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Jews Strive To Restore Christmas Trees At Seattle Airport
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 05:08:47 -0800, Tchiowa wrote:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote: On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 16:19:09 -0800, Tchiowa wrote: James A. Donald wrote: James A. Donald: But Xmastime is the time of the return of the sun - it follows the shortest day of the year. Nothing directly to do, except symbolically, with the birth of that notorious Jewish heretic that you seem to be so remarkably upset by. Mike Hunt That is the point. It is symbolically linked to the birth of Christ, hence the name of the holiday. But then, your basic grievance, or flavia's basic grievance, is having a holiday on christmas, hence the impossibility of appeasing the lawsuit mongers by any lesser measure. Exactly. If they don't like Christmas then sue to have it taken out as a national holiday. Until then I think there are some maturity issues that need to be resolved in those whining about Christmas Trees. So what does that say about the people who throw themselves on the ground and have a tantrum when cheap, plastic decorations are removed from an airport? Who threw a tantrum? You for one. Gee, should someone be calling you a liar now? You bigots are trying to fight against a holiday because you don't like the religion involved. Time to grow up. Cheap plastic decorations were removed from an airport. Christians all over the country had a childish fit until they were put back. Tell me who needs to grow up. -- Mark K. Bilbo ------------------------------------------------------------ "...otherwise, we're looking at the potential of this kind of world:.... a world in which oil reserves are controlled by radicals in order to extract blackmail from the West..." -George Bush Wait... oil reserves? |
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Jews Strive To Restore Christmas Trees At Seattle Airport
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 05:05:10 -0800, Tchiowa wrote:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote: On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 05:51:22 -0800, Tchiowa wrote: Mike Hunt wrote: Tchiowa wrote: Not bigotry. Where talking about secular vs. religious. Do you struggle with that concept? Did Congress make Christmas a national holiday because it had nothing to do with religion? I doubt it. Congress made it a national holiday because it's part of the culture. And that includes Santa Claus, wreaths, trees, reindeer, elves and a whole of secular facets. And, of course, we'll all just ignore that it's Christ Mass... It doesn't matter what the source of the holiday is. It's a national holiday because it's part of the culture. Whining about it won't change that. Yeah and it would have become a national holiday and part of the culture if Christianity hadn't existed right? -- Mark K. Bilbo ------------------------------------------------------------ "You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards, witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical, absurd and primitive stories, and you say that *we* are the ones that need help?" -Jon Stoll |
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Jews Strive To Restore Christmas Trees At Seattle Airport
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 04:10:35 -0800, markzoom wrote:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote: On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:42:08 -0800, markzoom wrote: Mark K. Bilbo wrote: On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 04:44:06 +0000, flaviaR wrote: On 14-Dec-2006, "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote: On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:36:56 -0800, markzoom wrote: In a way that would be victory for the zionist Rabbi too.... and a blow to freedom. Not having tax funded blinky lights on plastic trees is a "blow to freedom?" Maybe to kooks... Certainly to those who expose themselves and their politics so thoroughly as markzoom. Or did you miss what he called the rabbi....? I left it in, above.... Oh I've seen the rants about the US being run by Da Jooos!!! That's why I used the word "kook." G Actually it's the *zionist* faction of the tiny 2% jewish minority who have hugely disproportionate control over the USAy. One would have to be not just a kook but a completely ignorant moron not to have twigged it by now. Yeah, it's all the *rest of us that are crazy, not you conspiracy nuts. Well you are not so much "crazy" as utterly and completely dumbass ignorant about your US power structure and the sheer scale of the influence of the tiny 1.5% zionist minority on it. Just one little test: What's PNAC? Project for the New American Century. Why? -- Mark K. Bilbo ------------------------------------------------------------ Christianity is to religions as Windows is to operating systems. -Scott (#1045) |
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Jews Strive To Restore Christmas Trees At Seattle Airport
On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:51:18 -0800, Sancho Panza wrote:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote: On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:42:19 -0500, Al Klein wrote: On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 10:35:17 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote: On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 04:44:06 +0000, flaviaR wrote: On 14-Dec-2006, "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote: On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:36:56 -0800, markzoom wrote: In a way that would be victory for the zionist Rabbi too.... and a blow to freedom. Not having tax funded blinky lights on plastic trees is a "blow to freedom?" Maybe to kooks... Certainly to those who expose themselves and their politics so thoroughly as markzoom. Or did you miss what he called the rabbi....? I left it in, above.... Oh I've seen the rants about the US being run by Da Jooos!!! That's why I used the word "kook." G And where did the news story say that the rabbi was a Zionist? Or are all "Jooz" supposed to be Zionists? They run all the banks you know! Actually, the largest bank is owned by a sheik from the Saudi royal family. Shhh! You'll spoil his fun! -- Mark K. Bilbo ------------------------------------------------------------ "There is something feeble and a little contemptible about a man who cannot face the perils of life without the help of comfortable myths. Almost inevitably some part of him is aware that they are myths and that he believes them only because they are comforting. But he dare not face this thought! Moreover, since he is aware, however dimly, that his opinions are not rational, he becomes furious when they are disputed." -Bertrand Russell |
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Jews Strive To Restore Christmas Trees At Seattle Airport
On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:02:10 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" wrote in message ... On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:08:03 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote: "Tchiowa" wrote in message ps.com... wrote: On 14-Dec-2006, wrote: Mark K. Bilbo wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 22:02:49 -0800, Laura Sanchez wrote: Too bad Christianity doesn't return the favor. Excuse me? It's Christians that are the only ones defending Israel and denouncing anti-Semitism. By refusing to add a menorah to the airport display? If there's a choice between displaying all religions and displaying none - and that was ultimately the choice - then the better option is to display none. Which is fine, just so long as you don;t BLAME the people who only asked for equal time. No, the Rabbi asked for special consideration, not equal time. He asked for his religious symbol to be displayed because Christmas symbols were being displayed. But Christmas is the holiday therefore Christmas symbols are appropriate. If the Rabbi wants Hannukah to be a national holiday then let him ask for that. Perhaps you could explain how seeing a mennorah displayed would hurt you. In my town, they display a nativity scene, a mennorah and a tree. Everyone's happy. Weird how easy that was huh? It's shocking, I tell you, shocking! Ya but, you keep appeasing those furriners, they'll up and move into your neighborhood!!! -- Mark K. Bilbo ------------------------------------------------------------ If their omnipotent, omniscient (so they say) god wants me to believe in him, then he should know what would prove his existence to me. He hasn't done so yet, so there is no reason to believe in him. -Woden |
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Jews Strive To Restore Christmas Trees At Seattle Airport
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 05:16:48 -0800, Tchiowa wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote: Tchiowa wrote: PTravel wrote: Sorry, but that makes no sense whatsoever. Christmas isn't objectionable. No one thinks so, and certainly no one has said so. What is objectionable is government subsidization of the cultural traditions particular to one religion, particularly to the exclusion of all others. This is not government subsidization of *anything*! Yes, it is. Who did the government give money to? Sea-Tac International Airport. -- Mark K. Bilbo ------------------------------------------------------------ "Being surprised at the fact that the universe is fine tuned for life is akin to a puddle being surprised at how well it fits its hole" -Douglas Adams |
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Jews Strive To Restore Christmas Trees At Seattle Airport
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 05:27:32 -0800, Tchiowa wrote:
Ben Kaufman wrote: On 14 Dec 2006 16:08:38 -0800, "Tchiowa" wrote: Ben Kaufman wrote: On 14 Dec 2006 01:06:37 -0800, "Tchiowa" wrote: Mike Hunt wrote: Laura Sanchez wrote: Too bad Christianity doesn't return the favor. Excuse me? It's Christians that are the only ones defending Israel and denouncing anti-Semitism. Yet, they can't seem to share the winter holiday season by permitting a one Jewish symbol at the airport. Which "holiday" are you talking about? There is only one *NATIONAL HOLIDAY* and it isn't a Jewish Holiday so why would you put up a Jewish symbol? Putting up a Jewish symbol would be celebrating a holiday that is *PURELY* a religious holiday and not a national holiday and thus would be in clear violation of separation of church and state. Ah constitutionally based bigotry, way to go! Ben Not bigotry. Where talking about secular vs. religious. Do you struggle with that concept? You fail to realize, perhaps, that the national holiday of Christmas is secular and does not give Christians any special decoration rights. I never said that it did. But since it is a national holiday the airport has just as much right to put up Christmas trees at Christmas as it does to put up pictures of Lincoln on President's Day. Whoa. The airport has *NO* rights. It's a municipal corporation. It exist purely to serve the public. Period. -- Mark K. Bilbo ------------------------------------------------------------ "Question with boldness even the existence of God; because if there be one, He must approve the homage of Reason rather than that of blindfolded Fear" - Thomas Jefferson |
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Jews Strive To Restore Christmas Trees At Seattle Airport
On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 16:18:39 -0800, markzoom wrote:
Al Klein wrote: On 14 Dec 2006 04:47:51 -0800, wrote: Lets be clear about this, The Rabbi wanted to display the national emblem of the "STATE" OF ISRAEL at Seattle intenational airport: No, he wanted to display a Chanukiyah, not a candelabrum. He wanted to display a Menorah (which is most definately a candelabrum, as defined in any english dictionary). Are you saying a Chanukiah is not a menorah? Are you saying the the Israeli state emblem is not a Menorah? Are you saying that Menorahs are not candelabra? 7 or 9 candles it's still a Menorah and a Candelabrum. "History: The national emblem of the State of Israel includes a seven branched-candelabrum, called Menorah, flanked by two olive branches." And, at Chanukah, Jews use a 9-branched Chanukiyah to celebrate the holiday. So what, it's still menorah. One is not the other, any more than a PLO flag is a US flag. It's a jewish Menorah, wether it's got 7 or 9 bloody candles, and nobody else uses it as the national emblem. It's the same as if the US national emblem were a christmas tree instead of a bald eagle. And yet, you're the *only person that seems to see it that way. -- Mark K. Bilbo ------------------------------------------------------------ "There is something feeble and a little contemptible about a man who cannot face the perils of life without the help of comfortable myths. Almost inevitably some part of him is aware that they are myths and that he believes them only because they are comforting. But he dare not face this thought! Moreover, since he is aware, however dimly, that his opinions are not rational, he becomes furious when they are disputed." -Bertrand Russell |
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Jews Strive To Restore Christmas Trees At Seattle Airport
Tchiowa wrote: Ray Fischer wrote: Why do you religious bigots never seem to realize that when you resort to such transparent lies it proves that you really don't give a **** about being a Christian? To start with, I'm not a Christian. And neither am I. |
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