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Old January 19th, 2008, 02:31 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Susette
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WOW maybe not to folks whom are not Travel Agents, But for the Travel
agents out there, Were you as shocked as I that VIcki Freed, a 29 year
Veteran of CARNIVAL is now with ROYAL CARIBBEAN? WOW what a turn
around this is!
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Old January 19th, 2008, 03:31 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 06:31:58 -0800 (PST), Susette
wrote:

WOW maybe not to folks whom are not Travel Agents, But for the Travel
agents out there, Were you as shocked as I that VIcki Freed, a 29 year
Veteran of CARNIVAL is now with ROYAL CARIBBEAN? WOW what a turn
around this is!


Hi Sue,

No, I was not surprised. When Vicki was passed over for the
presidency, it was a foregone conclusion that she would leave at the
first opportunity.

Best regards,
Ray
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Old January 19th, 2008, 04:03 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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"Susette" wrote in message
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WOW maybe not to folks whom are not Travel Agents, But for the Travel
agents out there, Were you as shocked as I that VIcki Freed, a 29 year
Veteran of CARNIVAL is now with ROYAL CARIBBEAN? WOW what a turn
around this is!


So are there now going to be more dancing/singing waiters on RCI every
night? Booths in the dining rooms? Etc.?

Hope not.

--Tom


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Old January 19th, 2008, 04:19 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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Hi Ray...

While I am not saying you are wrong, I have to wonder why she would
move sideways from a job where she was already so well respected and
comfortable for the same job at Royal Caribbean, unless RC is thinking
about making changes soon themselves and making her president.
Everyone believes that at RCI Fain runs everything, it would seem to
me she is leaving a place where she had autonomy and authority to go
to a place where she could be second-guessed and out-voted on a
regular basis - not only because the corporate personalities are
different, but also because she is walking into a system that is
pretty different and she didn't build it. Either they adapt to her or
the other way around, and I just don't see RC adapting that readily.

I just hope she didn't walk out in a huff on principle into a
situation where she is actually worse off. It is Carnival Corp that
has the reputation for lady CEOs (Cunard and Seabourn), not RCI - and
that does lend some credence to the theory she was passed over, but it
also says her chances of ever becoming a CEO were theoretically still
better by sticking to Carnival. She could have possibly done a move to
presidency of another of Carnival's Lines (they have more CEOs than
RCI does). Who knows, maybe Cahill will end up hating his new job -
doesn't appear likely, though.

It is a shock - as if Dick Chaney (sorry for the lack of a better
comparitive figure) not only quit as VP, but said he was going to the
Democrat Party at the same time.

In any case, this is all speculation which I am sure she and they
completely hashed over before this decision was made. All we can do is
wait and see what it means.
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Old January 19th, 2008, 10:31 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Susette
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I still stick by what I said, I was suprised she moved over to the
competition, Carnival has deeper pockets but RCCL is more innovative
if you ask me, and maybe she just needed change, with all the change
made at CCL maybe it was time. I think she will be good for RCCL
though, Lisa Bauer was not liked much by her peers is the drifts I
have been getting, and she is taking over that position as they moved
Lisa and now I see why. they may say no that it was something they
were doing but you just do not up and just leave, esp after all those
years. I think Carnival made a mistake losing her, Will there be
dancing waiters? I would like to see it again as the one that they do
on RCCL O solo Mio is tired now and should be retired. NO PLEASE no
booths in the dining room that is sooo tacky, its fine for Johnny
rockets or a diner but not a formal dining room

I had to read the letter from RCCL twice and the letter that Carnival
sent agent twice to see if I was really seeing what I was seeing. IS
Vickys Blog up still?

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Old January 20th, 2008, 01:00 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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Well, when I got the E-Mail my first thought was that the new management was
cleaning house and she had been fired. It makes sense that if she told them she
was taking a position elsewhere in the industry that they would walk her out the
door.

She should have gone to NCL, they are going to need some help now that AA is
back ...........

Cal Ford
Lido Deck Cruises



In article ,
Susette says...

WOW maybe not to folks whom are not Travel Agents, But for the Travel
agents out there, Were you as shocked as I that VIcki Freed, a 29 year
Veteran of CARNIVAL is now with ROYAL CARIBBEAN? WOW what a turn
around this is!


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Old January 20th, 2008, 02:45 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Tom K
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"Cal Ford" wrote in message
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Well, when I got the E-Mail my first thought was that the new management
was
cleaning house and she had been fired. It makes sense that if she told
them she
was taking a position elsewhere in the industry that they would walk her
out the
door.

She should have gone to NCL, they are going to need some help now that AA
is
back ...........


Those kinds of companies that now own NCL are famous for cutting costs,
tighter, and tighter and tighter... And the places you cut costs on a cruise
are in food and service. They can't cut fuel costs, and the ships are
already built... so go with people and food if you want to cut.

So, why would she want to get involved with that kind of situation???

--Tom


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Old January 20th, 2008, 01:48 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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On Jan 19, 9:45 pm, "Tom K" wrote:
"Cal Ford" wrote in message

...

Well, when I got the E-Mail my first thought was that the new management
was
cleaning house and she had been fired. It makes sense that if she told
them she
was taking a position elsewhere in the industry that they would walk her
out the
door.


She should have gone to NCL, they are going to need some help now that AA
is
back ...........


Those kinds of companies that now own NCL are famous for cutting costs,
tighter, and tighter and tighter... And the places you cut costs on a cruise
are in food and service. They can't cut fuel costs, and the ships are
already built... so go with people and food if you want to cut.

So, why would she want to get involved with that kind of situation???

--Tom


Tom"s right .Where else can you cut !! Just hope the food on RCCI at
lest stays the same ,It did get better !!
Ken G............
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Old January 20th, 2008, 05:26 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Joseph Coulter[_3_]
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Lee wrote in newslq6p3tc7him3ml19ve5lhljm235cv81s2@
4ax.com:

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 21:45:00 -0500, "Tom K"
wrote:

are in food and service. They can't cut fuel costs, and the ships are


Sure you can -- reduce port time, allowing ships to cruise more slowly
-- saving fuel. Or, simply eliminate stops/distance from itinerary.


This is how MSC does it with their European destinations, time enough to
get a picture from the deck and take a shore excursion, but not enough
to dare venture out on your own.

--
Joseph Coulter, cruises and vacations
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