I should have taken the train

They don't have automated Kiosks at PHL for Frontier.

AFAIK Travelocity/Orbitz/etc. don't provide a "print boarding pass"
option when you buy a ticket. They do however provide seat selection,
and tell you to check in at the ticket counter.

"Rusty Waters" wrote in message
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They don't have automated Kiosks at PHL for Frontier.

You may want to consider that when choosing airlines.

What really drives me insane is that when you buy a ticket on one airline
that is codesharing with another, the airline you bought the ticket from
will not let you check in -- their kiosks and web site will claim they've
never heard of you. You have to go to the airline that actually operates
the flight to check in, which can eat up a lot of time if their desks are in
different parts of the airport (or worse, different terminals) or if you
don't have a printed itinerary with that detail on it. My company travel
agent only shows the ticketed airline, not the operating one, and I run into
this problem every few weeks.

AFAIK Travelocity/Orbitz/etc. don't provide a "print boarding pass"
option when you buy a ticket. They do however provide seat selection,
and tell you to check in at the ticket counter.

You would go to Frontier's web page, put in your frequent flyer number or
confirmation number, and print the boarding pass from there. Travel agents
usually can't print the boarding pass, just the airline.

S

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"Rusty Waters" wrote in message
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What really drives me insane is that when you buy a ticket on one
airline that is codesharing with another, the airline you bought the
ticket from will not let you check in --

My company travel agent only shows the
ticketed airline, not the operating one, and I run into this problem
every few weeks.


I would bitch to the TA. There is a requirement that code shares be
identified, it isn't hard to find out. I don't know what technology your
company agent uses but they should be telling you important travel data.



--
Joseph Coulter
Cruises and Vacations
http://www.josephcoulter.com/

Stephen Sprunk wrote:

"Rusty Waters" wrote in message
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They don't have automated Kiosks at PHL for Frontier.


You may want to consider that when choosing airlines.

What really drives me insane is that when you buy a ticket on one
airline that is codesharing with another, the airline you bought the
ticket from will not let you check in -- their kiosks and web site will
claim they've never heard of you. You have to go to the airline that
actually operates the flight to check in, which can eat up a lot of time
if their desks are in different parts of the airport (or worse,
different terminals) or if you don't have a printed itinerary with that
detail on it. My company travel agent only shows the ticketed airline,
not the operating one, and I run into this problem every few weeks.


I would suggest that you initiate a discussion within the company as to
how they can find a competent travel agent.

Codeshares? Kiosks? Travel Agents? Printing boarding passes from the
internet? FAA web sites with inaccurate real time flight delay
reports? Arriving at the airport 90 minutes before scheduled
departure, regardless of weather? Can't buy tickets on board? All to
be packed in like claustrophic sardines? No exchanges or refunds for
missed flights? Not to mention, those old saws, "Folks, we're now #13
for takeoff" and "We're in a holding pattern for landing, we should be
on the ground in another 90 minutes." Somehow I used to think that
air travel was an improvement in convenience over rail travel.

According to old-timers, it was 18 hours to Chicago by rail, then
another 36 hours to the west coast. Leave Friday night, arrive Monday
morning, multiple departures per day. High speed rail could do even
better with today's technology. Still sounds better to me than the
confused, improved, airline system that replaced it.

"Rusty Waters" wrote in message
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According to old-timers, it was 18 hours to Chicago by rail, then
another 36 hours to the west coast. Leave Friday night, arrive Monday
morning, multiple departures per day. High speed rail could do even
better with today's technology. Still sounds better to me than the
confused, improved, airline system that replaced it.

For most people flying is a very simple process with the most uncertainty
being if the plane is late or not.

I just get off of a van from off site parking that lets me off at the
airline terminal. I spend about a minute at the kiosk for it to print a
boarding pass.

To get the pass I inserted an identification card like a credit card and
push buttons to select options for my prearranged flight that I did online
at work or home.

Five minutes through security and walk to my gate where I wait until they
announce the plane is boarding. I board and sit down.

Easy.

I have walked on at times just as I arrive at the gate. I usually like to
have a little more cushion in time

"Rusty Waters" wrote in message
oups.com...
Codeshares? Kiosks? Travel Agents? Printing boarding passes from the
internet? FAA web sites with inaccurate real time flight delay
reports? Arriving at the airport 90 minutes before scheduled
departure, regardless of weather? Can't buy tickets on board? All to
be packed in like claustrophic sardines? No exchanges or refunds for
missed flights? Not to mention, those old saws, "Folks, we're now #13
for takeoff" and "We're in a holding pattern for landing, we should be
on the ground in another 90 minutes." Somehow I used to think that
air travel was an improvement in convenience over rail travel.

According to old-timers, it was 18 hours to Chicago by rail, then
another 36 hours to the west coast. Leave Friday night, arrive Monday
morning, multiple departures per day. High speed rail could do even
better with today's technology. Still sounds better to me than the
confused, improved, airline system that replaced it.

With more than half-dozen nonstops to SFO, why would one go with a line that
has two flights a day, this particular one with a 40-minutes turnaround at
DIA. The fares do not appear to differ significantly. And if Amtrak service
to the East Bay whets your appetite, there are always the 11 or so Southwest
flights to OAK, including a couple of nonstops, at an even lower price.
Heaven fofend!


Here is today's Amtrak reality for your "old-timers" trip:

Service

Scheduled Departure

Scheduled Arrival

Duration

184 Regional Service
Philadelphia, PA
30th Street Station
(PHL)
1:21 pm
21-JUN-06
New York, NY
Penn Station
(NYP)
2:45 pm
21-JUN-06
1h 24m

49 Lakeshore Limited
New York, NY
Penn Station
(NYP)
3:20 pm
21-JUN-06
Chicago, IL
Union Station
(CHI)
9:05 am
22-JUN-06
18h 45m

5 California Zephyr
Chicago, IL
Union Station
(CHI)
1:50 pm
22-JUN-06
Emeryville, CA
(EMY)
4:49 pm
24-JUN-06
52h 59m

5005 Thruway Bus
Emeryville, CA
(EMY)
5:05 pm
24-JUN-06
San Francisco, CA
Ferry Bldg
(SFC)
5:50 pm
24-JUN-06
0h 45m

125 Regional Service
Philadelphia, PA
30th Street Station
(PHL)
12:58 pm
21-JUN-06
Washington, DC
Union Station
(WAS)
2:45 pm
21-JUN-06
1h 47m

29 Capitol Limited
Washington, DC
Union Station
(WAS)
3:55 pm
21-JUN-06
Chicago, IL
Union Station
(CHI)
8:30 am
22-JUN-06
17h 35m

5 California Zephyr
Chicago, IL
Union Station
(CHI)
1:50 pm
22-JUN-06
Emeryville, CA
(EMY)
4:49 pm
24-JUN-06
52h 59m

5005 Thruway Bus
Emeryville, CA
(EMY)
5:05 pm
24-JUN-06
San Francisco, CA
Ferry Bldg
(SFC)
5:50 pm
24-JUN-06
0h 45m

95 Regional Service
Philadelphia, PA
30th Street Station
(PHL)
11:58 am
21-JUN-06
Washington, DC
Union Station
(WAS)
1:48 pm
21-JUN-06
1h 50m

29 Capitol Limited
Washington, DC
Union Station
(WAS)
3:55 pm
21-JUN-06
Chicago, IL
Union Station
(CHI)
8:30 am
22-JUN-06
17h 35m

5 California Zephyr
Chicago, IL
Union Station
(CHI)
1:50 pm
22-JUN-06
Emeryville, CA
(EMY)
4:49 pm
24-JUN-06
52h 59m

5005 Thruway Bus
Emeryville, CA
(EMY)
5:05 pm
24-JUN-06
San Francisco, CA
Ferry Bldg
(SFC)
5:50 pm
24-JUN-06
0h 45m

Rusty Waters wrote:

According to old-timers, it was 18 hours to Chicago by rail, then
another 36 hours to the west coast. Leave Friday night, arrive Monday
morning, multiple departures per day. High speed rail could do even
better with today's technology. Still sounds better to me than the
confused, improved, airline system that replaced it.


I am one of the "old-timers" who have had this experience by US
railroads. We used to train between Chicago and Philadelphia.
I think our on time arrivals were around 0 percent.

On Sun, 21 May 2006 17:23:45 -0700, "Jack May"
wrote:


"Rusty Waters" wrote in message
roups.com...


According to old-timers, it was 18 hours to Chicago by rail, then
another 36 hours to the west coast. Leave Friday night, arrive Monday
morning, multiple departures per day. High speed rail could do even
better with today's technology. Still sounds better to me than the
confused, improved, airline system that replaced it.

For most people flying is a very simple process with the most uncertainty
being if the plane is late or not.

I just get off of a van from off site parking that lets me off at the
airline terminal. I spend about a minute at the kiosk for it to print a
boarding pass.

To get the pass I inserted an identification card like a credit card and
push buttons to select options for my prearranged flight that I did online
at work or home.

Five minutes through security and walk to my gate where I wait until they
announce the plane is boarding. I board and sit down.

Easy.

I have walked on at times just as I arrive at the gate. I usually like to
have a little more cushion in time


What a wonderful, wonderful experience air travel must be for you.

It is too bad the majority of air travelers cannot say the same thing.

You forgot to mention that you swallowed a few tranquilizers before
staring you trip.

That's why you are then in a state of stupor.

"John" wrote in message
...
What a wonderful, wonderful experience air travel must be for you.

It is too bad the majority of air travelers cannot say the same thing.

That is the average traveler I see all around me when I travel. I seldom
see people that are all confused trying to figure out how to get to their
flight.

The infrequent flyer fumbles more getting their shoes and belt off along
with getting the luggage through the X-ray machine, but that is about the
only difference.

Obviously you never or seldom fly if you so incompetently describe the
normal conditions.