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Old November 26th, 2007, 09:17 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe
tim \(not at home\)
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4 weeks ago, I booked a round trip LON to CPH with SAS for the second week
in Dec, using my LH M&M points.

This weekend, I get a call from LH telling me that the flight is cancelled
and I have to transfer onto an alternative and they give me a choice of the
last flight of the day (which potentially leaves me stranded in CPH with no
onward connection to my local apartment) or an early flight requiring me to
start at 5:30 in the morning (I know that some people do this happily, but I
don't).

I protest that there are other flights with availability, but I am told that
since I booked with LH I am only entitled to move on to a flight that LH
still have an allocation on.

I think that sucks. If I wanted to have to choose from the crappy flights I
wouldn't have booked 7 weeks ahead. My view is that it is SAS who have
cancelled the flight, so it is SAS that should rebook me from their
allocation and not bounce the problem back to LH.

Guess which airline will not be getting any more of my business whilst I am
working here?

tim


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Old November 26th, 2007, 10:00 PM posted to rec.travel.air, rec.travel.europe
PeterL
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Default Flight Change Nonsense

On Nov 26, 1:17 pm, "tim \(not at home\)"
wrote:
4 weeks ago, I booked a round trip LON to CPH with SAS for the second week
in Dec, using my LH M&M points.

This weekend, I get a call from LH telling me that the flight is cancelled
and I have to transfer onto an alternative and they give me a choice of the
last flight of the day (which potentially leaves me stranded in CPH with no
onward connection to my local apartment) or an early flight requiring me to
start at 5:30 in the morning (I know that some people do this happily, but I
don't).

I protest that there are other flights with availability, but I am told that
since I booked with LH I am only entitled to move on to a flight that LH
still have an allocation on.

I think that sucks. If I wanted to have to choose from the crappy flights I
wouldn't have booked 7 weeks ahead. My view is that it is SAS who have
cancelled the flight, so it is SAS that should rebook me from their
allocation and not bounce the problem back to LH.

Guess which airline will not be getting any more of my business whilst I am
working here?

tim



Using points, you get crappy treatments. That's a given.
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Old November 26th, 2007, 10:10 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe
Markku Grönroos
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Default Flight Change Nonsense


"tim (not at home)" kirjoitti
...
4 weeks ago, I booked a round trip LON to CPH with SAS for the second week
in Dec, using my LH M&M points.

This weekend, I get a call from LH telling me that the flight is cancelled
and I have to transfer onto an alternative and they give me a choice of
the last flight of the day (which potentially leaves me stranded in CPH
with no onward connection to my local apartment) or an early flight
requiring me to start at 5:30 in the morning (I know that some people do
this happily, but I don't).

I protest that there are other flights with availability, but I am told
that since I booked with LH I am only entitled to move on to a flight that
LH still have an allocation on.

I think that sucks. If I wanted to have to choose from the crappy flights
I wouldn't have booked 7 weeks ahead. My view is that it is SAS who have
cancelled the flight, so it is SAS that should rebook me from their
allocation and not bounce the problem back to LH.

Guess which airline will not be getting any more of my business whilst I
am working here?

I assume you have paid far too little for free rerouting. If that's what you
want, buy a full price IATA ticket.

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Old November 27th, 2007, 12:06 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe
John[_24_]
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Default Flight Change Nonsense


"tim (not at home)" wrote in message
...
4 weeks ago, I booked a round trip LON to CPH with SAS for the second week
in Dec, using my LH M&M points.

This weekend, I get a call from LH telling me that the flight is cancelled
and I have to transfer onto an alternative and they give me a choice of
the last flight of the day (which potentially leaves me stranded in CPH
with no onward connection to my local apartment) or an early flight
requiring me to start at 5:30 in the morning (I know that some people do
this happily, but I don't).

I protest that there are other flights with availability, but I am told
that since I booked with LH I am only entitled to move on to a flight that
LH still have an allocation on.

I think that sucks. If I wanted to have to choose from the crappy flights
I wouldn't have booked 7 weeks ahead. My view is that it is SAS who have
cancelled the flight, so it is SAS that should rebook me from their
allocation and not bounce the problem back to LH.

Guess which airline will not be getting any more of my business whilst I
am working here?

tim


I'm 50 years old and never flown anywhere and I'm not bothered if I ever do
(started to "go abroad" for holidays 17 years ago but prefer the convenience
of driving into europe - you get to bring back an entire bootful of booze
)) but it always rankles me that people who fly often get the chance (via
points, frequent-flyer miles or whatever) to fly more, so that people who
have to fly a lot for business (paid for by the company) then get the
"perks" or "bonus" of flying privately for pleasure.

It seems to me that it should be people who can't otherwise afford to fly
anywhere who should get the breaks as it could well be a "once in a
lifetime" experience for them.

John


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Old November 27th, 2007, 05:48 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe
Donald Newcomb
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"tim (not at home)" wrote in message
...
4 weeks ago, I booked a round trip LON to CPH with SAS for the second week
in Dec, using my LH M&M points.

This weekend, I get a call from LH telling me that the flight is cancelled
and I have to transfer onto an alternative


When one considers the massive unfunded liability represented by frequent
flyer programs, I consider it just amazing that anyone actually ever gets to
fly anywhere using points. The airlines will have to find some way to weasel
out of honoring their promises to their frequent flyer club members. If
everyone tried to use those points the airlines would all go TU overnight.


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Old November 27th, 2007, 05:53 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe
Qanset
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Craig Welch wrote:
"tim \(not at home\)" said:

Guess which airline will not be getting any more of my business whilst I am
working here?


Guess which airline could care less?

Craig Welch Aviation
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Old November 27th, 2007, 05:55 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe
Qanset
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Craig Welch wrote:
"John" said:

I'm 50 years old and never flown anywhere and I'm not bothered if I ever do
(started to "go abroad" for holidays 17 years ago but prefer the convenience
of driving into europe - you get to bring back an entire bootful of booze
)) but it always rankles me that people who fly often get the chance (via
points, frequent-flyer miles or whatever) to fly more, so that people who
have to fly a lot for business (paid for by the company) then get the
"perks" or "bonus" of flying privately for pleasure.

It seems to me that it should be people who can't otherwise afford to fly
anywhere who should get the breaks as it could well be a "once in a
lifetime" experience for them.


And in this ideal socialist paradise of yours, who would pay for
such largesse?


More of your self righteous, sugar coated criticism???
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Old November 27th, 2007, 05:57 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe
mrtravel[_3_]
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Craig Welch wrote:
"John" said:


I'm 50 years old and never flown anywhere and I'm not bothered if I ever do
(started to "go abroad" for holidays 17 years ago but prefer the convenience
of driving into europe - you get to bring back an entire bootful of booze
)) but it always rankles me that people who fly often get the chance (via
points, frequent-flyer miles or whatever) to fly more, so that people who
have to fly a lot for business (paid for by the company) then get the
"perks" or "bonus" of flying privately for pleasure.

It seems to me that it should be people who can't otherwise afford to fly
anywhere who should get the breaks as it could well be a "once in a
lifetime" experience for them.



And in this ideal socialist paradise of yours, who would pay for
such largesse?


The frequent flyers, of course.
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Old November 27th, 2007, 06:55 AM posted to rec.travel.air, rec.travel.europe
george
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On Nov 26, 10:17 pm, "tim \(not at home\)"
wrote:
4 weeks ago, I booked a round trip LON to CPH with SAS for the second week
in Dec, using my LH M&M points.

This weekend, I get a call from LH telling me that the flight is cancelled
and I have to transfer onto an alternative and they give me a choice of the
last flight of the day (which potentially leaves me stranded in CPH with no
onward connection to my local apartment) or an early flight requiring me to
start at 5:30 in the morning (I know that some people do this happily, but I
don't).

I protest that there are other flights with availability, but I am told that
since I booked with LH I am only entitled to move on to a flight that LH
still have an allocation on.

I think that sucks. If I wanted to have to choose from the crappy flights I
wouldn't have booked 7 weeks ahead. My view is that it is SAS who have
cancelled the flight, so it is SAS that should rebook me from their
allocation and not bounce the problem back to LH.

Guess which airline will not be getting any more of my business whilst I am
working here?

tim


That's what you get when you use a free frequent flyer ticket, you
think that they would want to treat a good customer well, but it's all
about money, and you didn't pay any for that flight.

I quit using any of my frequent flyer miles because of an incident
with BA in Chicago years ago. Because of a snow storm I was told that
I would have to wait at the earliest 5 days before leaving. As I had
to be back at work, I talked to an agent on their 800 number who
recognized my last name and mentioned that he knew my daughter and had
lived down the street from us years before. Therefore, I probably got
better service, and managed to catch a BA flight to London from
Houston that would connect with my on-going flight home from there,
the necessary flight from Las Vegas to Houston at my expense, and
getting a last minute ticket isn't cheap. I just felt lucky to get
home on time, and after realizing how horribly they treat you on a
free ticket, I than just gave my mileage to the rest of the family to
use if they wanted it. The actual cost of such a long delay and
making alternative travel arrangements can be many times the value of
the ticket if you had purchased it in the first place. I haven't
flown BA since!!!!!

George
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Old November 27th, 2007, 07:27 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe
Doesn't Frequently Mop
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On the particular moment of Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:06:41 -0000 in
relation to Mary's disappointingly immaculate rumpy pumpy, "John"
put forth:

I'm 50 years old and never flown anywhere and I'm not bothered if I ever do
(started to "go abroad" for holidays 17 years ago but prefer the convenience
of driving into europe - you get to bring back an entire bootful of booze
)) but it always rankles me that people who fly often get the chance (via
points, frequent-flyer miles or whatever) to fly more, so that people who
have to fly a lot for business (paid for by the company) then get the
"perks" or "bonus" of flying privately for pleasure.


As an ex-consultant who did an awful lot of travel, I can tell you it
can really suck, and getting a few frequent flyer points would be a
tiny compensation. Once you have those points, you then of course need
to use them, and the airline isn't interested in making it a
comfortable experience.
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