the
Islamic black hole.

Just like any disease there are stages of Islamic disease: a suicide
bomber, being the ultimate, full-blown and terminal state. Any Muslims
is potentially at risk of getting to that final stage. Daniel Pipes
describes what he calls a Œsudden jihad syndromeı (SJS) to describe the
condition when ordinary and seemingly undedicated Muslims suffer of
rapid change in character and develop the state of suicide bombers. A
stark example is that some seemingly normal university students went
through this change.

Thanks to Muslims, air travel is going to be even harder with no
guarantee of security. According to a recent poll about 25% of British
Muslims (that is about three hundred thousands of them!!) find 7/7
attacks acceptable. Officials in the UK say the security services are
stretched to their limits, and there is a limit to what the security
services of any country can do. With so many Muslims approving
terroristsı attacks, the terrorists have the capability and the will to
plan for more and more attacks with the inevitable conclusion that
one-day they will succeed resulting in massive casualties.

In dealing with terrorists, there are only two options: either to hit
decisively or wait until the terrorists hit hard. The West must start
making the environment unsuitable for the growth of Islamic terrorism.
This is a very unusual war that calls for very unusual measures‹new
laws need to be introduced.

The West made itself a very attractive place for Islamic terrorists.
Here the immigrant Muslims can practice their religion freely and
safely, something they could not do in many Islamic countries. Their
mosques are safe and their Fridayıs sermons are not censored; they can
dress the way they like and women can wear headscarves or burkhas,
which are banned in some Islamic countries. Their children can go to
Islamic schools and eat halal food. In the West, the state will just
say yes to their demands and the press will show all understanding to
their Œsensitivitiesı. How a culture of unabated tolerance and
subservience to Muslim demands could provide any deterrence to the
proliferation of Islamic terrorism?‹ Please do think on this.

---
  #2  
Old August 17th, 2006, 06:19 PM posted to rec.travel.air,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.european,soc.culture.indian
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On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:47:10 GMT, Kiran wrote:

http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/ind...=article&sid=3
67

Muslims and Air Travel

For thousands of years Air travel had been a human dream until the
Wright brothers created history with their first powered flight in
1904.


Any article that implies the Wrights made the first powered
flight is dubious, and made even more dubious by claiming it was
done in 1904.


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Old August 17th, 2006, 07:17 PM posted to rec.travel.air,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.indian
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Kiran wrote:
Muslims happen to be the only group to perfect this art of crashing
commercial planes to kill innocent, helpless civilians.


Don't believe everything you read on the internet. According to recent
news stories, the North Koreans get the blame for one flight lost in
the 1980s. As I recall, there was more than one commercial flight
brought down in the US by disgruntled employees. Also, by
construction, it conveniently ignores Korean Air 007 and Iran Air 665.

  #5  
Old August 18th, 2006, 03:27 AM posted to rec.travel.air,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.indian
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mrtravel wrote:
Korean Air 007 was shot down by the Russians.


Pedandic mode: it was shot down by the Soviets during the reign of the
true last Soviet head of state (forgot his name), not long before he
died and Gorbachev took over and initiated "Glasnost" which transformed
the soviet union into what it is today.


The claim was that it was
mistaken for a US military plane. It was off course, and in restricted
air space.


Nop, the claim was that the Korean jets were equipped with spying
equipment (cameras), and as I recall, years later, some UN/ICAO report
agreed with the soviet's claim. (still not a valid reason to shoot it down).
  #6  
Old August 18th, 2006, 04:00 AM posted to rec.travel.air,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.indian
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The USA and the USSR both demonstrated the technical capability to
destroy civilian passenger planes whenever they wanted. One difference
is that the Soviets waited until thier air space was violated. The
American Navy went half way around the world to heroically shoot down
an unarmed Iranian plane flying over Iranian territorial waters; they
claimed it was unintentional, but the captain of the USS Vincennes got
a promotion and was awarded the Legion of Merit.

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Old August 18th, 2006, 05:10 AM posted to rec.travel.air,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.indian
mrtravel[_1_]
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nobody wrote:

Nop, the claim was that the Korean jets were equipped with spying
equipment (cameras), and as I recall, years later, some UN/ICAO report
agreed with the soviet's claim. (still not a valid reason to shoot it down).


Are you saying the Soviet didn't originally claim they didn't know it
was a passenger plane? Or, are you saying they knew it was a commercial
747 and also that it had cameras, before they shot it down? How did they
know this?
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Old August 18th, 2006, 05:45 AM posted to rec.travel.air,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.indian
Maxx
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mrtravel wrote:
nobody wrote:

Nop, the claim was that the Korean jets were equipped with spying
equipment (cameras), and as I recall, years later, some UN/ICAO report
agreed with the soviet's claim. (still not a valid reason to shoot it down).


Are you saying the Soviet didn't originally claim they didn't know it
was a passenger plane? Or, are you saying they knew it was a commercial
747 and also that it had cameras, before they shot it down? How did they
know this?


As I remember the story, the Russians were holding some kind of top
secret events when the 747 flew into the restricted area. The mig came
from behind and under the 747. They claimed from that angle, the plane
wasn't identified as a commercial flight. The order was given to fire
just before the 747 was leaving the restricted air space.

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Old August 22nd, 2006, 08:51 PM posted to rec.travel.air,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.indian
are we on same page?
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about the only time one is not checked for security is when flying to saudi
arabia or pakistan.



"Kiran" wrote in message
...
http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/ind...=article&sid=3
67

Muslims and Air Travel

For thousands of years Air travel had been a human dream until the
Wright brothers created history with their first powered flight in
1904. Today, aviation remains one of the most impressive and the most
outstanding human inventions. The progress that was made in air travel
since then is something we deserve to be proud of. In future, history
will acknowledge the contributions made by the Americans, Europeans,
Russians and other nations to this outstanding human achievement.
History will also record the only contribution made by Muslims to
aviation, which is to crash the planes and kill their passengers.

Muslims happen to be the only group to perfect this art of crashing
commercial planes to kill innocent, helpless civilians. Their list of
achievements includes:

· In 1967 they introduced to the world professional hijacking; a
Palestinian group hijacked an Israeli Boeing 707 to Algeria.

· In 1970 they introduced multiple plane hijacking when they hijacked,
then exploded four commercial planes in a Jordanian desert.

· In the 1980s they perfected the art of planting explosives in
electronic devices such as cassette players. They successfully exploded
a jumbo jet over Scotland killing hundreds of civilians.

· In September 2001 humanity witnessed with disbelief how a group of
dedicated Muslims hijacked four commercial planes and crashed them into
buildings killing thousands of innocent civilians.

· In 2006 they introduced the use of liquid explosives

As the world continues improving in aeroplane designs to give us even
better, more reliable and safer aeroplanes, Muslims work in the other
direction and continue their own destructive innovation dark record in
aviation. To maximise the carnage their last innovation
was to use liquid explosives to blow up several aeroplanes over
American cities.

The last weekıs foiled attempt is an intelligence success that saved
thousands of lives. On this occasion the terrorists failed to score any
kills, but with hundreds of flights delayed or cancelled and thousands
of passengers stranded and hundreds of extra staff brought in to the
airports it is not difficult to realise the magnitude of the blow the
terrorists delivered to the economy, globally. Western airlines may
even suffer more setbacks in the future as passengers may choose to
travel with Islamic airlines because they are less likely to be
targeted.

More worrying is that last weekıs events have exposed the Westıs
continuing failure to understand the nature of its evasive enemy. The
West still lives in denial and does not want to comprehend and digest
the naked truth. Just imagine, some British media even were reluctant
even to refer to the terrorists as Muslims, some hosted programmes
addressing the sufferings endured by the Omostly moderateı Muslim
society.

The suspected Muslim terrorists are all British-born, just like those
who perpetrated the 7/7 attack last year. Some of them are recent
converts to Islam, which speaks volumes about the nature of Islam.

It doesnıt matter if a Muslim is born in Europe, America or any other
part of the world, it doesnıt matter if Muslims are integrated or not.
We must not forget that those who carry out the terrorist attacks in
Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan are fully integrated in their societies.
We must not forget that the Muslim converts who turned to terrorism are
fully integrated in the British society.

There is only one aspect which matters Islam itself. Put this ideology
in the brain of a genius and you get a stupid who is prepared to commit
mass murders. Islam is the common factor that links all terrorists
together; it is a lethal disease that disables the brain of its
sufferers and makes them vulnerable to commit mass murders and damage.
It is a sure threat to any society and must be eradicated.

Some Muslims may appear moderate and live normal lives; they may even
be only remotely connected to Islam as they hover on its outer circle
but they are always at risk of being sucked into the darkness of the
Islamic black hole.

Just like any disease there are stages of Islamic disease: a suicide
bomber, being the ultimate, full-blown and terminal state. Any Muslims
is potentially at risk of getting to that final stage. Daniel Pipes
describes what he calls a Osudden jihad syndromeı (SJS) to describe the
condition when ordinary and seemingly undedicated Muslims suffer of
rapid change in character and develop the state of suicide bombers. A
stark example is that some seemingly normal university students went
through this change.

Thanks to Muslims, air travel is going to be even harder with no
guarantee of security. According to a recent poll about 25% of British
Muslims (that is about three hundred thousands of them!!) find 7/7
attacks acceptable. Officials in the UK say the security services are
stretched to their limits, and there is a limit to what the security
services of any country can do. With so many Muslims approving
terroristsı attacks, the terrorists have the capability and the will to
plan for more and more attacks with the inevitable conclusion that
one-day they will succeed resulting in massive casualties.

In dealing with terrorists, there are only two options: either to hit
decisively or wait until the terrorists hit hard. The West must start
making the environment unsuitable for the growth of Islamic terrorism.
This is a very unusual war that calls for very unusual measures laws
need to be introduced.

The West made itself a very attractive place for Islamic terrorists.
Here the immigrant Muslims can practice their religion freely and
safely, something they could not do in many Islamic countries. Their
mosques are safe and their Fridayıs sermons are not censored; they can
dress the way they like and women can wear headscarves or burkhas,
which are banned in some Islamic countries. Their children can go to
Islamic schools and eat halal food. In the West, the state will just
say yes to their demands and the press will show all understanding to
their Osensitivitiesı. How a culture of unabated tolerance and
subservience to Muslim demands could provide any deterrence to the
proliferation of Islamic terrorism? Please do think on this.

---



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Old August 22nd, 2006, 09:18 PM posted to rec.travel.air,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.indian
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are we on same page? wrote:
about the only time one is not checked for security is when flying to saudi
arabia or pakistan.

I flew to Pakistan and I was checked.

 




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