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  #21  
Old April 8th, 2008, 09:00 AM posted to alt.travel.uk.air,rec.travel.europe
Peter Lynch
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On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 07:42:34 +0100, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 04:51:20 on
Tue, 8 Apr 2008, Mxsmanic remarked:
they're ****. Just a set of $10 headphones with an extra twenty cents worth
of foam on each side. The impressive part about bose company is that they
sell them for hundreds of dollars. There's one born every minute.


You're saying that they sell noise-cancelling headphones that don't actually
contain any form of active noise cancellation?


Active noise cancellation is rubbish too. I bought a set, and while they
did reduce the background "throbbing" noise from the engines slightly,
they don't have any effect on "random" noises like people talking or
announcements (the latter a particular problem on some trains, rather
than planes).


I find in-ear phones very efective (yes, I know some people don't like
them - you can't please everyone). I have a pair of ER-6i's[1] and find they
cut out almost all the noise around me. You still get vibration from coming
up through the seat, and I wouldn't recommend eating while wearing them
(the sound's disgusting!) but the lower noise floor means you don't risk
deafening yourself since you can keep the volume turned down low and still
hear all the music.
Only problem is, you miss all the in-flight anouncements. One day I'll
look up and be the only person left in an abandoned plane :-)

[1] Other brands are available

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  #22  
Old April 8th, 2008, 09:32 AM posted to alt.travel.uk.air,rec.travel.europe
KGB
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On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 04:51:20 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:

AZ Nomad writes:

they're ****. Just a set of $10 headphones with an extra twenty cents worth
of foam on each side. The impressive part about bose company is that they
sell them for hundreds of dollars. There's one born every minute.


You're saying that they sell noise-cancelling headphones that don't actually
contain any form of active noise cancellation?


Hi

Actually I have a pair with no active noise cancellation, which work
surprisingly well for the price (a fraction of the cost of Bose - and
a lot more compact).

Basically, they are a pair of earplugs (they block the ear channel
completely) with speakers down the middle. Whilst probably not Hi-Fi,
the sound quality is amazingly good.

I recently used them on a flight from Heathrow to Buenos Aires (and
back) and, whilst not being perfect, I was favourably impressed with
how much extraneous noise they cut out. Certainly with even quiet
music at low volume on my MP3 player, they cut out virtually all cabin
noise.

They even have an adaptor plug to fit the phone socket on the seat
arm, but I didn't actually try that so cannot comment on how effective
that was.


Regards
KGB

  #23  
Old April 8th, 2008, 09:39 AM posted to alt.travel.uk.air,rec.travel.europe
JohnT[_3_]
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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JohnT writes:

In the UK/Europe?


The FAA and FCC have jurisdiction only in the U.S.



Precisely. You posted a claim of FAA/FCC jurisdiction to a UK Newsgroup.
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  #24  
Old April 8th, 2008, 10:22 AM posted to alt.travel.uk.air,rec.travel.europe
William Black
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
AZ Nomad writes:

they're ****. Just a set of $10 headphones with an extra twenty cents
worth
of foam on each side. The impressive part about bose company is that
they
sell them for hundreds of dollars. There's one born every minute.


You're saying that they sell noise-cancelling headphones that don't
actually
contain any form of active noise cancellation?


Active noise cancelling is rubbish.

Passive noise cancelling is as effective.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.



  #25  
Old April 8th, 2008, 10:23 AM posted to alt.travel.uk.air,rec.travel.europe
William Black
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
AZ Nomad writes:

they're ****. Just a set of $10 headphones with an extra twenty cents
worth
of foam on each side. The impressive part about bose company is that
they
sell them for hundreds of dollars. There's one born every minute.


You're saying that they sell noise-cancelling headphones that don't
actually
contain any form of active noise cancellation?


Lots of people do.

Most mobile phones have passive noise cancelling.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.



  #26  
Old April 8th, 2008, 10:25 AM posted to alt.travel.uk.air,rec.travel.europe
William Black
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"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 08:53:24
on Tue, 8 Apr 2008, Erick T. Barkhuis -o-m
remarked:
What will make me happy is [...] the ability to use my
camera-phone to take pictures out of the window.


Wouldn't any ol' camera do?


Travelling by plane is bad enough without carrying an excessive number of
"gadgets", when you have one already.


You put a camera in your hold baggage?

How many have you had stolen this year?

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.



  #27  
Old April 8th, 2008, 10:48 AM posted to alt.travel.uk.air,rec.travel.europe
Roland Perry[_1_]
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In message , at 08:00:26 on Tue, 8 Apr
2008, Peter Lynch remarked:
Active noise cancellation is rubbish too. I bought a set, and while they
did reduce the background "throbbing" noise from the engines slightly,
they don't have any effect on "random" noises like people talking or
announcements (the latter a particular problem on some trains, rather
than planes).


I find in-ear phones very efective (yes, I know some people don't like
them - you can't please everyone). I have a pair of ER-6i's[1]


The ones I had were in-ear. Panasonic RP-HC50. Rubbish.

Like the reviewer here, I paid about £40 which wasn't cheap. He also
reports they only work for constant humming, not incidental noises.

http://www.ciao.co.uk/Panasonic_RPHC50__Review_5490515

and find they
cut out almost all the noise around me. You still get vibration from coming
up through the seat, and I wouldn't recommend eating while wearing them
(the sound's disgusting!) but the lower noise floor means you don't risk
deafening yourself since you can keep the volume turned down low and still
hear all the music.


--
Roland Perry
  #28  
Old April 8th, 2008, 10:50 AM posted to alt.travel.uk.air,rec.travel.europe
Roland Perry[_1_]
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In message , at 10:25:05 on Tue,
8 Apr 2008, William Black remarked:
What will make me happy is [...] the ability to use my
camera-phone to take pictures out of the window.

Wouldn't any ol' camera do?


Travelling by plane is bad enough without carrying an excessive number of
"gadgets", when you have one already.


You put a camera in your hold baggage?


No, I don't take a separate camera because I have camera-phone.

How many have you had stolen this year?


Do keep up - I'm proposing taking the photos out of the *cabin* window.
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Roland Perry
  #29  
Old April 8th, 2008, 12:29 PM posted to alt.travel.uk.air,rec.travel.europe
tim \(not at home\)
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"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 08:00:26 on Tue, 8 Apr
2008, Peter Lynch remarked:
Active noise cancellation is rubbish too. I bought a set, and while they
did reduce the background "throbbing" noise from the engines slightly,
they don't have any effect on "random" noises like people talking or
announcements (the latter a particular problem on some trains, rather
than planes).


I find in-ear phones very efective (yes, I know some people don't like
them - you can't please everyone). I have a pair of ER-6i's[1]


The ones I had were in-ear. Panasonic RP-HC50. Rubbish.

Like the reviewer here, I paid about £40 which wasn't cheap.


Don't the Bose ones have an extra zero on the price.

Perhaps that makes them wok better

tim


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Old April 8th, 2008, 12:35 PM posted to alt.travel.uk.air,rec.travel.europe
Roland Perry[_1_]
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In message , at 12:29:38 on Tue, 8
Apr 2008, "tim (not at home)" remarked:
The ones I had were in-ear. Panasonic RP-HC50. Rubbish.

Like the reviewer here, I paid about £40 which wasn't cheap.


Don't the Bose ones have an extra zero on the price.

Perhaps that makes them wok better


A Lear Jet probably "works better" too. I don't have that kind of money.
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