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Coping With Child's Tantrum on Plane
In article , ant says...
Bogart wrote: sigh those long haul flights where a baby starts screaming. Not content with merely disturbing neighbouring passengers, the adoring parent (for some reason it's usually the father) decides he has to take the shrieking brat for a leisurely stroll along the length of the cabin so that *everyone* on the flight can admire the lung development of the little horror. Yep, exactly! I always grimly hope that they perambulate through business and first, too. so thye'll be tackled and bashed up by the flight attendants. WTF are those parents thinking? Share the misery? *******s. Right - people do things just to bother you and people like you - that's what they spend their thoughts and energies on, all about how to get your precious attention, y'all are the center that others revolve around. :-/ The *reason* why parents get up with crying babies and walk around is because the movement is soothing to the babies. Banty |
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Coping With Child's Tantrum on Plane
In article , Nobody
wrote: ant wrote: WTF are those parents thinking? Share the misery? *******s. No all babies/kids are alike. And they do not have a on/off or a "snooze for 10 hours" switch to make their stop. Yes, it is easy for a passenger,s point of view to criticise a crying baby and his/her apparently incompetant parents who are unable to quiet the baby and appear to be making strange/stupid moves through the cabin. Some babies/kids are easier to control than others. Some parents have more experience than others. And those who haven't yet found the way to quiet their child are still experimenting with various ways and they appear to be clueless/stupid/silly to others. OK, but that doesn't change the reality that unruly children don't belong on planes. If your child can't behave themself for the duration of the flight, or you can't control them, don't take them on a plane. Hint: if it were so easy to get a kid into "snooze" mode to be quiet for a while, flight attendants would show up next to some screaming kid, perform some magic incantation they learned during FA training and the kid would shut up, stop being agitated and be quiet. Some tricks you learned with your own kid may or may not work on other kids. |
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Coping With Child's Tantrum on Plane
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 10:43:32 +1100, Bogart
wrote: On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:09:01 -0700, Hatunen wrote: On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:59:00 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote: Hatunen writes: There are very few children who haven't thrown a tantrum at some time in their early lives. I must be very lucky, because I've encountered quite a few. You've been watching them all their lives? What are you? A pedophile? Hmmm, a paedophile lame. That's something that's never been tried on usenet before... Huh? -- ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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Coping With Child's Tantrum on Plane
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 18:48:46 +1100, Bogart
wrote: On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 01:29:46 -0500, Nobody wrote: ant wrote: WTF are those parents thinking? Share the misery? *******s. No all babies/kids are alike. And they do not have a on/off or a "snooze for 10 hours" switch to make their stop. Yes, it is easy for a passenger,s point of view to criticise a crying baby and his/her apparently incompetant parents who are unable to quiet the baby and appear to be making strange/stupid moves through the cabin. I'll type this slowly for you: It never frigging works. The sprog howls, the proud sperm donor marches it up and down the aisles so that the entire ****ing passenger load is disturbed by it. You do understand, despite your paranoia, that the reason a parent walks a baby who is upset is because it usually soothes the baby? This is even done at home when you aren't around to irritate. Some babies/kids are easier to control than others. Exactly. See the comment re gaffer tape and beatings earlier in this thread. Some parents have more experience than others. And those who haven't yet found the way to quiet their child are still experimenting with various ways and they appear to be clueless/stupid/silly to others. Hint: if it were so easy to get a kid into "snooze" mode to be quiet for a while, flight attendants would show up next to some screaming kid, perform some magic incantation they learned during FA training and the kid would shut up, stop being agitated and be quiet. Some tricks you learned with your own kid may or may not work on other kids. Hint: don't march your screaming poo machine up and down the entire friggin' plane while I'm in the cabin. I don't want to hear it. Who gives a **** what you want to hear? You're the least of the parents' problems. -- ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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Coping With Child's Tantrum on Plane
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 14:44:09 +0100, Mxsmanic
wrote: Nobody writes: No all babies/kids are alike. And they do not have a on/off or a "snooze for 10 hours" switch to make their stop. True. Bad behavior runs in families. Yes, it is easy for a passenger,s point of view to criticise a crying baby and his/her apparently incompetant parents who are unable to quiet the baby and appear to be making strange/stupid moves through the cabin. Parents are passengers, too, and many passengers are parents. You're making a specious distinction between the two. Some babies/kids are easier to control than others. Some parents have more experience than others. And those who haven't yet found the way to quiet their child are still experimenting with various ways and they appear to be clueless/stupid/silly to others. Many of them _are_ stupid. It runs in families. Hint: if it were so easy to get a kid into "snooze" mode to be quiet for a while, flight attendants would show up next to some screaming kid, perform some magic incantation they learned during FA training and the kid would shut up, stop being agitated and be quiet. Some tricks you learned with your own kid may or may not work on other kids. Benadryl works on all kids. So does proper parenting, but many parents are incompetent. I was with you up to there, but proper parenting doesn't always work. For one thing a baby is too young to have had things work yet; reasoning certainly doesn't work. -- ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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Coping With Child's Tantrum on Plane
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 16:48:36 +1100, "ant" wrote:
Bogart wrote: sigh those long haul flights where a baby starts screaming. Not content with merely disturbing neighbouring passengers, the adoring parent (for some reason it's usually the father) decides he has to take the shrieking brat for a leisurely stroll along the length of the cabin so that *everyone* on the flight can admire the lung development of the little horror. Yep, exactly! I always grimly hope that they perambulate through business and first, too. so thye'll be tackled and bashed up by the flight attendants. WTF are those parents thinking? Share the misery? *******s. I don't normally take the side of the screaming kid, but often the motion of walking soothes the child and may just calm him/her down and put the kid to sleep or at least stop the screaming. Jim P. |
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Coping With Child's Tantrum on Plane
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 10:08:34 -0800, Alan Street
wrote: OK, but that doesn't change the reality that unruly children don't belong on planes. If your child can't behave themself for the duration of the flight, or you can't control them, don't take them on a plane. Unfortunately, you don't usually know that until it's too late. -- ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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Coping With Child's Tantrum on Plane
Hatunen writes:
Who gives a **** what you want to hear? You sound just like a parent. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Coping With Child's Tantrum on Plane
Hatunen writes:
I was with you up to there, but proper parenting doesn't always work. For one thing a baby is too young to have had things work yet; reasoning certainly doesn't work. The sources I've ready say otherwise. I suppose it's true that a stupid child might not benefit as much from proper parenting, but competent parents tend to be smart, and so do their children. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Coping With Child's Tantrum on Plane
Hatunen writes:
Unfortunately, you don't usually know that until it's too late. A parent would have to be really out of touch with his children to be surprised to that extent. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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