Austrian toilet information

You are a patronising git.

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Tim.

If the human brain were simple enough that we could understand it, we would
be so simple that we couldn't.

..5 Euros semms to be the going rate.

The toilet at the U-bahn under the Vienna opera comes with Straus
music playing
at no extra charge for the .5 Euro.

I forgot to put small change for toilets in my tuxedo pants when we
went to the concert in Vienna and had only big bill Euros. Put a US
dollar in the dish for the lady.

She said "thank you very much" in pretty good English. As I stood in
the area waiting for my wife, I noticed this cleaning lady looked
unusually young and pretty but so sad. I thought to myself that people
also can fall through the cracks even in a collectivist socialized
state propagandized as utopia by socialists as evidenced by this
young lady.I also noticed occasional beggars on the streets of Vienna
which reinforces my opinion that a "perfect society" is purely
idealistic and unattainable.

Tim Challenger "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" wrote:

You are a patronising git.

Are you sure that you are not being kind? You forgot to mention
ignorant and intolerant.

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PB
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PJ O'Donovan schrieb:

.5 Euros semms to be the going rate.

The toilet at the U-bahn under the Vienna opera comes with Straus
music playing
at no extra charge for the .5 Euro.

I forgot to put small change for toilets in my tuxedo pants when we
went to the concert in Vienna and had only big bill Euros. Put a US
dollar in the dish for the lady.

She said "thank you very much" in pretty good English. As I stood in
the area waiting for my wife, I noticed this cleaning lady looked
unusually young and pretty but so sad. I thought to myself that people
also can fall through the cracks even in a collectivist socialized
state propagandized as utopia by socialists as evidenced by this
young lady.I also noticed occasional beggars on the streets of Vienna
which reinforces my opinion that a "perfect society" is purely
idealistic and unattainable.

Had you written "I thought to myself that people also can fall through
the cracks even in an ultraconservative nationalistic state
propagandized as utopia by right-wing extremists as evidenced by this
young lady", it would have been equally as absurd, but at least closer
to the reality of contemporary Austrian politics.

T.

lol, he thinks Austria is socialist. National-Socialist yes.

"PJ O'Donovan" wrote in message om...
.5 Euros semms to be the going rate.

The toilet at the U-bahn under the Vienna opera comes with Straus
music playing
at no extra charge for the .5 Euro.

I forgot to put small change for toilets in my tuxedo pants when we
went to the concert in Vienna and had only big bill Euros. Put a US
dollar in the dish for the lady.

She said "thank you very much" in pretty good English. As I stood in
the area waiting for my wife, I noticed this cleaning lady looked
unusually young and pretty but so sad. I thought to myself that people
also can fall through the cracks even in a collectivist socialized
state propagandized as utopia by socialists as evidenced by this
young lady.I also noticed occasional beggars on the streets of Vienna
which reinforces my opinion that a "perfect society" is purely
idealistic and unattainable.

Since when was Austria a collectivised socialist state?

On 8 Jan 2004 07:10:00 -0800, (PJ O'Donovan) wrote:

unusually young and pretty but so sad. I thought to myself that people
also can fall through the cracks even in a collectivist socialized
state propagandized as utopia by socialists as evidenced by this
young lady.I also noticed occasional beggars on the streets of Vienna
which reinforces my opinion that a "perfect society" is purely
idealistic and unattainable.

PJ O'Donovan wrote:

.5 Euros semms to be the going rate.

The toilet at the U-bahn under the Vienna opera comes with Straus
music playing
at no extra charge for the .5 Euro.

I forgot to put small change for toilets in my tuxedo pants when we
went to the concert in Vienna and had only big bill Euros. Put a US
dollar in the dish for the lady.

She said "thank you very much" in pretty good English.

I'll just BET she did! (Most people leave only small change - like
twenty cents - even given the fact your US dollar was worth only about
..75 euro, you were overtipping.)

As I stood in
the area waiting for my wife, I noticed this cleaning lady looked
unusually young and pretty but so sad. I thought to myself that people
also can fall through the cracks even in a collectivist socialized
state propagandized as utopia by socialists as evidenced by this
young lady.

Are you sure she was Austrian? Most of the chambermaids at my hotel
were from eastern Europe, and spoke little more German than I did.
People who do that sort of work in America are generally foreign-born
with little command of the language, too - why would you think it was
any different in Austria?

I also noticed occasional beggars on the streets of Vienna
which reinforces my opinion that a "perfect society" is purely
idealistic and unattainable.

How did their numbers compare to the "street people" in any large U.S.
city? I spent more time in my hotel room than I'd intended, due to a
case of the flu, but I don't recall encountering ANY "beggars" this
trip, even though my hotel was more or less directly across the street
from the Franz-Josefs-Bahnhoff where one might expect to see them in
quantity. (My last time in Vienna was during the Kosovo conflict, when
most adjacent countries were full of refugees, so the situation was
different, then.)

Padraig Breathnach wrote:

Tim Challenger "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" wrote:

You are a patronising git.

Are you sure that you are not being kind? You forgot to mention
ignorant and intolerant.

....And obviously inexperienced where international travel is concerned.



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On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 18:41:53 +0100, Thomas Peel wrote:

PJ O'Donovan schrieb:

.5 Euros semms to be the going rate.

The toilet at the U-bahn under the Vienna opera comes with Straus
music playing
at no extra charge for the .5 Euro.

I forgot to put small change for toilets in my tuxedo pants when we
went to the concert in Vienna and had only big bill Euros. Put a US
dollar in the dish for the lady.

She said "thank you very much" in pretty good English. As I stood in
the area waiting for my wife, I noticed this cleaning lady looked
unusually young and pretty but so sad. I thought to myself that people
also can fall through the cracks even in a collectivist socialized
state propagandized as utopia by socialists as evidenced by this
young lady.I also noticed occasional beggars on the streets of Vienna
which reinforces my opinion that a "perfect society" is purely
idealistic and unattainable.

Had you written "I thought to myself that people also can fall through
the cracks even in an ultraconservative nationalistic state
propagandized as utopia by right-wing extremists as evidenced by this
young lady", it would have been equally as absurd, but at least closer
to the reality of contemporary Austrian politics.

T.

I dunno if that's really fair. The Austrian social-security and medical
system is fairly good. On the whole.
--
Tim.

If the human brain were simple enough that we could understand it, we would
be so simple that we couldn't.

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 19:00:03 GMT, P J Wallace wrote:

Since when was Austria a collectivised socialist state?

On 8 Jan 2004 07:10:00 -0800, (PJ O'Donovan) wrote:

unusually young and pretty but so sad. I thought to myself that people
also can fall through the cracks even in a collectivist socialized
state propagandized as utopia by socialists as evidenced by this
young lady.I also noticed occasional beggars on the streets of Vienna
which reinforces my opinion that a "perfect society" is purely
idealistic and unattainable.

He's one of those worldly-wise 'murcans who think that everywhere outside
the USofA is part of the USSR.
--
Tim.

If the human brain were simple enough that we could understand it, we would
be so simple that we couldn't.