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Just when you thought ships couldn't get bigger
Mark O. Polo wrote:
Peri: Never heard of a safari in a sea of grasses? Actually, did an abbreviated visit to Tsavo NP from Mombasa a few years ago from a cruise ship but overnight was not enough. However, be assured I did look for a possible ship connection. Aloha Have a WONDERFUL time and please post your photos when you get back. ~ Peri |
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Thus spake Kurt Ullman :
In article , Ray Goldenberg wrote: On Tue, 02 May 2006 12:39:12 GMT, "John Sisker" wrote: As to the so-called proper way to present copyrighted information, so now you're telling us that Ray is in violation, but this Marco Polo was and is not? Hi John, You are very confused. I post press releases. They are NOT copyrighted and ARE intended by the publishers to be distributed. You are posting copyrighted material which is the publisher/writer's property. I & Marco post a link to the copyrighted material. There is a big difference in that you violate a copyright and I do not. Technically they ARE copyrighted, under US Law. However, with press releases there is an understanding that, by their nature, the copyright is waived. I know I am anal retentive about this.. sorry. Berne Convention. In fact, anything "published" is copyright protected. That view has been held to the extent that posts to the Internet (like this one) appear to be protected. But quotation with proper citation for purposes of commentary, review or editorial in nature are permitted. So you can quote me and filet me, but only with attribution. You can't go off and just republish my comments. -- dillon I didn't climb to the top of the food chain to become a vegetarian. |
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"Charles" wrote in message d... In article , RichC wrote: Charles, What is the proper way to post a copyrighted article in this NG. Should the author be given credit first? Just wondering since lot of folks do it. There is no proper way to post an entire copyrighted article without permission from the copyright holder. In this case the Los Angelos Times. If they gave permission then they would want credit for the author and the publication. If you see an interesting article, if they have published it to their website, you what you can do is post a link to the article. That is you can post the url the Newsgroup. -- Charles I never knew we had copyright police on this NG. I want to see any information of interest no matter where it comes from. Robert |
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In article , Robert
wrote: I never knew we had copyright police on this NG. I want to see any information of interest no matter where it comes from. The information can be provided without violating copyright. Posting the link (url) to the article. Copying the article is wrong. The sleeze not only copied the article, he lied about getting it from the trades and gave no attibution to the source or credit to the author. He is also violating the Acceptable Use Policy of his ISP. From the Earthlink AUP: "i.Copyright or trademark infringement. Using the Services to transmit any material (by email, uploading, posting, or otherwise) that infringes any copyright, trademark, patent, trade secret, or other proprietary rights of any third party, including, but not limited to, the unauthorized copying of copyrighted material, the digitization and distribution of photographs from magazines, books, or other copyrighted sources, and the unauthorized transmittal of copyrighted software. EarthLink is registered under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998." Probably every ISP has the same policy. I would hate to see anyone lose their account or get in trouble with the law because they want to provide information when they can simply do it right by posting an url. Some people don't know about copyright or their ISP'S policies. I think it is good to remind everyone in the newsgroup so they don't do it out of ignorance.The info can still be provided by posting the url. Sisker is not doing it out of ignorance, he is a spammer and a sleeze. -- Charles |
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On Wed, 03 May 2006 06:14:13 -0400, Charles
wrote: In article , Robert wrote: I never knew we had copyright police on this NG. I want to see any information of interest no matter where it comes from. The information can be provided without violating copyright. Posting the link (url) to the article. Copying the article is wrong. The sleeze not only copied the article, he lied about getting it from the trades and gave no attibution to the source or credit to the author. Sisker is not doing it out of ignorance, he is a spammer and a sleeze. Not a big Sisker fan, but if he is actually getting the stories from an actual trade source, he may NOT be able to link to them without giving you his ID & password. Just because something is published in the Tampa Bay Penny Saver doesn't mean that it was the ONLY place that it was published. Many stories go out over the wires, are syndicated, or are distributed via other means to publications throughout the world. Reclining Buddha The Original Couch Potato! |
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In article , Reclining
Buddha wrote: Not a big Sisker fan, but if he is actually getting the stories from an actual trade source, he may NOT be able to link to them without giving you his ID & password. Just because something is published in the Tampa Bay Penny Saver doesn't mean that it was the ONLY place that it was published. Many stories go out over the wires, are syndicated, or are distributed via other means to publications throughout the world. You should not believe Sisker's mumbo jumbo claims about where he got it unless he proves it. In any case even if a story goes over the "wires" or is syndicated or reprinted, it still requires permission and an attribution of the origional source to copy it. -- Charles |
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Just when you thought ships couldn't get bigger
"Dillon Pyron" wrote in message
... Berne Convention. In fact, anything "published" is copyright protected. That view has been held to the extent that posts to the Internet (like this one) appear to be protected. But quotation with proper citation for purposes of commentary, review or editorial in nature are permitted. So you can quote me and filet me, but only with attribution. You can't go off and just republish my comments. -- dillon Dillon, My dad was the only lawyer in the family so I'll ask you. Are you saying that any time we answer your post and quote you we are only legally correct if we show that you were the person who wrote the original note? If so, I am glad that I gave you credit for your brilliant post. -- DG in Cherry Hill, NJ (* _ *) |
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In article ,
Reclining Buddha wrote: giving you his ID & password. Just because something is published in the Tampa Bay Penny Saver doesn't mean that it was the ONLY place that it was published. Many stories go out over the wires, are syndicated, or are distributed via other means to publications throughout the world. Most of which are covered by copyright no matter how they are distributed. Associated Press, for instance, copyrihgts everything and then licenses its use to their members. Same for most syndicates, etc. |
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Thus spake "Dick G" dickdotgoldhaber@gmaildotcom :
"Dillon Pyron" wrote in message .. . Berne Convention. In fact, anything "published" is copyright protected. That view has been held to the extent that posts to the Internet (like this one) appear to be protected. But quotation with proper citation for purposes of commentary, review or editorial in nature are permitted. So you can quote me and filet me, but only with attribution. You can't go off and just republish my comments. -- dillon Dillon, My dad was the only lawyer in the family so I'll ask you. Are you saying that any time we answer your post and quote you we are only legally correct if we show that you were the person who wrote the original note? That is my understanding. However, enforcement is another issue. BUT, I know of at least one complaint that was settled out of court involving Deja News and the archiving of Usenet posts. Deja was based in Austin. I have all sorts of juicy stuff about them, I was project manager for a development project that never was fully developed. If so, I am glad that I gave you credit for your brilliant post. Brilliant? I'd say more like BS. -- dillon I didn't climb to the top of the food chain to become a vegetarian. |
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Just when you thought ships couldn't get bigger
Ray Goldenberg wrote: On Mon, 01 May 2006 19:35:48 -0400, Peri wrote: Wow! I didn't know there were safari CRUISES vbg!! Hi Peri, Several cruise lines combine safari/cruises. Check it out with your favorite travel agent. ;+) I concur! Check with any agent who does NOT SPAM newsgroups. BOYCOTT BUSINESSES THAT RUDELY SPAM REC.TRAVEL.CRUISE Ray Goldieberg Spammer Extraordinaire NOT |
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