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Old November 18th, 2003, 10:18 PM
Meghan Powers
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"The bill will run to at least £7m, and the British taxpayer will pay
for it."

For you Brits: Take heart. You're paying to protect him for only a
few days. Americans have been paying for years (which will come to an
end Jan 20 / 05 if there is any shred of sanity left in the US)
----------------------

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/pol...p?story=464815
President will be protected by 16,000 police officers
By Jason Bennetto, Crime Correspondent
18 November 2003


One in nine police officers in England and Wales will be protecting
George Bush on his state visit to Britain, which begins today.

Ten thousand more police officers have been drafted in amid rising
concerns about the threat from terrorists and the scale of anti-war
demonstrations. That brings to 16,000 the number of policemen and
women who will be deployed during the four-day trip.

The bill will run to at least £7m, and the British taxpayer will pay
for it.

The Metropolitan Police announced that it was boosting the numbers of
officers on duty in London from 5,000 to 14,000.

The unprecedented security operation, which begins when the President
arrives in London this evening, is partly in response to new
intelligence that indicates violent anti-Bush demonstrators are
travelling from continental Europe to protest in the capital.

Police also believe the national rally through London on Thursday will
be far bigger than previously thought, with in excess of 100,000 now
expected. Anti-war protesters were yesterday given permission by the
Met to march down Whitehall, close to Parliament, having been earlier
denied that route by Scotland Yard.

Anti-terrorist specialists are also growing increasingly concerned
about possible al-Qa'ida attacks. This fear has been heightened by the
bombings of two synagogues in Istanbul, which killed at least 23
people and wounded 300 on Saturday.

As well as the massive police operation in London, around 1,300
officers will be on duty when President Bush has lunch with Tony Blair
and a group of residents in the Prime Minister's Sedgefield
constituency on Friday.

All police leave has been cancelled in Durham Constabulary and
officers from neighbouring forces will be drafted in as part of an
operation costing £1m. The cost of the Metropolitan Police's
deployments are expected to be in excess of £5m, while up to £1m is
being spent on extra security at ports and airports.

On the eve of the American President's state visit, Mr Blair said he
stood by the decision to invite Mr Bush to Britain.

Opposition to the President's visit appears to be growing daily.
Concerns about the scale and intensity of the anti-war demonstrations
prompted Scotland Yard to announce yesterday that they were almost
tripling the number of officers on duty over the four-day period. A
police source also disclosed that a number of anarchists and other
extremists were travelling by train and ferry to Britain and were
expected to take part in "ad hoc" violent demonstrations in London.
The troublemakers are not expected to take part in the official Stop
the War Coalition rally, which won permission yesterday to march past
Parliament, bearing right along Whitehall and congregating in
Trafalgar Square. At first the police had wanted to use an ancient law
to forbid marchers going past Parliament. Jeremy Corbyn, a Labour MP
who took part in the negotiations, said: "The march is going to be
huge, very well stewarded and very well ordered."

Sir John Stevens, the Commissioner of the Met, has promised not to
shield President Bush from"embarrassing" demonstrations. Deputy
Assistant Commissioner Andy Trotter, who is in charge of policing the
demonstrations, said the decision to increase the number of officers
on duty to 14,000 had been taken primarily because of security
concerns. "We're on a very high level of alert at the moment - we
obviously have the visit of the President coinciding with that and
we've got to make sure that London is kept safe and the visit goes
well.

"At the same time we're concerned about disorder, not only the
potential for disorder from the march itself but there will always be
other opportunities over the few days of his visit and we've got to
make sure we've got sufficient resources to deal with that." The
police also remained "very concerned" about the level of threat posed
by al-Qa'ida.

Mr Bush will be privately greeted by the Prince of Wales on his
arrival this evening and will be the guest of the Queen at a banquet
at Buckingham Palace on Wednesday.

On Thursday, the President will lay a wreath at the Tomb of the
Unknown Warrior before talks with the Mr Blair. He will also meet
relatives of British victims of the attacks on 11 September as well as
servicemen who fought in Iraq.
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Old November 18th, 2003, 11:32 PM
Peter L
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"Meghan Powers" wrote in message
...

"The bill will run to at least £7m, and the British taxpayer will pay
for it."

For you Brits: Take heart. You're paying to protect him for only a
few days. Americans have been paying for years (which will come to an
end Jan 20 / 05 if there is any shred of sanity left in the US)


No it won't. Whether he gets re-elected or not, he and his family will get
life time secret service protection, just like any other President or
ex-president. And whoever is elected will still get the same level of
protection.


----------------------

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/pol...p?story=464815
President will be protected by 16,000 police officers
By Jason Bennetto, Crime Correspondent
18 November 2003


One in nine police officers in England and Wales will be protecting
George Bush on his state visit to Britain, which begins today.

Ten thousand more police officers have been drafted in amid rising
concerns about the threat from terrorists and the scale of anti-war
demonstrations. That brings to 16,000 the number of policemen and
women who will be deployed during the four-day trip.

The bill will run to at least £7m, and the British taxpayer will pay
for it.

The Metropolitan Police announced that it was boosting the numbers of
officers on duty in London from 5,000 to 14,000.

The unprecedented security operation, which begins when the President
arrives in London this evening, is partly in response to new
intelligence that indicates violent anti-Bush demonstrators are
travelling from continental Europe to protest in the capital.

Police also believe the national rally through London on Thursday will
be far bigger than previously thought, with in excess of 100,000 now
expected. Anti-war protesters were yesterday given permission by the
Met to march down Whitehall, close to Parliament, having been earlier
denied that route by Scotland Yard.

Anti-terrorist specialists are also growing increasingly concerned
about possible al-Qa'ida attacks. This fear has been heightened by the
bombings of two synagogues in Istanbul, which killed at least 23
people and wounded 300 on Saturday.

As well as the massive police operation in London, around 1,300
officers will be on duty when President Bush has lunch with Tony Blair
and a group of residents in the Prime Minister's Sedgefield
constituency on Friday.

All police leave has been cancelled in Durham Constabulary and
officers from neighbouring forces will be drafted in as part of an
operation costing £1m. The cost of the Metropolitan Police's
deployments are expected to be in excess of £5m, while up to £1m is
being spent on extra security at ports and airports.

On the eve of the American President's state visit, Mr Blair said he
stood by the decision to invite Mr Bush to Britain.

Opposition to the President's visit appears to be growing daily.
Concerns about the scale and intensity of the anti-war demonstrations
prompted Scotland Yard to announce yesterday that they were almost
tripling the number of officers on duty over the four-day period. A
police source also disclosed that a number of anarchists and other
extremists were travelling by train and ferry to Britain and were
expected to take part in "ad hoc" violent demonstrations in London.
The troublemakers are not expected to take part in the official Stop
the War Coalition rally, which won permission yesterday to march past
Parliament, bearing right along Whitehall and congregating in
Trafalgar Square. At first the police had wanted to use an ancient law
to forbid marchers going past Parliament. Jeremy Corbyn, a Labour MP
who took part in the negotiations, said: "The march is going to be
huge, very well stewarded and very well ordered."

Sir John Stevens, the Commissioner of the Met, has promised not to
shield President Bush from"embarrassing" demonstrations. Deputy
Assistant Commissioner Andy Trotter, who is in charge of policing the
demonstrations, said the decision to increase the number of officers
on duty to 14,000 had been taken primarily because of security
concerns. "We're on a very high level of alert at the moment - we
obviously have the visit of the President coinciding with that and
we've got to make sure that London is kept safe and the visit goes
well.

"At the same time we're concerned about disorder, not only the
potential for disorder from the march itself but there will always be
other opportunities over the few days of his visit and we've got to
make sure we've got sufficient resources to deal with that." The
police also remained "very concerned" about the level of threat posed
by al-Qa'ida.

Mr Bush will be privately greeted by the Prince of Wales on his
arrival this evening and will be the guest of the Queen at a banquet
at Buckingham Palace on Wednesday.

On Thursday, the President will lay a wreath at the Tomb of the
Unknown Warrior before talks with the Mr Blair. He will also meet
relatives of British victims of the attacks on 11 September as well as
servicemen who fought in Iraq.



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Old November 18th, 2003, 11:36 PM
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Peter L. wrote:

"Whether he gets re-elected or not, he and his family will get
life time secret service protection, just like any other President or
ex-president."

That's not exactly true. The former prsidents and first ladies get secret
service protection for life. But, Bush's children will not.

-Scott


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Old November 19th, 2003, 12:50 AM
Peter L
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"Scott Hastings" wrote in message
...
Peter L. wrote:

"Whether he gets re-elected or not, he and his family will get
life time secret service protection, just like any other President or
ex-president."

That's not exactly true. The former prsidents and first ladies get secret
service protection for life. But, Bush's children will not.


You mean Chelsea is not getting secret service protection while she is in
England?


-Scott




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Old November 19th, 2003, 01:39 AM
Fly Guy
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Peter L wrote:

Americans have been paying for years (which will come to an end
Jan 20 / 05 if there is any shred of sanity left in the US)


No it won't. Whether he gets re-elected or not, he and his family
will get life time secret service protection, just like any other
President or ex-president. And whoever is elected will still get
the same level of protection.


So what you're saying is that all ex-presidents are accompanied by
hundreds of secret service agents regardless where they travel, and
that 10% of foreign police forces are similarly moblized when
ex-presidents travel to their country?

I think not.

There are 700 people traveling with the Bush to the UK. Some may be
press - but many are not. I suppose the same number also accompanies
Clinton? Carter? Bush-1?

I think not.

Of all the US presidents to be granted a Royal visit, W Bush is by far
the least deserving. What a joke.

All the security staff, the Royal family, the Queen, the Bush/Blair
administrations, and the people of London need this visit like they
need a hole in the head. What's the point of a visit if you're so hot
to handle you're treated like nuclear waste? Too much face to be lost
if they backed out. This was intended to be a celebration of the
Invasion of Iraq when this visit was planned. Some celebration.
Plans of mice and men - eh?

Is Bush wearing his cowboy boots with "God save the queen" on them
like he brought to dinner 10 years ago when daddy was hosting the
Queen in Texas?
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Old November 19th, 2003, 03:13 AM
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The dollars are not important. Whether it is the matinee-idol looks,
with the Bill Clinton morals of a John F. Kennedy, a victim of
assassination; the very unpopular war Presidents, Lyndon Johnson and
Richard Nixon, the clodhopper Gerald Ford; the moralist Jimmy Carter;
the Great Communicator Ronald Reagan, the stodgy George Bush, Sr., or
the cowboy son, George Bush, Jr., the amount of money taxpayers,
particularly American ones, spend to protect their President and family,
and those in line to the succession of the office, is immaterial to
having their heads blown apart on a crowded street in a busy
cosmopolitan city.

The President receives thousands of threats on his life a year, and the
ever-professional Secret Service spends millions tracking down each and
every lead and suspect. Their preparations for a routine visit to a
site, or city away from the White House are elaborate, and triple when
it is a state visit. They automatically enlist the assistance of local
law enforcement, and every Federal law enforcement agency, the FBI, DEA,
Customs, INS, Border Patrol, Army G-2, Navy NIS, CIA and the State
Department's overseas intelligence division, plus Interpol.

Unfortunately, America has a long history of assassination dating back
to an attempt on President Andrew Jackson's life. Lincoln, Garfield,
McKinley, Kennedy were all assassinated. President-elect Franklin
Roosevelt was shot at in Miami, and Chicago mayor Anton Cermak was
killed in this attempt.

Truman was attacked from the steps of Blair House, the President's
Official Foreign Dignitary residence in the 1950's by Puerto Rican
nationalists. Truman spent most of his Presidency there as the White
House was remodelled.

Martin Luther King, and Malcolm X, well known black leaders were
assassinated in public, along with campaigning politicians Robert
Kennedy, all of who died, and George Wallace, who was crippled. Gerald
Ford was shot at twice (saved once in San Francisco when a Vietnam
veteran in a wheelchair knocked the assassin's hand in the air as the
gun was aimed). The other attempt was done by Charles Manson groupie,
Lynette Squeaky Frome, and the .45 didn't fire because, fortunately, she
didn't know how to cock it.

Ronald Reagan was seriously shot exiting the Washington Hilton Hotel in
a flurry of gunshots which crippled a Secret Service agent, and James
Brady.

A private pilot flew a single engine airplane into one of the hundred
plus year old Andrew Jackson trees of the White House, depicted on the
back of the $20 bill, while another sprayed machine-gun bullets across
the window sills of the third story of the White House during Bill
Clinton's term, causing the U.S. Government to finally close that
section of Pennsylvania Avenue to vehicle traffic, and monitor Lafayette
Park with walking patrols, and video surveillance. Those bullets sprayed
Chelsea Clinton's bedroom window sill.

So, if you have any qualms about the cost to the taxpayer for personal
protection of the President, Vice President, President-elect,
politicians running for the Presidency, those in line for succession to
the office in case of assassination or death of the President, and his
later, retirement protection, just visit the National Archives on
Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington, D.C.

Ask the National Park Service for a booth, and request they play a copy
of the famous Abe Zapruder film of the actual assassination of John F.
Kennedy for you, it is public record, as are the autopsy photographs
now. Than, come back and tell me that the money to protect the President
and our government officials isn't well spent.

It doesn't make any difference who occupies that office, or whether it
is a good, or bad President, the U.S. Secret Service is impartial and
protects them, and so does foreign law enforcement services when the
President and his entourage travel. No country wants to have the world's
most powerful and influential leader assassinated on their turf - the
London Metro Police and British military will gladly bear the burden as
will the British taxpayers.

And England is used to violence too. How many of us, who have stood in
front of Buckingham Palace, and filmed the Changing-Of-The-Guard parade
and horse parade, remember the IRA pipe bomb that exploded right on that
street killing 9-soldiers, 20-horses and 2-civilians?

No matter what their policies are, American Presidents are usually quite
popular overseas, particularly in England. The British won't worry about
the money spent to protect George Bush, Jr., and neither should any
American. Just where do you think that 4th airliner was heading for,
35-minutes outside Washington, D.C. on September 11th, when it was
brought to the ground in a suicide attack by the heroic passengers?

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Old November 19th, 2003, 07:10 AM
Ronald Wilkerson
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Stan-Fan wrote:
every lead and suspect. Their preparations for a routine visit to a
site, or city away from the White House are elaborate, and triple when
it is a state visit.


The problems is that because of Bush Jr's foreign policy decisions, no visit
outside the USA can be considered "routine". Bush Jr may not want to admit
it, but the secret service knows how much NORMAL people hate him. And if you
have a crowds of 10,000 people peacefully protesting, it is much much much
harder to isolate the one person who has intentions of shooting the infamous
person down.

Why doesn't Bush Junior travel to Iraq to visit the land he acquired
illegally and greet his new citizens he is keeping under army control instead
of giving them promised freedoms and self determination etc etc ?


I heard the idiot speak on USA television 2 days ago. He wasn't refering to Mr
Bliar or "The prime minister", he was talking about "Bob". Good buddies or
not, the head of state of one nation does not refer to the head of state of
another nation by his first name during press conferences or public
interviews. By trying to flaunt that he has one friend left outside the USA,
Bush Jr also proved how inept he was at international relations.

Bush Jr should go hide in his ranch and stay quiet and not disturb other
countries. And I can't understand why Bliar accepted his visit. Remember that
Bush Jr is *only* concerned about his election camapaign from now on. While
Bliar can help Bush Jr by trying to show Bush Jr as having one ally in the
world, there is nothing that Bush Jr can do to help Bliar. As a matter of
fact, this visit will probably hurt Bliar by reminding poms that their prime
minister lied to them to justify his illegal invasion and participated in
that war against public opinion and against United Nations.


Remember that the Bush asshole invited himself to Buckhingham Palace and is
staying in the UK for 4 days. This is not your "routine" visit when he rarely
stays more than one night in one country.


They automatically enlist the assistance of local
law enforcement, and every Federal law enforcement agency, the FBI, DEA,
Customs, INS, Border Patrol, Army G-2, Navy NIS, CIA and the State
Department's overseas intelligence division, plus Interpol.


Interpol is not law enforcement agency. It is merely an information exchange
agency, and I am not sure that the secret service has a direct interface to
them. I suspect the official representative is the FBI.

Secondly, while the secret service has legal standing in the USA and can order
local police to obey the secret service's every whim, they have 0, zero, nil,
zilch legal standing outside the USA and have no god given right to carry
firearms and even less use them.

Should the secret service use a firearm ONCE during this visit, it will
probably force the Bliar government to resign and call for an immediate
election. The public outrage would otherwise be too much.


How come every other head of state, during a state visit, is treated by the
host and secured by the host, but US presidents are the only ones who refuse
this and insist on bringing their own army of people and equipment ? Bush Jr
was invited by the Queen to Buckhimgham Palace. This traditionally involves
being taken from the plane to the palace by horse drawn carriage. Bush Jr
refused (or probably the secret service) and he was instead flown in by
helicopter to avoid crowds.

What the **** is Bush doing in another country if he is so hated that he will
have to avoid being seen by anyone except 2 or 3 people ?

What the **** is a supposed friend doing to another friend by imposing not
only his presence, but his army of people and rules onto another country and
costing that country millions of dollars to protect its own citizens from
Bush'Jr secret service ?
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Old November 19th, 2003, 07:30 AM
Miguel Cruz
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Ronald Wilkerson wrote:
I heard the idiot speak on USA television 2 days ago. He wasn't refering
to Mr Bliar or "The prime minister", he was talking about "Bob". Good
buddies or not, the head of state of one nation does not refer to the head
of state of another nation by his first name during press conferences or
public interviews.


Well, evidently he didn't, as Blair's first name is Tony.

miguel
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Old November 19th, 2003, 03:52 PM
edward webb
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don't count on it.
Bushes popularity in the USA is soaring right now
he got rid of Saddam Hussein so he is #1 in our book

Bush will get re-elected in Nov 04

then after Bush.................Tom Ridge will be our President


"Meghan Powers" wrote in message
...

"The bill will run to at least £7m, and the British taxpayer will pay
for it."

For you Brits: Take heart. You're paying to protect him for only a
few days. Americans have been paying for years (which will come to an
end Jan 20 / 05 if there is any shred of sanity left in the US)
----------------------

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/pol...p?story=464815
President will be protected by 16,000 police officers
By Jason Bennetto, Crime Correspondent
18 November 2003


One in nine police officers in England and Wales will be protecting
George Bush on his state visit to Britain, which begins today.

Ten thousand more police officers have been drafted in amid rising
concerns about the threat from terrorists and the scale of anti-war
demonstrations. That brings to 16,000 the number of policemen and
women who will be deployed during the four-day trip.

The bill will run to at least £7m, and the British taxpayer will pay
for it.

The Metropolitan Police announced that it was boosting the numbers of
officers on duty in London from 5,000 to 14,000.

The unprecedented security operation, which begins when the President
arrives in London this evening, is partly in response to new
intelligence that indicates violent anti-Bush demonstrators are
travelling from continental Europe to protest in the capital.

Police also believe the national rally through London on Thursday will
be far bigger than previously thought, with in excess of 100,000 now
expected. Anti-war protesters were yesterday given permission by the
Met to march down Whitehall, close to Parliament, having been earlier
denied that route by Scotland Yard.

Anti-terrorist specialists are also growing increasingly concerned
about possible al-Qa'ida attacks. This fear has been heightened by the
bombings of two synagogues in Istanbul, which killed at least 23
people and wounded 300 on Saturday.

As well as the massive police operation in London, around 1,300
officers will be on duty when President Bush has lunch with Tony Blair
and a group of residents in the Prime Minister's Sedgefield
constituency on Friday.

All police leave has been cancelled in Durham Constabulary and
officers from neighbouring forces will be drafted in as part of an
operation costing £1m. The cost of the Metropolitan Police's
deployments are expected to be in excess of £5m, while up to £1m is
being spent on extra security at ports and airports.

On the eve of the American President's state visit, Mr Blair said he
stood by the decision to invite Mr Bush to Britain.

Opposition to the President's visit appears to be growing daily.
Concerns about the scale and intensity of the anti-war demonstrations
prompted Scotland Yard to announce yesterday that they were almost
tripling the number of officers on duty over the four-day period. A
police source also disclosed that a number of anarchists and other
extremists were travelling by train and ferry to Britain and were
expected to take part in "ad hoc" violent demonstrations in London.
The troublemakers are not expected to take part in the official Stop
the War Coalition rally, which won permission yesterday to march past
Parliament, bearing right along Whitehall and congregating in
Trafalgar Square. At first the police had wanted to use an ancient law
to forbid marchers going past Parliament. Jeremy Corbyn, a Labour MP
who took part in the negotiations, said: "The march is going to be
huge, very well stewarded and very well ordered."

Sir John Stevens, the Commissioner of the Met, has promised not to
shield President Bush from"embarrassing" demonstrations. Deputy
Assistant Commissioner Andy Trotter, who is in charge of policing the
demonstrations, said the decision to increase the number of officers
on duty to 14,000 had been taken primarily because of security
concerns. "We're on a very high level of alert at the moment - we
obviously have the visit of the President coinciding with that and
we've got to make sure that London is kept safe and the visit goes
well.

"At the same time we're concerned about disorder, not only the
potential for disorder from the march itself but there will always be
other opportunities over the few days of his visit and we've got to
make sure we've got sufficient resources to deal with that." The
police also remained "very concerned" about the level of threat posed
by al-Qa'ida.

Mr Bush will be privately greeted by the Prince of Wales on his
arrival this evening and will be the guest of the Queen at a banquet
at Buckingham Palace on Wednesday.

On Thursday, the President will lay a wreath at the Tomb of the
Unknown Warrior before talks with the Mr Blair. He will also meet
relatives of British victims of the attacks on 11 September as well as
servicemen who fought in Iraq.



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Old November 19th, 2003, 04:01 PM
Miss L. Toe
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"edward webb" wrote in message
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don't count on it.
Bushes popularity in the USA is soaring right now
he got rid of Saddam Hussein so he is #1 in our book


In case you hadn't noticed Mr Hussein and his gang are still around and very
active unless, of course, Merkin TV is telling you something different ??



 




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