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VOTE: Shrub in 04
"None" wrote in message link.net...
George W. Bush, For the Record: I replaced Los Angeles with Houston as the most smog-ridden city in America. I'm getting really tired of Houston being used as a political punching bag. First it was TV campaign commercials and political conventions. Now it's this stupid resume going around. Ozone is only one component of air pollution; there are five others, according to the EPA. Houston surpassed L.A. in ozone only (not other kinds of air pollution or pollution overall) and only in 1999-2000. These will be of interest: http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m12.../article.jhtml "Anyone who claims that Houston's smog problems are equal to or worse than L.A.'s is misinformed," says Kay Jones, a former EPA official who now consults on air quality." http://www.dallasnews.com/texas_sout....af.0.a4.cccba. html "In some ways, calling Houston America's smoggiest city misrepresented the relative quality of air in the two cities. Los Angeles' air is worse than Houston's in other categories. But ozone is the primary pollutant of concern and therefore gets more attention, officials said." http://www.rice.edu/projects/reno/rn...lates/air.html "Houston's number of ozone violation days are actually somewhat fewer than in the 1980s. The difference seems to be that Los Angeles has improved more and faster." Those were older articles. Here's more recent info on ozone violations: http://www.lungusa.org/air2001/analysis02.html#c2c State of the Air 2002 "For the third straight year, the top four most ozone-polluted metropolitan areas were in California: Los Angeles-Riverside-Orange County; Bakersfield; Fresno; and Visalia-Tulare-Porterville. The state also has the five most ozone-polluted counties: San Bernadino has been number 1 three years in a row; Kern, comes in at number 2 this year, after claiming the number 3 spot for the previous two years; Fresno moves up to number 3 after two years as the fourth-most polluted county, Riverside is number 4, after two years as the second-most polluted county; and Tulare, number five for the second year in a row." And overall air quality: http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory...olitan/2056693 Number of days in 2000-2002 when air quality was unhealthy 1. Riverside-San Bernardino, Ca. 445 days 2. Fresno, Ca. 421 3. Bakersfield, Ca. 409 4. Los Angeles-Long Beach, Ca. 255 5. Sacramento, Ca. 163 6. Pittsburgh, Penn. 134 7. Knoxville, Tenn. 109 8. Birmingham, Al. 100 9. Houston, Tx. 94 10. Baltimore, Md. 93 It should also be remembered that ozone (a component of smog) is not the only kind of air pollution, and probably not even the most dangerous: http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science....ap/index.html ".... 1999-2001 EPA data, do not take into account a pollutant that's considered more dangerous than smog -- tiny particles of soot that can lodge deep in the lungs and cause heart problems and even death." http://bicycleaustin.info/articles/p...cise-risk.html "Severe particulate (soot) pollution exists in many urban and desert areas, including Los Angeles, Philadelphia, Chicago, New York City, Salt Lake City and Phoenix, which in 1998 surpassed Riverside, Calif., with the nation's highest particulate levels. Levels of particulate matter in Houston's air do not exceed the limit set in the current national health standard for that air pollutant." I could care less what people think of Bush, but they need to leave lies and exaggerations about Houston and Texas out of it. Obviously, Houston is hardly the "air pollution capital" it was made out to be. |
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VOTE: Shrub in 04
"jjp" wrote in message m... I could care less what people think of Bush, but they need to leave lies and exaggerations about Houston and Texas out of it. But. . .Texas SUCKS! That's why people pick on it so much! |
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VOTE: Shrub in 04
"None" wrote in message link.net...
"jjp" wrote in message om... "None" wrote in message link.net... "jjp" wrote in message m... I could care less what people think of Bush, but they need to leave lies and exaggerations about Houston and Texas out of it. But. . .Texas SUCKS! That's why people pick on it so much! People pick on places like TX and CA because they are different and powerful, and some people don't like this. People are also generally very ignorant about Texas. Most of the Texas-bashing lately is simply because Bush used to be governer. "Sucking" has nothing to do with it, and you know it. I know no such thing. However, this isn't the proper forum to start laying out all the negative stuff that is so predominately Texas! Wouldn't matter, because most of what you layed out would probably be exaggerations, ignorance, and irrelevant info. I gave lots of evidence showing why the Houston pollution problem was an exaggeration and was being reported wrongly in the "resume", and you simply clipped it and only had the comeback "Texas sucks". So I don't think you actually care much about facts. Texas had a bad rep long before the shrub Mostly because of people's ignorance -- not because of the truth. started ripping off the state so you can't really blame him for the image that Texas has, and has had, for such a very long time. It all got much worse starting with the last presidential election. In all fairness, a LOT of states suck! Sorry, but I simply think that is too much of an over-generalization to be a subject worthy of intellectual conversation. |
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VOTE: Shrub in 04
"None" wrote in message
ink.net... In all fairness, a LOT of states suck! Someday sit down and compare Texas to Colorado and you'll see what sucking is all about! Colorado? Had you said North Dakota, it might have been somewhat plausible, but, Colorado rocks! KM -- (-:alohacyberian:-) At my website there are 3000 live cameras or visit NASA, play games, read jokes, send greeting cards & connect to CNN news, NBA, the White House, Academy Awards or learn all about Hawaii, Israel and mo http://keith.martin.home.att.net/ |
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VOTE: Shrub in 04
jjp wrote:
No -- but even though many districts are doing the same thing, the Houston example was what was brought up -- because of Paige, and because it's in Houston (so it fit right in with the current political and media Houston-bashing trend). That's sounding a little paranoid. What we mainly hear about Houston is nothing at all. miguel -- See the world from your web browser: http://travel.u.nu/ |
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Shrub in 04
"Eugene D'Jeep" wrote in message ... What does all of this have to do with flying? You've heard the expression . . ."when pigs fly!" ??? Well, when Shrub & Co. illegally absconded with the white house . . . Pigs Flew! |
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VOTE: Shrub in 04
(me) wrote in message . com...
(jjp) wrote in message om... "None" wrote in message link.net... [snip] Texas had a bad rep long before the shrub Mostly because of people's ignorance -- not because of the truth. Well, we're throwing around words like "most" so I'm in no position to comment. But as a personal antidote, I had virtually no opinion of Texas until after I started visiting it for one reason or another. It went down hill fast after that. Having had 3 siblings all who moved to AND AWAY, from Texas, the conclusion was basically the same, there were better places to spend a life. This And as a personal antidote of my own -- for each of them, I know probably 3-5 others who would disagree. I'm sure the volume and harshness got worse, don't mistake that for any sort of "newness" though. Attention was just drawn to what was already in existence. It's not that we're thinking anything new about Texas, it's just that before, we didn't tend to think about Texas at all. Not totally true, considering that several "points" brought up about Texas in the last election were either exaggerated or false. In all fairness, a LOT of states suck! Sorry, but I simply think that is too much of an over-generalization to be a subject worthy of intellectual conversation. If one wants to talk about "most" it is sorta illustrative to realize that something like 25% of the population lives in two relatively narrow strips in this country. One strip runs roughly between Boston and DC including virtually of all New Jersey plus Baltimore and Philly. Then the other strip is between San Diego and the Larger LA area. I saw some statistic once that some incredible percentage of the population lived between the Applalations and the eastern seaboard, or between some California Mountian range and the Pacific. (These were rough lines which extended the full height of the country north and south, virtually all of Florida was included). The discussion was related to the electoral college and popular elections, but it struck me how much of the population for one reason or another chooses to live in some of the highest population regions. And in the context of this discussion, That's only about 1/3 of the states, which would imply the other 2/3 "suck" to most people. Then Texas must not "suck" that much, considering it's the second most populous state after CA, and has three of the country's top ten largest cities... |
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VOTE: Shrub in 04
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