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Birds cause emergency landings, aborted takeoffs
In message , at 08:55:04 on Sun, 1
Feb 2009, Graeme Wall remarked: Yet its an idea that keeps recurring, I recall Harold Wislon's lot proposing something similar in the 60's Maplin Sands wasn't it, IIRC the electronics shops were named after it. Yes, they thought the name would turn out to have "prestige". And they used a 'Concorde' graphic in their advertising. But the idea for the current chain of shops came much much later; originally they were primarily a mail-order outfit with two small shops to the usual pattern: one associated with the mail order business in Southend and another in London to mop up the established "Edgware Rd" trade. Talking of which, it's almost a year to the day that Tandy sold its UK chain of almost 300 shops to Carphone Warehouse, having thrown in the towel on the general purpose electronics trade, which Maplin is now steadily expanding back into. Although I have to say that Maplin stores always look to me like they are halfway through the sort of stock-check and clearance that precedes a closing down sale. Or maybe that's a deliberate thing. -- Roland Perry |
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"Roland Perry" wrote in message ... Although I have to say that Maplin stores always look to me like they are halfway through the sort of stock-check and clearance that precedes a closing down sale. Or maybe that's a deliberate thing. And if you want to look at the new stuff you have to ask for a look because it's in the back being played with by the nerds at tea break time. -- William Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. |
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Birds cause emergency landings, aborted takeoffs
On 2009-02-01 08:55:04 +0000, Graeme Wall said:
In message "Keith Willshaw" wrote: "Andrew Robert Breen" wrote in message ... In article , Keith Willshaw wrote: "Lord Truscott of Brownenvelope" wrote in message ... http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/8336596 Birds cause emergency landings, aborted takeoffs No **** sherlock Well, it's one bit of evidence to suggest that Boris the Idiot's idea of an airport in the Thames Estuary is a really, /really/ stupid one. As we've seen in the last couple of weeks, ingestion of large members of the order anatidae are not compatible with optimal working of jet engines... Yet its an idea that keeps recurring, I recall Harold Wislon's lot proposing something similar in the 60's Maplin Sands wasn't it, IIRC the electronics shops were named after it. An airport in that area was originally proposed under the name of 'Foulness', but TPTB (having forgotten - or having never learnt - the derivation of the word from an older English meaning 'The promontory of the birds') thought that the name had negative connotations and so changed it to the higher class 'Maplin Sands'. If I remember correctly, there were four sites being proposed in the 60s/70s for a new airport for London: Foulness/Maplin; Stansted; Wing/Cublington and the fourth was, I think, Greenham Common near Newbury. Can someone in this NG remind me? Was Greenham Common ever proposed as a site or am I mixing it up with something else? -- Robert |
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On Feb 1, 6:41*pm, Robert wrote:
On 2009-02-01 08:55:04 +0000, Graeme Wall said: In message * * * * * "Keith Willshaw" wrote: "Andrew Robert Breen" wrote in message ... In article , Keith Willshaw wrote: "Lord Truscott of Brownenvelope" wrote in message ... http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/8336596 Birds cause emergency landings, aborted takeoffs No **** sherlock Well, it's one bit of evidence to suggest that Boris the Idiot's idea of an airport in the Thames Estuary is a really, /really/ stupid one. As we've seen in the last couple of weeks, ingestion of large members of the order anatidae are not compatible with optimal working of jet engines.... Yet its an idea that keeps recurring, I recall Harold Wislon's lot proposing something similar in the 60's Maplin Sands wasn't it, IIRC the electronics shops were named after it. An airport in that area was originally proposed under the name of 'Foulness', but TPTB (having forgotten - or having never learnt - the derivation of the word from an older English meaning 'The promontory of the birds') thought that the name had negative connotations and so changed it to the higher class 'Maplin Sands'. If I remember correctly, there were four sites being proposed in the 60s/70s for a new airport for London: Foulness/Maplin; Stansted; Wing/Cublington and the fourth was, I think, Greenham Common near Newbury. Can someone in this NG remind me? Was Greenham Common ever proposed as a site or am I mixing it up with something else? -- Robert Northolt could be the 3rd runway...... |
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In message 2009020117410016807-coppercapped@gmailcom, at 17:41:00 on
Sun, 1 Feb 2009, Robert remarked: If I remember correctly, there were four sites being proposed in the 60s/70s for a new airport for London: Foulness/Maplin; Stansted; Wing/Cublington and the fourth was, I think, Greenham Common near Newbury. Can someone in this NG remind me? Was Greenham Common ever proposed as a site or am I mixing it up with something else? I'm sure there were just the first three. Greenham Common was where the USA deployed their cruise missiles (which we don't hear very much about any more) and was therefore a place of much protest (but not about 3rd London airports). -- Roland Perry |
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In message 2009020117410016807-coppercapped@gmailcom
Robert wrote: On 2009-02-01 08:55:04 +0000, Graeme Wall said: In message "Keith Willshaw" wrote: "Andrew Robert Breen" wrote in message ... In article , Keith Willshaw wrote: "Lord Truscott of Brownenvelope" wrote in message ... http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/8336596 Birds cause emergency landings, aborted takeoffs No **** sherlock Well, it's one bit of evidence to suggest that Boris the Idiot's idea of an airport in the Thames Estuary is a really, /really/ stupid one. As we've seen in the last couple of weeks, ingestion of large members of the order anatidae are not compatible with optimal working of jet engines... Yet its an idea that keeps recurring, I recall Harold Wislon's lot proposing something similar in the 60's Maplin Sands wasn't it, IIRC the electronics shops were named after it. An airport in that area was originally proposed under the name of 'Foulness', but TPTB (having forgotten - or having never learnt - the derivation of the word from an older English meaning 'The promontory of the birds') thought that the name had negative connotations and so changed it to the higher class 'Maplin Sands'. If I remember correctly, there were four sites being proposed in the 60s/70s for a new airport for London: Foulness/Maplin; Stansted; Wing/Cublington and the fourth was, I think, Greenham Common near Newbury. Can someone in this NG remind me? Was Greenham Common ever proposed as a site or am I mixing it up with something else? -- Graeme Wall This address is not read, substitute trains for rail. Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html |
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Birds cause emergency landings, aborted takeoffs
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Roland Perry wrote: In message 2009020117410016807-coppercapped@gmailcom, at 17:41:00 on Sun, 1 Feb 2009, Robert remarked: If I remember correctly, there were four sites being proposed in the 60s/70s for a new airport for London: Foulness/Maplin; Stansted; Wing/Cublington and the fourth was, I think, Greenham Common near Newbury. Can someone in this NG remind me? Was Greenham Common ever proposed as a site or am I mixing it up with something else? I'm sure there were just the first three. Greenham Common was where the USA deployed their cruise missiles (which we don't hear very much about any more) and was therefore a place of much protest (but not about 3rd London airports). The cruise missiles didn't arrive until the early 80s[1]. For a time Greenham appears to have been the designated emergency runway for Heathrow as it had the longest runway in the south of England. [1] I filmed the first one arriving, many protests, and the last one departing. -- Graeme Wall This address is not read, substitute trains for rail. Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html |
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In message , at 20:47:24 on Sun, 1
Feb 2009, Graeme Wall remarked: If I remember correctly, there were four sites being proposed in the 60s/70s for a new airport for London: Foulness/Maplin; Stansted; Wing/Cublington and the fourth was, I think, Greenham Common near Newbury. Can someone in this NG remind me? Was Greenham Common ever proposed as a site or am I mixing it up with something else? I'm sure there were just the first three. Greenham Common was where the USA deployed their cruise missiles (which we don't hear very much about any more) and was therefore a place of much protest (but not about 3rd London airports). For a time Greenham appears to have been the designated emergency runway for Heathrow as it had the longest runway in the south of England. That's where the "mixing up" arises I expect. -- Roland Perry |
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In message
Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 20:47:24 on Sun, 1 Feb 2009, Graeme Wall remarked: If I remember correctly, there were four sites being proposed in the 60s/70s for a new airport for London: Foulness/Maplin; Stansted; Wing/Cublington and the fourth was, I think, Greenham Common near Newbury. Can someone in this NG remind me? Was Greenham Common ever proposed as a site or am I mixing it up with something else? I'm sure there were just the first three. Greenham Common was where the USA deployed their cruise missiles (which we don't hear very much about any more) and was therefore a place of much protest (but not about 3rd London airports). For a time Greenham appears to have been the designated emergency runway for Heathrow as it had the longest runway in the south of England. That's where the "mixing up" arises I expect. I believe Newbury council were keen on the place being adopted as an airport at one time, but there are apparently covenants on the land that prevent such usage. The military airfield was sanctioned under wartime emergency powers on the understanding that when the military ceased to use it it would revert to common land. -- Graeme Wall This address is not read, substitute trains for rail. Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html |
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Birds cause emergency landings, aborted takeoffs
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, Lord Truscott of Brownenvelope wrote: Former NTSB Chairman Jim Hall said the safety board has been warning for decades that birds "are a significant safety problem." ... Sounds like aircraft are a significant safety problem for birds. Sam |
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