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Old March 3rd, 2008, 03:46 PM posted to comp.infosystems.gis,dc.general,rec.photo.digital,rec.travel.usa-canada
Charles Packer
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Default Update on DC aerial image censorship

Vice President Cheney has "had his house removed from
Google Earth." Thus said Jon Stewart on "The Daily Show,"
according to my wife. So I invoked Google Earth and
lo, all of the grounds of the Naval Observatory -- where
his house is -- is displayed at a much lower resolution
by means of much larger pixels; at least 10X larger,
my eyeballs tell me.

But that's not all. In another surprise, the White House
and Capitol are now rendered at full resolution, unlike
in 2004, the last time I checked (and posted here about
it). At that time, they were either pixelated or had
strange blank colored rectangles overlying parts of
their roofs.

But if you want to see Cheney's lawn at full resolution,
just use MapQuest in aerial image mode. All three of the
DC locations are at full resolution. However -- this is
really odd -- the Treasury building (next door to the White
House) has been obliterated by a seemingly misplaced image
which is a copy of one immediately to the southwest.

--
Charles Packer
http://cpacker.org/whatnews
mailboxATcpacker.org
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Old March 3rd, 2008, 05:33 PM posted to comp.infosystems.gis,dc.general,rec.photo.digital,rec.travel.usa-canada
Rich[_5_]
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On Mar 3, 10:46 am, Charles Packer wrote:
Vice President Cheney has "had his house removed from
Google Earth." Thus said Jon Stewart on "The Daily Show,"
according to my wife. So I invoked Google Earth and
lo, all of the grounds of the Naval Observatory -- where
his house is -- is displayed at a much lower resolution
by means of much larger pixels; at least 10X larger,
my eyeballs tell me.

But that's not all. In another surprise, the White House
and Capitol are now rendered at full resolution, unlike
in 2004, the last time I checked (and posted here about
it). At that time, they were either pixelated or had
strange blank colored rectangles overlying parts of
their roofs.

But if you want to see Cheney's lawn at full resolution,
just use MapQuest in aerial image mode. All three of the
DC locations are at full resolution. However -- this is
really odd -- the Treasury building (next door to the White
House) has been obliterated by a seemingly misplaced image
which is a copy of one immediately to the southwest.

--
Charles Packerhttp://cpacker.org/whatnews
mailboxATcpacker.org


Where you this agitated when Google worked with the CHINKS to put
dissidents in JAIL who used their site?
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Old March 3rd, 2008, 05:42 PM posted to comp.infosystems.gis,dc.general,rec.photo.digital,rec.travel.usa-canada
Jufi
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Default Update on DC aerial image censorship


"Charles Packer" wrote in message
...

But that's not all. In another surprise, the White House
and Capitol are now rendered at full resolution, unlike
in 2004, the last time I checked (and posted here about
it). At that time, they were either pixelated or had
strange blank colored rectangles overlying parts of
their roofs.


What I thought was surprising was that anyone offering those aerial photo
galleries would either feel the need to, or be forced to gray-out the White
House, Capitol, or anything else. Are those locations a secret? Is there
anyone the planet who doesn't know where they are? I honestly don't care,
but I find things like this just really, really strange.

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Old March 3rd, 2008, 06:09 PM posted to comp.infosystems.gis,dc.general,rec.photo.digital,rec.travel.usa-canada
Russell Patterson
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On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 12:42:16 -0500, "Jufi" wrote:


"Charles Packer" wrote in message
...

But that's not all. In another surprise, the White House
and Capitol are now rendered at full resolution, unlike
in 2004, the last time I checked (and posted here about
it). At that time, they were either pixelated or had
strange blank colored rectangles overlying parts of
their roofs.


What I thought was surprising was that anyone offering those aerial photo
galleries would either feel the need to, or be forced to gray-out the White
House, Capitol, or anything else. Are those locations a secret? Is there
anyone the planet who doesn't know where they are? I honestly don't care,
but I find things like this just really, really strange.


Yet something like the following location is not changed at all.
Which one is more dangerous to US interests?
47°33'25.24"N, 122°38'26.49"W
(Copy and paste it to the search window)
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Old March 3rd, 2008, 08:21 PM posted to comp.infosystems.gis,dc.general,rec.photo.digital,rec.travel.usa-canada
Spamm Trappe
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Default Update on DC aerial image censorship

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 13:09:01 -0500, Russell Patterson wrote:
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 12:42:16 -0500, "Jufi" wrote:


"Charles Packer" wrote in message
...

But that's not all. In another surprise, the White House
and Capitol are now rendered at full resolution, unlike
in 2004, the last time I checked (and posted here about
it). At that time, they were either pixelated or had
strange blank colored rectangles overlying parts of
their roofs.


What I thought was surprising was that anyone offering those aerial photo
galleries would either feel the need to, or be forced to gray-out the White
House, Capitol, or anything else. Are those locations a secret? Is there
anyone the planet who doesn't know where they are? I honestly don't care,
but I find things like this just really, really strange.


Yet something like the following location is not changed at all.
Which one is more dangerous to US interests?
47?33'25.24"N, 122?38'26.49"W
(Copy and paste it to the search window)


??? "... dangerous to US interests" ???

ITYM: 47 38' 37"N , 122 7' 43"W

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Old March 3rd, 2008, 08:44 PM posted to comp.infosystems.gis,dc.general,rec.photo.digital,rec.travel.usa-canada
Alan S[_1_]
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On 3 Mar 2008 20:21:06 GMT, Spamm Trappe
wrote:

Yet something like the following location is not changed at all.
Which one is more dangerous to US interests?
47?33'25.24"N, 122?38'26.49"W
(Copy and paste it to the search window)


??? "... dangerous to US interests" ???

ITYM: 47 38' 37"N , 122 7' 43"W


As a non-USAian I worked out the Navy Yard, but what's the
importance of that building? Is it Control Headquarters
where Max is now the Chief?


Cheers, Alan, Australia
--
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Slovenia
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Old March 3rd, 2008, 08:57 PM posted to comp.infosystems.gis,dc.general,rec.photo.digital,rec.travel.usa-canada
C J Campbell[_2_]
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Default Update on DC aerial image censorship

On 2008-03-03 09:42:16 -0800, "Jufi" said:


"Charles Packer" wrote in message
...


But

that's not all. In another surprise, the White House
and Capitol are now rendered at full resolution, unlike
in 2004, the last time I checked (and posted here about
it). At that time, they were either pixelated or had
strange blank colored rectangles overlying parts of
their roofs.


What I thought was surprising was that anyone offering those aerial
photo galleries would either feel the need to, or be forced to gray-out
the White House, Capitol, or anything else. Are those locations a
secret? Is there anyone the planet who doesn't know where they are? I
honestly don't care, but I find things like this just really, really
strange.


Ostensibly it is to keep you from seeing certain security measures. The
White House image now looks sharp, but it has been 'cleaned' by the
Secret Service. Google has been known to cooperate with some other
governments in removing certain objects from Google Maps.

I doubt things will change under a new administration. What the Secret
Service says, goes, no matter how idiotic a President might think it
is. FDR used to go out of his way to antagonize his agents, making them
run after his wheelchair, and JFK made a point of never carrying cash,
mooching off his agents, but that is about as much as a President is
allowed to protest. Probably by the time the Secret Service is done
briefing a new President on all the people who want to kill him (or
her, if it is Hillary) the poor individual is probably as paranoid as
they come.

Not a job a normal person would want, for sure.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

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Old March 3rd, 2008, 09:08 PM posted to comp.infosystems.gis,dc.general,rec.photo.digital,rec.travel.usa-canada
Bert Hyman
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Default Update on DC aerial image censorship

(Charles Packer) wrote in
:

Vice President Cheney has "had his house removed from
Google Earth." Thus said Jon Stewart on "The Daily Show,"
according to my wife. So I invoked Google Earth and
lo, all of the grounds of the Naval Observatory -- where
his house is -- is displayed at a much lower resolution
by means of much larger pixels; at least 10X larger,
my eyeballs tell me.


The Vice President's residence and the area along the mall around the
Capitol and the White House are in "Prohibited Area P-56"; it's
surprising that there are any aerial photos available.

http://www.faa.gov/news/aviation_new...Oct05Issue.pdf

Prohibited Area 56 (P-56)

P-56A & B are areas surrounding the White House and the vice
president’s residence. The only aircraft that are allowed to fly
within these prohibited areas are specially authorized flights that
are in direct support of the U.S. Secret Service, the Office of the
President, or one of several government agencies with missions that
require air support within P-56. These prohibited areas have been in
effect for about 50 years.
P-56A covers approximately the area west of the Lincoln Memorial (Rock
Creek Park) to east of the Capitol (Stanton Square) and between
Independence Ave. and K Street up to 18,000 feet. P-56B covers a small
circle of about 1 nautical mile (about 1.2 statute miles) surrounding
the Naval Observatory on Massachusetts Ave. up to 18,000 feet.

--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN |
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Old March 3rd, 2008, 09:50 PM posted to comp.infosystems.gis,dc.general,rec.photo.digital,rec.travel.usa-canada
Charles
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Default Update on DC aerial image censorship

On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 07:46:12 -0800 (PST), Charles Packer
wrote:

Vice President Cheney has "had his house removed from
Google Earth." Thus said Jon Stewart on "The Daily Show,"
according to my wife. So I invoked Google Earth and
lo, all of the grounds of the Naval Observatory -- where
his house is -- is displayed at a much lower resolution
by means of much larger pixels; at least 10X larger,
my eyeballs tell me.

But that's not all. In another surprise, the White House
and Capitol are now rendered at full resolution, unlike
in 2004, the last time I checked (and posted here about
it). At that time, they were either pixelated or had
strange blank colored rectangles overlying parts of
their roofs.

But if you want to see Cheney's lawn at full resolution,
just use MapQuest in aerial image mode. All three of the
DC locations are at full resolution. However -- this is
really odd -- the Treasury building (next door to the White
House) has been obliterated by a seemingly misplaced image
which is a copy of one immediately to the southwest.



But what's important, is Barbara Streisand's House viewable?
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Old March 3rd, 2008, 09:51 PM posted to comp.infosystems.gis,dc.general,rec.photo.digital,rec.travel.usa-canada
[email protected]
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Default Update on DC aerial image censorship

Are those locations a secret?

They're trying to prevent close inspection of security equipment on
the building roofs, guard locations, and so forth.

[they] are in "Prohibited Area P-56"; it's
surprising that there are any aerial photos available.


It's even more surprising to me that Google Maps has excellent views
of the buildings and runways at Area 51, which is one of the highest-
security areas in the country. In fact the U.S. government will barely
acknowledge that it even exists. You can find it by just typing "area
51" into the Google Maps search box.


 




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