Americans and their treatment of Canadians

Eric and Jamie Simmons wrote:

"America the beautiful"
dom_Fries wrote in
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But you're assuming that that story is true.

--
Chris F
Long Island, USA.


Apparently you live UNDER Long Island.....do you not watch the news?

Under?

--
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Ken Pisichko wrote:

America the beautiful wrote:


Ken Pisichko wrote:


Where do you get your information from?

Why the media of course!

The average Canadian resident also gets information solely from the media.

Bias aside, what else do you suggest be done with this story that has been in the
Canadian media for some time and continues to be discussed by Canadian media?

The US media is also full of information - some correct and some just plain
wrong!! I still have the letter i e-mailed to the NY Times about some WRONG
information about Canadian soldiers going to Haiti.

I heard of the possibility of Canada sending some peace keepers.



Too bad you didn't hear that they were there pretty well from day 1. Forget your news
sources - they are obviously incorrect. Possibility? HAH! Look at the facts man.

What facts?

Pure Bull Roar, but it was
published on their web site. In spite of the news editor never acknowledging the
mistake to me the article was pulled within a couple of hours on the web site. It
later reappeared with corrections - BUT no acknowledgment of their error.

Then of course there was all that false information about the 9/11 terrorists
entering the USA through Canada.

Whoa! Hold on there. We never said the 9/11 terrorists entering the USA
through Canada, we said it was a *possibility* and we need tighter
controls at the border. Terrorists did try to enter Washington State to
dirty bomb the place, if you remember.



Didn't our police forces inform your police forces before they entered Washington?

Did they?

And it is also seems that it is becoming more evident and true that the shotgun
approach is being used by folks like yourself to show "knowledge" when in fact all you
are doing is hedging your bets about what may or may not happen.

Why do you left wingers always assume you know the "facts"? But yet the
opposite is usually true.

More nonsense from "hallowed" news sources. I
gave "packets" of information to my US friends in both NOrth Dakota and Minnesota
giving actual textual transcriptions from John Ashcroft and published articles
from Canadian and US print sources stating those terrorists from those air
crashes came into the USA directly into the USA from offshore, and NOT via
Canada.

Get a grip on suggestions that the USA can do nothing wrong to citizens of other
countries.

Maybe you should get a grip on suggestions that the USA is
indiscriminately killing innocent women and children. IF a terrorist
blows up a bus but says WE did, you are the type to publish it on Usenet
as fact.


And you have evidence of your allegations?

But it's your allegations.

Or just another shotgun approach? You
realize that US citizens have been terrorists too?

Of course.

Can't you remember one of your own
citizens being put to death for the Oklahoma bombing?

Sure.

So if you are a US citizen, you are obviously that "type" too - the terrorist type I
mean.

How so? I thought you proclaim to be the Guru of "facts".

Get a grip on yourself before you do something really silly and regrettable.

Such as?

Most folks in this world want to live in peace, and not be bothered by
"rogue acts" of government.

Back to my question? You intimate the story is false. And your source is....?

My common knowledge that terrorist lie through their teeth leads me to
believe that its most likely bull**** - especially when presented from a
left wing Newsgroup Canadian nutcase. Other then your apparent
gullibleness to any story of American war controversy, what makes you
think the source is correct? After all, you claim to be the type to dig
into the dirt of the story, so surly you must be able to do some
investigative reporting. As we say in the States "Chop chop".



Like I said, don't be too hasty in your judgment.

But you took what you read as fact simply because it was anti-American.

Are you suggesting that being "left
wing" is wrong?

Well....

How can that be? Your country has legislation that allows freedom of
expression and thought - of have you forgotten?

Of course we have freedom of expression, but that doesn't mean your
expressions are not retarded.

My, my, but aren't you the pious one today!

In what way?

What are your qualifications and authority
to judge others?

The same as yours.

You are sounding more and more like a troll every sentence. Get a
grip.

As for correctness, even history gets revised. For a better handle on what is happening
don't just listen to and read the US media stuff. Read "alien" materials - BBC,

I do mostly.

CBC,

Sometimes but kinda boring. (no offense)

ABC web sites,

American.

British newspapers on line, etc.

Everyday.

Get the picture.

Yeah, I get the picture you don't know what you are talking about.

In 1971 when traveling in Viet Nam I listened to the Canadian soldiers and Indian (I
think it was) who were on one of the United Nations "peacekeeping" groups. They told me
of stuff and happenings from the US and VC sides that made me really shake my heads.
That stuff never ever appeared in the news. Then of course there was the Pakistani and
Indian versions of the same battles during the "Bangladesh war of Independence - 1971)

Why do you left wing nutcases always compare military operation with
Nam? Get over it - Nam was a long time ago. You're safe now.

I view ALL news sources with some skepticism - including Canadian news sources.

Then what about the one you originally posted in this thread?

I
believe it is healthier - but that is just my opinion.


--
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Abdul Towelhead wrote:

No one cares about the "problem" that you made up and told to some gullible
anti-American journalist.

He acts as though anybody should give a ****.

"Xomicron" wrote in message
news:uWkjc.910$5a.354@okepread03...

They Put a Bag Over My Head & Flew Me To Syria for Torture and
Interrogation

I am here today to tell the people of Canada what has happened to me.




--
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Bradly Wiebe wrote in message ...
The US seems to feel that nobody is deserving of rights and freedoms except
its own citizens.

While there is absolutely no excuse for the way my fellow Canadian was
treated, one can in a way see how and why he was treated the way he was.
The US was in a state of panic. They were terrified that another
terroristic plot was going to happen. In short, I understand your fears,
but do your homework.

I have a gut feeling that myself, being middle aged white male, born and
raised my whole life in Canada, would never have been subjected to the same
treatment as Maher was. Americans should be ashamed of that, and I'm sure
that many of them are.

if you have been following the story in Canada, you know that the US
was acting on information received from the RCMP and CSIS. While it
is unfortunate that this incident happened, I think our government is
as much to blame as the Americans.

Jane

America the beautiful wrote:

Bradly Wiebe wrote:
The US seems to feel that nobody is deserving of rights and freedoms except
its own citizens.

While there is absolutely no excuse for the way my fellow Canadian was
treated, one can in a way see how and why he was treated the way he was.
The US was in a state of panic. They were terrified that another
terroristic plot was going to happen. In short, I understand your fears,
but do your homework.

I have a gut feeling that myself, being middle aged white male, born and
raised my whole life in Canada, would never have been subjected to the same
treatment as Maher was. Americans should be ashamed of that, and I'm sure
that many of them are.

But you're assuming that that story is true.


It is true Chris, It's big news in Canada. It likely wasn't reported much in the
US.


--
Chris F
Long Island, USA.

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Jane wrote:

Bradly Wiebe wrote in message ...
The US seems to feel that nobody is deserving of rights and freedoms except
its own citizens.

While there is absolutely no excuse for the way my fellow Canadian was
treated, one can in a way see how and why he was treated the way he was.
The US was in a state of panic. They were terrified that another
terroristic plot was going to happen. In short, I understand your fears,
but do your homework.

I have a gut feeling that myself, being middle aged white male, born and
raised my whole life in Canada, would never have been subjected to the same
treatment as Maher was. Americans should be ashamed of that, and I'm sure
that many of them are.

if you have been following the story in Canada, you know that the US
was acting on information received from the RCMP and CSIS. While it
is unfortunate that this incident happened, I think our government is
as much to blame as the Americans.

I agree. The US was acting on BOTH information gathered from Canada and its own.



Jane

OK Chris, lets say for the sake of argument you are full of your "correct" B.S.

Just because others disagree with Americans does not mean they are anti-American.

If you are so concerned that I am anti-American alert the US border control agencies. But be
quick about it, because you never know what I might do when I go into North Dakota and
Minnesota in a couple of weeks. Heck, I might even "shoot da ****" with some of the local
food producers or talk with the local Post Master while getting mail or sending mail. Heck, I
could even spend some US currency that is quite useless here in Canada and in many other
countries of this earth - gotta convert it into useable currency when out of the USA.

Also do some reading and become less self centered - offshore the ABC refers to the
Australian Broadcasting Corporation. Ignorant and self centered you MUST b!. No, the ABC in
the United States of America is "American" as you put it. Only an ignorant fool would think
that the "ABC" in a string of "alien" news sources (aka "BBC, CBC, ABC web sites") is
American.

Enjoy your fantasy and your defense of the indefensible position you have. After all, you
have that FREEDOM, don't you?

By the way, if Canadians are so anti-American why does Canada sell you much of the
electricity that is used in the USA (and at the same time puts up with the absolute American
crap stating that Canada caused the US power outage) and much of the natural gas and crude
oil also used in the US? You really have some strange notions don't you? Are you sure you
aren't putting us on?

By the way, why are you cross posting? Not enough of an audience? Sounds like one paranoid
hombre to me.

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America the beautiful wrote:

much nonsense....

What facts?

And you have evidence of your allegations?

But it's your allegations.

My common knowledge that terrorist lie through their teeth leads me to
believe that its most likely bull**** - especially when presented from a
left wing Newsgroup Canadian nutcase. Other then your apparent
gullibleness to any story of American war controversy, what makes you
think the source is correct? After all, you claim to be the type to dig
into the dirt of the story, so surly you must be able to do some
investigative reporting. As we say in the States "Chop chop".

Hmm... CNN, CBS, 60 Minutes, BBC are all left wing Canadian nutcase?
That's news to me. It's not that everybody else took every single
words he said on the face value, but it seems to me that you are
taking it as nothing but total fabrication. Maybe CNN, CBS..etc. are
into tabloid business? Or you're just so much smarter than all of the
journalists over there?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in594974.shtml
http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0.../i_ins.00.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3246361.stm
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/arar/
http://911review.org/Wiki/Arar,Maher.shtml

America the beautiful wrote:

The US media is also full of information - some correct and some just plain
wrong!! I still have the letter i e-mailed to the NY Times about some WRONG
information about Canadian soldiers going to Haiti.

I heard of the possibility of Canada sending some peace keepers.

Gawd, I hope not. I don't want to help pay the bill or have my fellow countrymen in
peril to clean up a created by Bush.


Then of course there was all that false information about the 9/11 terrorists
entering the USA through Canada.

Whoa! Hold on there. We never said the 9/11 terrorists entering the USA
through Canada, we said it was a *possibility* and we need tighter
controls at the border.

There were several reports on 9/12 detailing how the terrorists had snuck in from
Canada the night before the attacks.

Terrorists did try to enter Washington State to
dirty bomb the place, if you remember.

As I recall, it was just regular explosives. You must have high expectations of your
border security if you think that someone here had not dropped a dime on the guy as he
was headed to the border. All we would have had him for here was possession of
explosives and false documents. It became a more serious matter when he entered the
US, and you guys would have more interest in him than we did.

Maybe you should get a grip on suggestions that the USA is
indiscriminately killing innocent women and children. IF a terrorist
blows up a bus but says WE did, you are the type to publish it on Usenet
as fact.

He was probably referring to the "collateral damage" from bombing runs.

Canadian citizen, traveling from Switzerland to Canada via the USA, with a
valid Canadian passport. Arrested for no valid reason. Held in jail for 2
weeks. An deported to a country where torture is the norm.

America, The land of the Free?


JMC