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November 19th, 2003, 12:14 AM
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Mayor of London says Bush is 'greatest threat to life on planet'
Are you joking?
"Jeffrey Hacker" wrote in message ... The mayor of London has no standing to coment on Bush's legitimacy. Frankly, there are those of us out here that think that the world is a better place because of him. For you non-Americans out there, don't undersestimate the man. "Meghan Powers" wrote in message ... [430 days to regime change in the US and counting.] **Half of London's Police Will Be Guarding Bush... **250 U.S. Secret Service Agents Carrying Guns... **Mobile phones may be blocked for periods of President Bush's visit amid fears that they could be used to trigger a bomb -------------- http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/pol...p?story=464783 Livingstone says Bush is 'greatest threat to life on planet' By Nigel Morris, Home Affairs Correspondent 18 November 2003 Ken Livingstone, the Mayor of London, launched a stinging attack on President George Bush last night, denouncing him as the "greatest threat to life on this planet that we've most probably ever seen". His provocatively timed comments, on the eve of Mr Bush's arrival in London tonight, threaten to create severe embarrassment for the Prime Minister. They also come with talks under way on whether to readmit Mr Livingstone to the Labour Party before his five-year exile ends. Although he made his many differences with the Government on a range of issues clear, he reserved his strongest comments in an interview with The Ecologist magazine for the American President. Mr Livingstone recalled a visit at Easter to California, where he was denounced for an attack he had made on what he called "the most corrupt and racist American administration in over 80 years". The mayor said: "Some US journalist came up to me and said: 'How can you say this about President Bush?' Well, I think what I said then was quite mild. I actually think that Bush is the greatest threat to life on this planet that we've most probably ever seen. The policies he is initiating will doom us to extinction." Mr Livingstone, who is holding a "peace party" for anti-war groups in City Hall tomorrow, added: "I don't formally recognise George Bush because he was not officially elected. So we are organising an alternative reception for everybody who is not George Bush." He said he supported stronger links between European Union countries only because he wanted to see a powerful bloc emerge to rival the United States. "The American agenda is sweeping everything before it, and although it's not perfect, the EU is better on environmental issues. It's a less rapacious form of capitalism." The mayor said he had viewed Labour's 1997 election manifesto as a "load of old guff they'd come out with because they didn't want to upset the Daily Mail" that would rapidly be ditched. "I was amazed when it transpired that Blair had been serious," he said. Accusing the Prime Minister of suffering from a "background problem", he said: "There is nothing in his past that was radicalising. He wasn't interested in all the great student activities, the radical campaigns. "He did not get involved in politics until the 1970s, when the high point was passed. So you have someone of the summer of '68 generation who actually wasn't part of it." On genetically-modified foods, he said: "If the Government ignores public opinion, then civil disobedience on this issue is legitimate, as long as it's not violent. "But the most important thing that affects a government is not peaceful protest, but fear of the ballot box. The comments will infuriate Downing Street at a time when it is examining ways of bringing Mr Livingstone, who was expelled for standing as an independent in the London mayoral elections of 2000, back into the Labour fold. Tony Blair's spokesman said last night: "His views are for Ken Livingstone. They are a matter for him. The Prime Minister has made his views well-known in this respect and looks forward to meeting the President." AS THE PRESIDENT PREPARES TO VISIT SEDGEFIELD, TONY BLAIR'S CONSTITUENCY, WILL HE BE WELCOME? Chris Lloyd, political editor of The Northern Echo: "The paper is Bush neutral and he has a right to visit but equally, the people here have a right to demonstrate. I hope he gets to see all, or at least some of those protests and I hope Mr Blair will explain what they are about because that's what friends are for. Despite Mr Bush's unpopularity, there is a frisson of excitement because nothing of this magnitude has ever happened there." Lucy Hovvels, vice-chairwoman of Sedgefield constituency and Labour councillor in Trimdon: "I've had local people asking where they can get Union Jacks and American flags because they think it's an exciting and historic visit. I really believe Bush will get a warm welcome in Trimdon and the mood is one of excitement. We have the two most important people in the world coming to us - no one would otherwise know where Trimdon is." Richard Wanless, co-ordinator of the 'Sedgefield Against War' protest: "The visit is a massive security risk and for those living in the area, it jeopardises our safety. No matter where he goes, there will be protests from London to the North-east to make sure he knows he is not welcome. To me, he is a war criminal that has illegal occupation of Iraq. To add to the insult, there are families here who lost their children to the war." The Rev Martin King, rector of Sedgefield: "A lot of people here are very angry with the way the US administration is putting itself above the law. One person in my congregation said if President Bush wanted to look around the church, he would be welcome because it is a place for sinners, but he hoped his henchmen would leave their ironware at the door. His policies are very unwelcome in the region - I have not heard anyone voicing support for him." Martin Callanan, Conservative MEP for Sedgefield: "The visit is hugely beneficial for the area. Most of the security threat to the people in Sedgefield will be represented by left-wing demonstrators. And how would we feel if our Prime Minister, whatever his political party, was treated similarly in another part of the world? It was Blair's decision to send our troops to Iraq, so those who are anti-war should not take it out on Bush." Martin McTague, former chairman of the North-east Regional Federation of Small Businesses: "It will put Sedgefield on the map and benefit the image of the North-east. Our business community is often viewed as a backwater and this will redress some of the old stereotypes. Because this is Blair's constituency, a security risk is always there. The fact that Bush will be with him increases that risk but it is a notional increase." 
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#13
November 19th, 2003, 02:22 AM
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Mayor of London says JF Mezei is 'greatest threat to life onplane
Don't you mean Mezei ass felcher? You follow him around so much, you
must get a raging woody every time he posts. Get a ****ing life, you sad sack of ****. At least grow enough hair around your nuts to post with a real email addy, not a cowardly remailer, ya ponce. Mezei Troll Watch wrote: Message-ID: From: Johnny Raccoon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.travel.air Subject: Mayor of London says Bush is 'greatest threat to life on planet' References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Forwarded: by - (DeleGate/8.5.4) Lines: 9 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:12:07 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.230.46.34 X-Complaints-To: X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1069193408 64.230.46.34 (Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:10:08 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:10:08 EST Organization: Bell Sympatico For you non-Americans out there, don't undersestimate the man. And for you Americans, don't underestimate the damage your president has caused to the United States and to the USA's standing in the world. Had Americans not underestimated Bush/Cheney/Wumsfeld abilities to lie and deceipt, perhaps they would have forced the democrats to actually oppose the selected president instead of blindily supporting his illegal invasion of Iraq and blatant insults at its international allies. ---------- Message-ID: From: JF Mezei X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Printer problem References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Forwarded: by - (DeleGate/8.5.4) Lines: 16 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:30:54 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.230.46.34 X-Complaints-To: X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1069194533 64.230.46.34 (Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:28:53 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:28:53 EST Organization: Bell Sympatico Insomnee wrote: Another problem I have is where I have a Square Root symbol at the top left of the first page, either when I have the banner page or as the first character on the page if I go without. Anyone got any ideas on either? $SHOW QUEUE/FULL to see which form is currently being used. $SHOW QUEUE/FORM/FULL to see what is the /SETUP module associated with the form. Then check out the contents of that module to see if it wouldn't be sending commands that don't agree with what you want it to do. Or, if other queueus work and this one doesn't work, compare the mounted forms and then change the deffective queue to have the same form as the queues that work -------------------- Some of JF Mezei's trolling aliases: Flapping Labias Throbbing vulva Twin Gonads Loose Scrotum Raised Organ Popped Cherry Monica Lewinski Deep Fried Foreskin Aroma of Smegma Wet fart Pubic dandruff Voluptuous Nipple Inserted Finger Pubic Nair Flatulent Meatus Lihk Mhygroin Pre Khum Phi Mosis Bal Anatis Fren Ullum Ivanna Getlaid Ivanna Wankalot Ivanna Umpalot Wan Tnoneofit Wan Itbad Wan Towank Wan Tolik Testos Terone Upper Gonad Right Gonad Left Gonad Tyson's Glands Nose Hair Coronal Sulcus Corpus Cavernus Armpit moisture Onani Room Arnie's Banana Raised eyebrows Vas Deferens Naked Canuck Arni's socks Notable Exception Unpopped Cherry Tatooed Ovaries Pierced eyelid Limp Tomato Eggplant Earrings Banana Underpants Naval Lint Ingrown Toenail Empty Stomach Full Stomach Smelly Cat Torn Ligament Art Tistic Furry Raccoon Wet Racoon Mad Racoon Lazy Racoon Eaten Racoon Happy Raccoon Sleeping Racoon Hungry Racoon Horny Raccoon Smart Raccoon George W Raccoon Ronald McRaccoon Thirsty Raccoon Johnny Raccoon Oshi Santo Oishi Chinko T.Yellow Q Borg Queen etc.
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#14
November 19th, 2003, 02:23 AM
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Mayor of London says Bush is 'greatest threat to life on planet'
"Reef Fish" wrote in message m... "Jeffrey Hacker" wrote in message m... ......... I regret NOW that I had booked a trip to London during his visit to our ONLY sympathizer (UK) of His War. Had I known, I would have gone to anywhere on this planet EXCEPT London during his visit of our Ally. Sigh Australia also sent troops. Some other countries (a rather odd collection as far as I remember, including some heavily dependent on US aid) declared their support but I don't know if any of them sent troops.
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November 19th, 2003, 02:37 AM
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Mayor of London says Bush is 'greatest threat to life on planet'
RAK wrote:
Australia also sent troops. Some other countries (a rather odd collection as far as I remember, including some heavily dependent on US aid) declared their support but I don't know if any of them sent troops. Yea, there are some pollaks there (someone want to explain that?). The Spanish are also somehow involved. Geeze, where are the Kuwaiti's? What a bunch of ingrates not to be sending their own troops to help their former US benefactors in a previous conflict with Iraq. Same goes for Saudia Arabia - a country so threatened by Iraq and Saddam 10 years ago that the US had to start operation Desert Shield to protect them and keep troops there ever since. Turkey also knows how to slap the US face. As far as sending troops to Iraq, Japan is still "assessing" the situation...
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November 19th, 2003, 03:32 AM
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Mayor of London says Bush is 'greatest threat to life on planet'
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November 19th, 2003, 04:01 AM
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Mayor of London says Bush is 'greatest threat to life on planet'
Johnny Raccoon wrote in message ...
For you non-Americans out there, don't undersestimate the man. And for you Americans, don't underestimate the damage your president has caused to the United States and to the USA's standing in the world. I AM an American. YOU underestimate the Americans. Many of us were as strongly opposed to Bush's misguided aggression on Day 1 as we do now. -- Bob.
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#18
November 19th, 2003, 04:07 AM
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Mayor of London says Bush is 'greatest threat to life on planet'
Craig Welch wrote:
As far as sending troops to Iraq, Japan is still "assessing" the situation... As it should. Its constitution doesn't allow it to commit to a war. So why was it so quick to put itself on the list of the "coalition of the willing" ? (or more correctly the "coalition of the co-opted") BTW, just like the WMD, the coalition list was missing even before the invasion (I dare anyone to find a state dept. document / web page with the list as it existed before and during the invasion).
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November 19th, 2003, 04:08 AM
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Mayor of London says Bush is 'greatest threat to life on planet'
scott wrote in message . ..
That is irrelevant. Who cares what the Mayor of London thinks? Perhaps thos who live there do, but outside of London he has no standing, especially over here in the US. This is true. Never heard of the Mayor or London until now. What makes you think Bush has any standing in the USA on this particular issue? Bush has come out on the short end on every recent public polls I've seen on national news. -- Bob.
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November 19th, 2003, 04:29 AM
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Mayor of London says Bush is 'greatest threat to life on planet'
AJC wrote:
Simply not true though. Regardless of whether or not one agrees with the politics of Livingston or Bush, the former was elected to office with a clear, legitimate, undisputable majority, and looks likely to be re-elected in the same way. The latter was not. On that basis the mayor of London has every standing to comment on Bush's legitimacy. In this country (the US), we do not directly elect our president and a clear undisputable majority is not a requirement for a legitimate election. Like him or not - the current present has every bit of constitutional legitimacy as any previous president. Furthermore (as long as we are having a basic civics lesson) - the US is not a democracy. Our country's founders (you know - those horrible old white guys) were very concerned about the tyranny of the majority. That's one of the reasons why we have a democratic republic.
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